2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

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AgrAde wrote:
I'd love to see someone attempt a hydraulic damper/viscous coupling type thing rather than using friction in the derailleur clutch. Dunno if it could be made...

I'd love to see someone attempt a hydraulic damper/viscous coupling type thing rather than using friction in the derailleur clutch. Dunno if it could be made small/light/reliable but it would certainly improve shift quality and might not feel quite so gross through the suspension.

I’d like to see an articulating lower chain guide that releases tension at the same rate chain growth adds it. Theoretically this would isolate the clutch...

I’d like to see an articulating lower chain guide that releases tension at the same rate chain growth adds it. Theoretically this would isolate the clutch from the suspension even if it’s exceptionally tight 

I'm personally not a fan of electronic shifting, but it seems like electronic release of damping during a down-shift would be doable when you already have a battery and some processing power onboard. Doesn't solve the effect on suspension, but perhaps it could relieve the pedal effort to climb into the bigger gears. I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen a patent for such a thing. It would increase the size and cost of DRs, but the latest gen are already so massive, perhaps the additional weight would be lost in the noise.

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I believe that thing is for rich Germans... what they call an "SUV" ebike.

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AndehM wrote:

I believe that thing is for rich Germans... what they call an "SUV" ebike.

100%, a high margin inventory mover. Fine for me, will get them to the levo 5 more quickly.

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FullSendy
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Mom, can we get this SUV ebike?

No, we have one of those at home. 

The one at home:

https://www.vaastbikes.com/media/catalog/product/v/a/vaast_054_e1_shimano_ds.jpg?optimize=high&fit=bounds&height=700&width=700&canvas=700:700

These originally retailed for 7500. Full XT, and it is full suspension. 

Now you can find them for 1500. It is a weird big old Caddy feeling of a bike, but with a Bosch Performance motor and is class 3. 

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rgard wrote:
What does this monstrosity cost? (in CAD)

What does this monstrosity cost? (in CAD)

jazza_wil wrote:
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Spends 18,500 on a bike

Oh, you want to come and collect it? That'll be another 90 please.

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I’d like to see an articulating lower chain guide that releases tension at the same rate chain growth adds it. Theoretically this would isolate the clutch...

I’d like to see an articulating lower chain guide that releases tension at the same rate chain growth adds it. Theoretically this would isolate the clutch from the suspension even if it’s exceptionally tight 

hey Blake. stay tuned on this, hopefully later this year. I'll try to make announcements. if you follow my youtube/instagram you'll know I've been trying to shut up bikes for 10 years LOL

final stages of design making my way to first prototypes this month 😀

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I’ve been contemplating making something similar to this, but not actually for a geared bike but for a full suspension single speed.  I’m thinking of making a prototype with my 3d printer but I’ll need to learn CAD first lol 

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Why on earth would that specialized levo monstrosity only come in an sworks model... or even an sworks model at all?  Why would the prospective buyer for this bike ever want factory level suspension, maven ultimate, XX transmission, with carbon wheels, bars etc?  I envision the buyer for this being a commuter with too much money, a dentist that also does trail work or anyone with more ego/narcissism then common sense.  Either way, none of the buyers I can project would want to shave 2-3lbs off of this bike and pay 4k more for it.  

The previous bike that was targeting this segment from specialized, the tero, actually made sense for the very niche buyer that would be looking for such a thing... This thing is real life AI slop.  Who knows, maybe this is the way to grab outside of the mtb niche market into a different niche where the big S has zero marketshare.  It just doesn't seem like a 12k entry point is the way to go about that.  

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As a some sort of specialized fanboy, it's really a shame watching what that company has turned in to but still kind of curious how many more models they can put out of that same frame.

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nskerb
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They are just trying to charge whatever so they can recoup some of the demo development costs lol

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Wtf is this
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Wtf is this

It doesn't seem real.  Does this appeal to anyone?

Maybe they'll sell them all in Dubai to guys driving jacked-up, six-wheeled G-Wagons or something.

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Personally I can see both sides of this. I think flip chips and other sorts of an adjustment are great in that they add further options...

Personally I can see both sides of this. I think flip chips and other sorts of an adjustment are great in that they add further options in terms of democratizing bikes. 

They can in theory allow two different people seeking different things to ride the same bike, or for a bike to be used for multiple disciplines (trail vs bike park or that kind of thing). Adjusting the reach or wheel size could also allow people of different dimensions to both feel comfortable on the same bike. 

All of this said, I feel like the flip chips and other adjustments are frequently like plus or minus a quarter a degree (semi hyperbole) at which point, I say why bother? I doubt an adjustment that minute is going to be that detectable to many and even if it is, as stated earlier, most will be pretty quick to adjust to the edit one way or the other.

I tend to fine myself on the other end flip chip theory. I tend to be more anti flip chip as it always tends to make...

I tend to fine myself on the other end flip chip theory. I tend to be more anti flip chip as it always tends to make thing more complicated and doesn't really add to the ride feel of the bike. There's also something to be said with a bike manufacture creating a bike with one specific geo and running it like that.

Although, I am currently on a Forbidden Dreadnought V2 with drop out adjustments. I think this is one of useful adjustments as it makes a noticeable change without complications or compromises. Along with that I think that the two rocker links that Raaw does is also very useful. Though other than that I feel like flip chips are sort of compromised in many ways and tend to add complications. Even worse is the flip chips that claim you can change the rear wheel size with. These are almost always compromised in one setup. Just make a bike with a specific wheel size and roll with it, the end. Mixed for 150mm+ and full 29 for -150mm other than a couple special cases. I do realize making that blanket statement is easier when I am of average height but for the majority of people I tend to think this is fine. 

I don’t really have any experience with how well the wheel size flip chips have worked. Are there any bikes that have done it well?

I can share an example of flip chips for wheel size done poorly because I owned a 2024 trek session for a year. 

Based on the geo numbers, the bike was clearly designed around a 29" rear wheel, but Trek marketing decided that sure, you can throw a 27.5 rear wheel on it as long as you put it in the high flip chip position. 

What results is a largely rear biased bike. The bike rides so much better with a 29" rear wheel I went back to that, despite persistent butt buzzing because I'm a normal height dude. 

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It doesn't seem real.  Does this appeal to anyone?

Maybe they'll sell them all in Dubai to guys driving jacked-up, six-wheeled G-Wagons or something.

Would be sweet on those 5 days every spring I’m out doing trail side chainsaw work. 

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Is there a new POC Coron on the go?

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Specialized single handedly making this sport look pretentious as hell. I dont care who you are or how “cooool” it is, if youre buying that bike, Im going to laugh at you. Tahoe about to be filled with this shit. 

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Wtf is this
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Wtf is this

Well..my first reaction was the same. 

On a second thought, disregarding the ridiculous price...I'd be more keen to have this than most e-bikes that came out recently. 

I generally don't enjoy riding e-bikes, so if I do, it's for trail building. I'd actually take this thing for carrying tools etc. Maybe I'm just low key trying to repeat my "ebike isn't a mtb" thing, as in my view an emtb fits somewhere between a shovel and a VW Jetta, but for such purpose it actually makes some sense.

But then again you look at the price and I'm back to "I'd rather walk than ebike"

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You know what?  That's actually quite fair.  While the bike obviously looks silly at first glance, a few of them would probably be a decent purchase for a well-funded trail association for trail maintenance purposes.  

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Wtf is this
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Wtf is this

MrDuck wrote:
Well..my first reaction was the same. On a second thought, disregarding the ridiculous price...I'd be more keen to have this than most e-bikes that came out recently. I...

Well..my first reaction was the same. 

On a second thought, disregarding the ridiculous price...I'd be more keen to have this than most e-bikes that came out recently. 

I generally don't enjoy riding e-bikes, so if I do, it's for trail building. I'd actually take this thing for carrying tools etc. Maybe I'm just low key trying to repeat my "ebike isn't a mtb" thing, as in my view an emtb fits somewhere between a shovel and a VW Jetta, but for such purpose it actually makes some sense.

But then again you look at the price and I'm back to "I'd rather walk than ebike"

luckily you can just buy the cheaper alloy levo 4 and then add the racks, saving you 7k each. 

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You know what?  That's actually quite fair.  While the bike obviously looks silly at first glance, a few of them would probably be a decent purchase...

You know what?  That's actually quite fair.  While the bike obviously looks silly at first glance, a few of them would probably be a decent purchase for a well-funded trail association for trail maintenance purposes.  

I highly doubt trail associations need an Sworks bike that costs 3x the price of a good enough alternative.

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You know what?  That's actually quite fair.  While the bike obviously looks silly at first glance, a few of them would probably be a decent purchase...

You know what?  That's actually quite fair.  While the bike obviously looks silly at first glance, a few of them would probably be a decent purchase for a well-funded trail association for trail maintenance purposes.  

We considered them for our trail crew but people were hesitant since they didn’t actually see the rack in person. They also debated whether there were many days that you’d actually bike in with lots of tools for one day of work. Vesus walking in with tools, stashing them, and biking in the subsequent days. I thought the bike and rack was a good idea. 

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Ob917
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 It sure what those guys are thinking. But whatever it is it’s goofy as heck

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seanfisseli
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It absolutely seems like a “hey ChatGPT can you analyze the bike and outdoor industries and come up with 5 ideas/opportunities that would generate profit for our international bicycle company? Preferably with some buzzwords attached thank you!”

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Wtf is this
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Wtf is this

This is grotesque. But I wonder what kind of range you could get out of it if you were to really stretch out the motor and match a traditional bike packing effort

JVP
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That Levo X is weird with that parts kit but put Deore level stuff on it and paint it camo and they'll sell an absolute shit ton of them.

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JVP wrote:
That Levo X is weird with that parts kit but put Deore level stuff on it and paint it camo and they'll sell an absolute shit...

That Levo X is weird with that parts kit but put Deore level stuff on it and paint it camo and they'll sell an absolute shit ton of them.

It’s the combo of paint and build kit that boggles my mind. You’re right, there is a market for this kind of bike but this particular build is bizarro

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