"So the [serial number] is... one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest [serial number] I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!" - Steve Peat
Should be cheaper I’ve heard, trek prices in NZ are out of control, priced like a Santa Cruz/Yeti, 1/2 the quality
Hope so, or theyll have to go atleast 30% off again to sell any. gen 6 ex 8 current retail is 6499 but currently available at 4890 ish. IMO They'd have to retail for 5499 to even be competitive which i cant see happening.
one upside of trek NZ is they have quite a large margin on them also Retailers can access and approve alot of non full frame warranties themselves.
A more refined version of Mondraker's proto DH bike seen in a Fast AF* vid from Andorra today. Can't tell if they still have the modular...
A more refined version of Mondraker's proto DH bike seen in a Fast AF* vid from Andorra today. Can't tell if they still have the modular bb set up, but does look to have changeable drop outs to change CS length. Carbon version expected later this summer
Hopefully they learned from the gen6 EX that a carbon drivestay chainstay can’t be 7mm thick in profile just to clear a chainring. I’m on my 3rd chainstay at this point.
Maybe this is old news, but from pit bits: looks like the prototype Session Lachie is running has an adjustable main pivot position via flip chip which is neat, but the the really interesting thing to me is how high the idler is which would give the bike very low anti-squat. I'm curious what the driver is there, since there's already pretty minimal pedal kickback in the current released model. It's also interesting that it looks like even the higher pivot position is lower than the current model, it feels like DH bikes are for the most part settling in on lower high pivots.
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Knolly wanted to sue Intense for less than this a few years ago, apparently they patented the seat tube-downtube intersection at a specific angle... we'll see what they do with this one 😬
"This patent describes a rear suspension system with at least four inches of travel and a seat tube that can accommodate a dropper seat post with at least four inches of travel. The patent also states that the seat tube intersects the downtube above the bottom bracket at an angle between 50° and 75° relative to the horizontal."
Maybe this is old news, but from pit bits: looks like the prototype Session Lachie is running has an adjustable main pivot position via flip chip...
Maybe this is old news, but from pit bits: looks like the prototype Session Lachie is running has an adjustable main pivot position via flip chip which is neat, but the the really interesting thing to me is how high the idler is which would give the bike very low anti-squat. I'm curious what the driver is there, since there's already pretty minimal pedal kickback in the current released model. It's also interesting that it looks like even the higher pivot position is lower than the current model, it feels like DH bikes are for the most part settling in on lower high pivots.
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won on mid pivot. But I do agree things are settling around the mid pivot area where you can get the best of both worlds.
We could go back in time and try this dual pivot? Low speed impacts the axle moves vertically and high speed impacts the axle moved backwards
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won...
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won on mid pivot. But I do agree things are settling around the mid pivot area where you can get the best of both worlds.
We could go back in time and try this dual pivot? Low speed impacts the axle moves vertically and high speed impacts the axle moved backwards
It wouldn't surprise me if something like that popped up again..
The BCD is completely different than the concept from Cannondale. It has two pivots for the swingarm, each pivot with it's own shock and those shocks would be tuned specific to each pivot.
The low pivot would have a shock tune with lower LS compression and really high HS compression. The high pivot would then have lower relative HS compression and really high LS compression.
Not sure how the spring rates would pan out as it's two springs in series but each will have a different leverage ratio.
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won...
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won on mid pivot. But I do agree things are settling around the mid pivot area where you can get the best of both worlds.
We could go back in time and try this dual pivot? Low speed impacts the axle moves vertically and high speed impacts the axle moved backwards
serial number nerds...
Very curious about the bolts through the bottom of the downtube (above the modular BB situation) on that Mondraker proto. Removable weights, perhaps?
I would bet on weights, stiffening bridge or mass damper mounting location?
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Why did they remount the tyre the wrong way for the second pic
Shake weight mount
*ENHANCE*
"So the [serial number] is... one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest [serial number] I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!" - Steve Peat
One of the most unexciting releases
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Should be cheaper I’ve heard, trek prices in NZ are out of control, priced like a Santa Cruz/Yeti, 1/2 the quality
Hope so, or theyll have to go atleast 30% off again to sell any. gen 6 ex 8 current retail is 6499 but currently available at 4890 ish.
IMO They'd have to retail for 5499 to even be competitive which i cant see happening.
one upside of trek NZ is they have quite a large margin on them also Retailers can access and approve alot of non full frame warranties themselves.
A fan of the lack of a kinked seat tube or a nonsense shock tunnel to enable mega dropper lengths.
there will be several versions of the fuel ex with more travel. same for the motor version
I believe the modular BB setup is still there
Hopefully they learned from the gen6 EX that a carbon drivestay chainstay can’t be 7mm thick in profile just to clear a chainring. I’m on my 3rd chainstay at this point.
To the person that asked, Im guessing the bolts in the bottom bracket junction are bolts to attach a weight maybe?
Half the quality?
This!
LT version 160/170 with and without motor.
A more."trail" version of the slash, while the slash will stay the bikepark machine it is
Maybe this is old news, but from pit bits: looks like the prototype Session Lachie is running has an adjustable main pivot position via flip chip which is neat, but the the really interesting thing to me is how high the idler is which would give the bike very low anti-squat. I'm curious what the driver is there, since there's already pretty minimal pedal kickback in the current released model. It's also interesting that it looks like even the higher pivot position is lower than the current model, it feels like DH bikes are for the most part settling in on lower high pivots.
Knolly wanted to sue Intense for less than this a few years ago, apparently they patented the seat tube-downtube intersection at a specific angle... we'll see what they do with this one 😬
"This patent describes a rear suspension system with at least four inches of travel and a seat tube that can accommodate a dropper seat post with at least four inches of travel. The patent also states that the seat tube intersects the downtube above the bottom bracket at an angle between 50° and 75° relative to the horizontal."
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/Knolly-Suing-Intense-Claiming…
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won on mid pivot. But I do agree things are settling around the mid pivot area where you can get the best of both worlds.
We could go back in time and try this dual pivot? Low speed impacts the axle moves vertically and high speed impacts the axle moved backwards
It wouldn't surprise me if something like that popped up again..
Cannondale had that split/dual shock proto a few years ago that never really saw the light of production.
The Cannondale was trying to separate and control damping but had a fixed wheel path.
The bike Joe posted has a ‘variable’ wheel path depending on how the two shock compress at any given time.
not in the dual shock configuration, but that did ultimately evolve into the current gen jekyll.
the dual shock config was an interesting concept. they were experimenting with having one for damping and one for the spring.
The BCD is completely different than the concept from Cannondale. It has two pivots for the swingarm, each pivot with it's own shock and those shocks would be tuned specific to each pivot.
The low pivot would have a shock tune with lower LS compression and really high HS compression. The high pivot would then have lower relative HS compression and really high LS compression.
Not sure how the spring rates would pan out as it's two springs in series but each will have a different leverage ratio.
EXT with a new or refreshed fork.
Fun fact.I used to work at that shop. The owner is a @%&
Didn’t FTW have a proto with a similar concept?