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Added a comment about product review Kona Shonky Complete Build for Complete Fun 11/24/2020 11:45 AM
sspomer

do you have a link to a sub $1k dirt jumper you're referring to? i don't doubt you, I just want to know which bike

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Added a comment about product review Kona Shonky Complete Build for Complete Fun 11/24/2020 11:40 AM
sspomer

well, these are businesses in it to make money not to break even. i have no idea about quotas and manufacturers agreements. maybe it's more complicated than what you're suggesting? and going used is always going to be cheaper, but there's your time, tools, knowledge to think about too. that took you years to learn and sort out. buying a complete, off the shelf, is an easy way in for someone who hasn't been learning bb standards and axle sizes for the last two decades LOL

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Added a comment about product review Kona Shonky Complete Build for Complete Fun 11/24/2020 11:13 AM
sspomer

ha, we both wonder the same thing : )

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Liked a comment on the item Kona Shonky Complete Build for Complete Fun 11/24/2020 11:13 AM

I wonder the same sometimes, but this bike does have some pricey details. Let's look at the frame: sliding thru-axle dropouts, tapered head tube, and butted tubing. Those items are expensive. From Paragon Machine Works the two dropouts, plus inserts, and an axle are $150 alone.

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Added a comment about product review Kona Shonky Complete Build for Complete Fun 11/24/2020 11:09 AM
sspomer

i often wonder the same thing. the shonky frame is $575. by the time you get everything together w/ the fork, the $1400 price makes sense. a transition PBJ is $375 for the frame, but the bike w/ similar build (level brake and Pike DJ fork instead) is $1600, so it's definitely a weird pricing landscape in this market.

there are cheaper rigid bikes out there (haro and verde have $600 rigid bikes). this frame is butted cromo, some cheaper ones might just be straight gauge/tubular steel (not my area of expertise)? the $600 rigids have cheaper tires and wheels, too. this shonky can run a derailleur so the rear end and dropouts are a little more complicated than an uber-cheap bike.

i'd have to think production volume of bikes like this impacts price. can't imagine they're making too many of them, so while parts don't seem exciting, the effort to get the complete bike made probably has a bit of a premium compared to a $1000 full suspension bike.

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Added a comment about product review Marin Trail Bomber 11/24/2020 10:47 AM
sspomer

awesome! we just got one in for testing and we're stoked to check it out! the only real weak link out of the box seems to be hub engagement.

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Liked a comment on the item Kona Shonky Complete Build for Complete Fun 11/24/2020 8:33 AM

Thank you for not calling it a pump track bike.

Added reply in a thread Share Your Local Trail Advocacy Group 11/23/2020 7:45 AM

thanks so much, everyone! i'll get the first post updated w/ all the additions that came in over the weekend.

Added a new video Bex Baraona and Chloe Taylor in the Slop! Vital RAW 11/23/2020 7:34 AM

Shot in the gloomy, wet Peak District in gale-force winds and rain. Bex on the Ibis, Chloe on the Privateer. The two EWS racers basically missed the whole season due to catching COVID and, as a result have taken a dip in fitness (hence not being able to hold on in some of those compressions :) They joked that they really needed to get back into the gym and are dreading 12-minute janky stages again, LOL! #MTB #womenwhoshred #mountainbike

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Started new thread Share Your Local Trail Advocacy Group 11/20/2020 7:53 AM

I'm proud that the Vital MTB audience is full of engaged, dedicated, and experienced mountain bikers. There is also a blossoming community of new riders joining our sport and getting more serious about riding, which means trails get more used. ... more »

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Added a comment about product review The Santa Cruz Bullit is Back and Still Ready to Send...With a Motor 11/17/2020 1:33 PM
sspomer

the motor rattle is still there, but it didn't seem as noticeable on this bike/motor. that said, if you choose to listen for it, you're going to hear it.

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Liked a comment on the item The Santa Cruz Bullit is Back and Still Ready to Send...With a Motor 11/17/2020 1:30 PM

That To Do List though....

Liked a comment on the item The Santa Cruz Bullit is Back and Still Ready to Send...With a Motor 11/17/2020 1:30 PM

Hey Griz! We need an E-Bike Whip Off contest. Make it happen!

Liked a comment on the item Tikbalang MK2 Downhill Enduro 11/15/2020 1:35 PM

Thanks. It looks even better in person according to some mates.


Only brushed a few times while sprinting otherwise it's like they're not there

Liked a comment on the item Tikbalang MK2 Downhill Enduro 11/15/2020 1:35 PM

I too am a downduro kind of guy. I have made an old devinci wilson into a downduro. I call it Frankenvinci Wilsonstein.
Dropper post, 11-36 cassette, 28t chainring. Made it into a 27.5f 26r mullet. I'm 5'5" so 26 inch wheels work well for me. No way to attach a bottle thoughsad

Liked a comment on the item Tikbalang MK2 Downhill Enduro 11/15/2020 1:35 PM

Titanium is the best looking frame material, change my mind.

@_Lan You're not worried about your fabricator selling your design on aliexpress?

Liked a bike check The DeLorean - 2021 Commencal Mullet 11/13/2020 11:01 AM
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Liked a comment on the item Mmm, What's Cooking?! It's a Fresh Batch of Vital MTB Gear Club 11/13/2020 9:05 AM

Tremendous or fake news, I'm not conceding either way.