do you have a link to a sub $1k dirt jumper you're referring to? i don't doubt you, I just want to know which bike

well, these are businesses in it to make money not to break even. i have no idea about quotas and manufacturers agreements. maybe it's more complicated than what you're suggesting? and going used is always going to be cheaper, but there's your time, tools, knowledge to think about too. that took you years to learn and sort out. buying a complete, off the shelf, is an easy way in for someone who hasn't been learning bb standards and axle sizes for the last two decades LOL

ha, we both wonder the same thing : )

i often wonder the same thing. the shonky frame is $575. by the time you get everything together w/ the fork, the $1400 price makes sense. a transition PBJ is $375 for the frame, but the bike w/ similar build (level brake and Pike DJ fork instead) is $1600, so it's definitely a weird pricing landscape in this market.

there are cheaper rigid bikes out there (haro and verde have $600 rigid bikes). this frame is butted cromo, some cheaper ones might just be straight gauge/tubular steel (not my area of expertise)? the $600 rigids have cheaper tires and wheels, too. this shonky can run a derailleur so the rear end and dropouts are a little more complicated than an uber-cheap bike.

i'd have to think production volume of bikes like this impacts price. can't imagine they're making too many of them, so while parts don't seem exciting, the effort to get the complete bike made probably has a bit of a premium compared to a $1000 full suspension bike.

awesome! we just got one in for testing and we're stoked to check it out! the only real weak link out of the box seems to be hub engagement.

i was tempted for the SEO factor HAHAHA

the motor rattle is still there, but it didn't seem as noticeable on this bike/motor. that said, if you choose to listen for it, you're going to hear it.