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7/30/2024 11:52pm

Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. 

https://pademelon.cc/

Not cheap (understatement) however. 800 $AUD for just the damper

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Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. https://pademelon.cc/Not...

Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. 

https://pademelon.cc/

Not cheap (understatement) however. 800 $AUD for just the damper

Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to the bumblers as well?

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I'd say it should be very good at preventing jack knifing. 

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7/31/2024 1:26am
I recall from a recent podcast with the head guy (I can’t remember his name) they were doubling down on focusing on wheels since that was...

I recall from a recent podcast with the head guy (I can’t remember his name) they were doubling down on focusing on wheels since that was their money maker. So maybe they are sold out and aren’t in a hurry to make more frames

I’ve been waiting for their updated bars they showed at sea otter. Hope they’re still going to release them. 

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7/31/2024 1:38am
Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. https://pademelon.cc/Not...

Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. 

https://pademelon.cc/

Not cheap (understatement) however. 800 $AUD for just the damper

29 wrote:
Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to...

Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to the bumblers as well?

As a resident bumbler I'm willing to guinea pig it for you.  Will let you know once I have it and have tried it out but, sadly, my guess is that like 90%+ of all other stuff I buy, it will not change my riding experience in a meaningful way.  

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7/31/2024 2:19am
Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. https://pademelon.cc/Not...

Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. 

https://pademelon.cc/

Not cheap (understatement) however. 800 $AUD for just the damper

29 wrote:
Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to...

Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to the bumblers as well?

All the pros ...

 

You remember the anti vibration stickers...

 

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7/31/2024 5:11am
Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. https://pademelon.cc/Not...

Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. 

https://pademelon.cc/

Not cheap (understatement) however. 800 $AUD for just the damper

29 wrote:
Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to...

Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to the bumblers as well?

hairyyy wrote:

All the pros ...

 

You remember the anti vibration stickers...

 

And holographic bracelets to improve your chakra...

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7/31/2024 5:35am
Primoz wrote:

I'd say it should be very good at preventing jack knifing. 

Who is jack going to knife?

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29 wrote:
Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to...

Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to the bumblers as well?

hairyyy wrote:

All the pros ...

 

You remember the anti vibration stickers...

 

Mugen wrote:

And holographic bracelets to improve your chakra...

And those necklaces and tiny weights to "balance" the valve stem...

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7/31/2024 7:13am
Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. https://pademelon.cc/Not...

Pademelon steering dampers are officially for sale. These are the dampers all of the Aussies and many other pro's have been running this season. 

https://pademelon.cc/

Not cheap (understatement) however. 800 $AUD for just the damper

29 wrote:
Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to...

Would love to see some reviews from the usual sites. All the pros wouldn’t run it if it didn’t do anything, but is it beneficial to the bumblers as well?

hairyyy wrote:

All the pros ...

 

You remember the anti vibration stickers...

 

I meant all the Aussie pros using dampers, there are a couple other prototypes on the world circuit that are made by other companies. 

I've tested one, it definitely does what it says on the tin. Creates resistance to turn the bars and 0 resistance when centering the bars, to give a feeling of stability and to resist unwanted deflection of rocks etc. 

No wether I'd pay $800+ for it? Idk. Not at this stage, but my total bike value is probably $3k, so I'm not exactly the target market.  

 

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7/31/2024 7:40am Edited Date/Time 7/31/2024 7:42am
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Convince Adidas to license the OG 5.10 Stealth rubber to Maxxis; there's a rock-climbing technique called "smearing" that it was particularly good at (as long as...

Convince Adidas to license the OG 5.10 Stealth rubber to Maxxis; there's a rock-climbing technique called "smearing" that it was particularly good at (as long as the rock wasn't too hot).

/derail

What is old is new again... Someone will have better luck with the search engines finding them but decades ago Intense (I think) did actually do this. ITS (Intense Tire Systems) existed - and also had a custom version of Five.Ten shoes, pre-Adidas - and they tried making some tires out of the shoe rubber. A few pro riders tested them but then nothing came of it to the mortals

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7/31/2024 8:25am
dolface wrote:
Convince Adidas to license the OG 5.10 Stealth rubber to Maxxis; there's a rock-climbing technique called "smearing" that it was particularly good at (as long as...

Convince Adidas to license the OG 5.10 Stealth rubber to Maxxis; there's a rock-climbing technique called "smearing" that it was particularly good at (as long as the rock wasn't too hot).

/derail

Simcik wrote:
What is old is new again... Someone will have better luck with the search engines finding them but decades ago Intense (I think) did actually do...

What is old is new again... Someone will have better luck with the search engines finding them but decades ago Intense (I think) did actually do this. ITS (Intense Tire Systems) existed - and also had a custom version of Five.Ten shoes, pre-Adidas - and they tried making some tires out of the shoe rubber. A few pro riders tested them but then nothing came of it to the mortals

The intense dh wasnt the best race tire. It weighed a ton and had super burley casings. It was amazing for super steep and/or loose dirt. You could run them with sub 20psi and still push in corners and the slow rebound rubber worked really well on rock slabs. Nothing like them. Game changer for that type of riding. Until they changed tire manufacturer and all the side knobs started ripping off. They were done shortly after that

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7/31/2024 2:03pm
sspomer wrote:

inside line with dustin adams/weareone from whistler last year mentions no more bikes

https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/we-are-one-inside-line-mountain-bike-…

I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but some shop guys (WAO dealer) was saying something about having to re-tool the molds because they were having issues. I know a ton of people with Arrivals and haven't heard of anyone having issues with durability, but who knows. 

If they already have molds, I think they should just make a super limited run of frames (Arrival and DH) each year and keep them super exclusive. Be like, the Koenigsegg of bikes. Keep the build kits top end and charge a ton. I'm pretty sure they'd still sell out each year. 

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7/31/2024 4:19pm
jgaube wrote:

Seems like the next new bike has to be the Sentinel…. I’d potentially be interested in one if so.

Hope so! IMO the current one isnt great, have to ride it hard and on steep stuff, otherwise its very unbalanced, +1deg headset made those bikes much better.
Hopefully they also fix the frame/bolts QC Knocking things they are

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7/31/2024 4:24pm
jgaube wrote:

Seems like the next new bike has to be the Sentinel…. I’d potentially be interested in one if so.

Hope so! IMO the current one isnt great, have to ride it hard and on steep stuff, otherwise its very unbalanced, +1deg headset made those bikes...

Hope so! IMO the current one isnt great, have to ride it hard and on steep stuff, otherwise its very unbalanced, +1deg headset made those bikes much better.
Hopefully they also fix the frame/bolts QC Knocking things they are

Agreed, I had one with a +1 headset as well.  Shock / suspension never felt as dialed as my Spire and the STA was noticeably more slack even though numbers look close.  A new one with a steeper STA and a 64-64.5 ish HTA could be great.  

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7/31/2024 7:40pm
jgaube wrote:

Seems like the next new bike has to be the Sentinel…. I’d potentially be interested in one if so.

Maybe making the Scout a mullet? I’d love a 130/150 mullet bike from Transition. Agree on the angle sets. I’ve had a +1 Works in my Patrol from the moment I built it up…and it’s my park bike. (although it’s always been overforked 20mm)

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7/31/2024 8:01pm

Serious bummer, WAO was going to be my next frame.....

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They’ve probably just come to the end of the useable life of their molds (i guess they bought/made cheaper low volume ones) and now need to get new ones… maybe also taking the opportunity to do some updates

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7/31/2024 11:58pm
jgaube wrote:

Seems like the next new bike has to be the Sentinel…. I’d potentially be interested in one if so.

Hope so! IMO the current one isnt great, have to ride it hard and on steep stuff, otherwise its very unbalanced, +1deg headset made those bikes...

Hope so! IMO the current one isnt great, have to ride it hard and on steep stuff, otherwise its very unbalanced, +1deg headset made those bikes much better.
Hopefully they also fix the frame/bolts QC Knocking things they are

Definitely hope they fix their QC, had a absolute lemon of a front triangle on  a 2022 Scout alloy I purchased. Metal everywhere in the seat tube and the front end would go through headsets every 2 months. Only headset that would last was a CK one. Their bikes look sick though.

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8/1/2024 12:53am Edited Date/Time 8/1/2024 6:32am

Giant released the inhouse created Crest fork a few years ago (using 34mm stanchions, 130mm travel) - for example, Fathom trail hardtails and Trances were equipped with it.

It seems they created a big brother as well with an apparently longer travel, maybe stachions are 35 or 36mm (I'm only guessing) with a more robust design for the lowers:

new Crest fork

For reference/comparison, this is the old trail fork design:

old crest

Source: from Pinkbike's gallery to article 'Spotted: A Wireless Fox Electronic Dropper Post' ( https://www.pinkbike.com/news/spotted-a-wireless-fox-electronic-dropper… ).

 

Edit: OMG, kind of false positive, the 1st photo was taken from a 24" bike for kids... 🙃

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8/1/2024 5:33am
zscs wrote:
Giant released the inhouse created Crest fork a few years ago (using 34mm stanchions, 130mm travel) - for example, Fathom trail hardtails and Trances were equipped...

Giant released the inhouse created Crest fork a few years ago (using 34mm stanchions, 130mm travel) - for example, Fathom trail hardtails and Trances were equipped with it.

It seems they created a big brother as well with an apparently longer travel, maybe stachions are 35 or 36mm (I'm only guessing) with a more robust design for the lowers:

new Crest fork

For reference/comparison, this is the old trail fork design:

old crest

Source: from Pinkbike's gallery to article 'Spotted: A Wireless Fox Electronic Dropper Post' ( https://www.pinkbike.com/news/spotted-a-wireless-fox-electronic-dropper… ).

 

Edit: OMG, kind of false positive, the 1st photo was taken from a 24" bike for kids... 🙃

I think that's more of a little brother. That first picture is one of the full-sus kids' bikes that Giant announced earlier this year, with a version of the Crest fork tuned for smaller riders. 

https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/giant-launches-faith-youth-mountain-bikes-and-crest-lite-youth-specific-suspension

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8/1/2024 6:43am

Frameworks Enduro bikes available for pre-order in mid-August per an email they sent out today. 

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Maybe making the Scout a mullet? I’d love a 130/150 mullet bike from Transition. Agree on the angle sets. I’ve had a +1 Works in my...

Maybe making the Scout a mullet? I’d love a 130/150 mullet bike from Transition. Agree on the angle sets. I’ve had a +1 Works in my Patrol from the moment I built it up…and it’s my park bike. (although it’s always been overforked 20mm)

I think a mullet Scout is pretty much guaranteed, the only question is when.

Given the state of the market, I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to consolidate their lineup by merging the Scout and the Sentinel. One frame for mullet or 29 with some geo adjustments would be pretty cool. I’d seriously consider opening up my wallet if they did.

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8/1/2024 8:19am

Had a feeling the transition post was just going to be fun video edit. 

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8/1/2024 8:25am

Anyone have news of when the 13-speed GRX might drop?

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Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.

If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new mech and cassette with existing transmission chain and crank, and any AXS shifter of your choice?

https://singletrackworld.com/gritcx/2024/08/sram-goes-1x13-sram-red-xpl…

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8/1/2024 8:58am
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Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new...

Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.

If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new mech and cassette with existing transmission chain and crank, and any AXS shifter of your choice?

https://singletrackworld.com/gritcx/2024/08/sram-goes-1x13-sram-red-xpl…

10-46? On my current gravel I have E*13's 9-46 (11 speed) and I need more range. With a 38t chainring its just barely low enough for mtb climbs, but when I'm on the road I top out in that 9t too often. I'm considering going back to a front derailleur for more range, plus they are more efficient. 

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