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I'll be dead before new saint drops.

I could give this a go, would back to back race sim laps be enough to provide accurate results? At least in a way that it is consistently one way or the other?

DHF sucks. Always wash out unless you really commit to the lean and never ride berms

The average rider does care about efficiency, most just don't know how to articulate it. They talk about the bike feeling slow, or that they're working really hard on climbs, and making improvements to how efficient the bike is (mostly by going to faster rolling, lighter weight tires since most are on traditional drivetrains) makes a huge difference to their ride experience. Can't forget the average rider isn't smashing wheels and ripping off derailleurs all the time, and shouldn't build their bikes up like a lot of us do.

Bike industry surprises everyone with new tech. Forum discusses its innovative nature and implications. Members start complaining about the relevance. Rinse and repeat.

that’s a YOU problem then

Amazing pics, thanks! I just miss the captions, somehow it's more fun with captions...

No, that’s if you are coming from a Shimano motor.

B D- can’t charge 60$ for stamped rotors when they’re not better than anything else laser cut and cheaper

Just accidentally drop geo numbers for a starter 🤷🏻‍♂️

Someone really deep throated the Koolaid

they are about to, but Conti will call it xyzzy or some shit

Shut the fuck up about drivetrain efficiency. Holy shit. Go find a different thread.

Personally it comes down to how and where people ride, for me, Rotorua isn’t packed full of rocks and I don’t smash wheels or tires round here even though most of my riding is on grade 5s. I’m on an old gen 9.8 rail at the moment and realistically don’t need a 750 wh battery 95% of the time and the thing is a tank. I like the Bosch motor from a reliability and power perspective and really don’t need the latest and greatest from Avinox. The gen 5 is meant to be quieter which is my only complaint with...

I typically use the climb switch once per ride. I like to turn it on halfway up the climb when I remember I have it and might as well use it. I tend to turn it off halfway down the descent when I’m puzzling over why my suspension isn’t working. I suspect I am not in the minority.