Almost certain that isn't an Ohlins. The crown machining and shape don't match. There are no negative surface cuts at the arch or the axle like...
Almost certain that isn't an Ohlins. The crown machining and shape don't match. There are no negative surface cuts at the arch or the axle like an Ohlins. Look at the top caps/adjusters. Nothing looks similar to anything from the major players. Potentially a new lower casting, maybe a new fork from FAST?
Fast are indeed working on a fork, but it's a single crown, you can see it here :
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h-dMzSac5zM (it's a short video of a project which goal is to do a French bike, either with made in France products or, as the Rockrider frame implies, designed in France parts).
Does not mean that there isn't a downhill fork in development though. Fast is a small brand (I don't know now, but a few years ago it was a one man brand, the dude on the left in the video), so they're most likely using generic lowers for now, their strength is the internals.
Word on the street is they can all be an S Works motor with a firmware update from your friendly local dealer… just minus that “m sport” badge which will be available on ebay soon
Got to give it to them, Specialized know their market! They are purely catering to the rich old guy here, the kind that always buy the latest S-Works Levo and get secretly frustrated when they’re on the trails and the friendly blue collar guy rocks up on his comp or expert and reminds him that he has pretty much the same bike for nearly half the price. Mr superior works will be please that now he can really set himself apart from the plebs.
Got to give it to them, Specialized know their market! They are purely catering to the rich old guy here, the kind that always buy the...
Got to give it to them, Specialized know their market! They are purely catering to the rich old guy here, the kind that always buy the latest S-Works Levo and get secretly frustrated when they’re on the trails and the friendly blue collar guy rocks up on his comp or expert and reminds him that he has pretty much the same bike for nearly half the price. Mr superior works will be please that now he can really set himself apart from the plebs.
I think it's great to have options. Similar to having a base model sports car and a ludicrous model with 900 horse power. If I had $15000 to spend on a freakin bicycle, I certainly would.
I think it’s a Float X Genie, as opposed to the Float Genie which is an inline shock.
Yeah it is most likely the same shock that is already on the latest version of the Turbo Levo SL. Spec sheet of those bikes say "FOX FLOAT X Factory with Specialized GENIE Shock Tech"
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are they bigger in Asia or are they a manufacturer for other brands and keep taking swings with their own line?
I bet they only ordered like 400 at most so definitely jump on the “dh” trail bike with 41% progression if you want to ride actual...
I bet they only ordered like 400 at most so definitely jump on the “dh” trail bike with 41% progression if you want to ride actual dh buy anything else
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are...
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are they bigger in Asia or are they a manufacturer for other brands and keep taking swings with their own line?
Newsflash: not everyone can afford/needs kashima and 6377364 knobs in their suspension.
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are...
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are they bigger in Asia or are they a manufacturer for other brands and keep taking swings with their own line?
I always assumed they were kinda like SR Suntour and made parts for others primarily.
It seems like with all these alternative suspension companies (not Fox/Rockshox and maybe now Ohlins) there success is tied to how easy it is to get replacement parts and talk to someone internal directly to answer questions.
If a non-mainstream company could have their whole parts inventory easily accessible and always in stock and answer emails quickly, I think they could do well if the product worked even decent and there costs were reasonable.
I bet they only ordered like 400 at most so definitely jump on the “dh” trail bike with 41% progression if you want to ride actual...
I bet they only ordered like 400 at most so definitely jump on the “dh” trail bike with 41% progression if you want to ride actual dh buy anything else
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are...
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are they bigger in Asia or are they a manufacturer for other brands and keep taking swings with their own line?
Newsflash: not everyone can afford/needs kashima and 6377364 knobs in their suspension.
I'm aware, and have an understanding that 90% or more of riders have no business touching high speed compression or rebound knobs. There are many suspension company's making fantastic stuff for cheap. Suntour, Rockshox, Marzocchi and X-fusion all knock it out of the park with close to $500 suspension products for every day riders from XC to freeride. I love my Z1 and rarely do I find it unable to keep up to my 38 Factory while it does double duty on a hardtail on the same trails. And the Domain has been a reliable smasher of a park and freeride fork for 10+ years,
I'll elaborate on my question so there's not another mistaken shot at elitism. Where do they come from and why do they seem to pop up every 8 years or so? They seem to come out with a meh attempt to have a mid level fork or forks come to market, it reviews poorly and has absolutely zero support in any way other than a small US office that tried their best but ultimately it just wasn't doable and then they disappear again, making ok entry level stuff that seems to come and go on OEM stuff. In Canada it was like pulling teeth to get support for the Aquila, which was a half decent entry level fork that came on almost every 2017/18 hardtail, but if there was an issue with it, it was new fork time which was frustrating to customers.
I'm all fork RST to come out swinging to release a good product, but where Suntour, who i view as their classic competitor, dug deep and built the RUX and Durolux by beating their heads into the ground very publicly and ended up with a pretty dang good product, RST hasn't delivered the same way. It seems odd to have so many products to compare and test against but always come up short.
If it’s the one that was floating around NZ national champs them it’s a painted up Boxxer.
It is actually an RST - that bike came through my shop for some quick set up and it was nothing like anything else I've seen. I seem to remember the compression damping had a million clicks from super soft to basically locked out. No idea whats in side them but felt smooth enough to be serviceable?
It is actually an RST - that bike came through my shop for some quick set up and it was nothing like anything else I've seen...
It is actually an RST - that bike came through my shop for some quick set up and it was nothing like anything else I've seen. I seem to remember the compression damping had a million clicks from super soft to basically locked out. No idea whats in side them but felt smooth enough to be serviceable?
Interesting! I was sure I saw a little debonair stamp on one of the stanchions. Making things up as I go along haha
It is actually an RST - that bike came through my shop for some quick set up and it was nothing like anything else I've seen...
It is actually an RST - that bike came through my shop for some quick set up and it was nothing like anything else I've seen. I seem to remember the compression damping had a million clicks from super soft to basically locked out. No idea whats in side them but felt smooth enough to be serviceable?
Interesting! I was sure I saw a little debonair stamp on one of the stanchions. Making things up as I go along haha
To be fair I was sure I misread the text when he said it was an RST.....hadn't even thought of them in years! But apparently it is a current product...they have service vids online and the damper is a fairly normal cartridge with shims and oil.....just not sealed with an IFP or anything. (and yes I definitely don't take for granted that every damper uses shims or something that resembles modern technology even in 2025....)
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are...
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are they bigger in Asia or are they a manufacturer for other brands and keep taking swings with their own line?
I'm aware, and have an understanding that 90% or more of riders have no business touching high speed compression or rebound knobs. There are many suspension...
I'm aware, and have an understanding that 90% or more of riders have no business touching high speed compression or rebound knobs. There are many suspension company's making fantastic stuff for cheap. Suntour, Rockshox, Marzocchi and X-fusion all knock it out of the park with close to $500 suspension products for every day riders from XC to freeride. I love my Z1 and rarely do I find it unable to keep up to my 38 Factory while it does double duty on a hardtail on the same trails. And the Domain has been a reliable smasher of a park and freeride fork for 10+ years,
I'll elaborate on my question so there's not another mistaken shot at elitism. Where do they come from and why do they seem to pop up every 8 years or so? They seem to come out with a meh attempt to have a mid level fork or forks come to market, it reviews poorly and has absolutely zero support in any way other than a small US office that tried their best but ultimately it just wasn't doable and then they disappear again, making ok entry level stuff that seems to come and go on OEM stuff. In Canada it was like pulling teeth to get support for the Aquila, which was a half decent entry level fork that came on almost every 2017/18 hardtail, but if there was an issue with it, it was new fork time which was frustrating to customers.
I'm all fork RST to come out swinging to release a good product, but where Suntour, who i view as their classic competitor, dug deep and built the RUX and Durolux by beating their heads into the ground very publicly and ended up with a pretty dang good product, RST hasn't delivered the same way. It seems odd to have so many products to compare and test against but always come up short.
Excellent points. Up until maybe 10 years ago, you could find RST products in local bike brands of third world countries (I'm speaking from experience here, I'm Argentinian). Then, SunTour started to gain market share. These days most entry/supermarket bikes have unbranded or same-brand-as-the-bike forks, mostly AliExpress basic stuff.
Still, RST seems to be big in the APAC area, and in some way, in Brazil. You have to understand there's no way for a guy with a basic income of less than 250 USD to get the kind of money necessary to buy a brand new Fox 40 or Rockshox Boxxer.
They RST 8-year resurrection cycle has more to do with the way tech trickles down and gets cheaper to produce. Still, they do awful stuff such as making parts that should be metal in plastic. I understand, you have to cut some corners to offer a double crown fork with an hydraulic cartridge for less than 600 bucks, and you won't notice the flaws until something breaks, but they still survive by being cheaper than most brands.
The zero support statement is also true outside the US, but still, when you have a big (and mostly, unnoticed for the big media) chunk of the DH/freeride movement building their bikes from the frame up by buying grey market components from AliExpress/eBay (such as in Russia, Eastern Europe, Brazil, Mexico, South America, APAC), you need to understand zero support means nothing when you get the same level from the big brands, simply because there's no official rep in any of those regions, and the local guy importing/smuggling spare parts would charge you three times the retail value in the US/EU, and you have to pray for the exact spare you need to be in stock.
Also, to buy a big-brand suspension product in the countries I mentioned before, either you order it from USA/EU and deal with the customs and taxes, or it comes stock in a bike, or you buy it from someone who bought a complete bike and is stripping it down for profit. There's practically ZERO brand representation for Fox, Rockshox, SunTour, etc. The wholesale bike suppliers/importers would bring in whatever is cheaper or in stock at the time of ordering. So, in essence, the importers are basically using RST to fill the gaps there.
I see RST doing these product releases just to still keep some of their '90s prestige. Here in Argentina (and most of the third world), when all SunTour had to offer was the spring based 7007 and Rockshox had the Quadra and Mag 21, RST had decent elastomer basic forks, and they made a name for themselves for being dependable enough to justify buying a complete bike if it had one of their products. They still lack any kind of formal/regular media presence though.
Fast are indeed working on a fork, but it's a single crown, you can see it here :
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h-dMzSac5zM (it's a short video of a project which goal is to do a French bike, either with made in France products or, as the Rockrider frame implies, designed in France parts).
Does not mean that there isn't a downhill fork in development though. Fast is a small brand (I don't know now, but a few years ago it was a one man brand, the dude on the left in the video), so they're most likely using generic lowers for now, their strength is the internals.
Word on the street is they can all be an S Works motor with a firmware update from your friendly local dealer… just minus that “m sport” badge which will be available on ebay soon
Sorry Im a little lost. Whats going on or did happen with the TR11?
I think it's fair to say that any and all illusion that this is a bicycle is now gone.
basically, It's rubbish.
I owned one for 2 months an it's probably the worst performing one i've ridden(modern bikes)
Got to give it to them, Specialized know their market! They are purely catering to the rich old guy here, the kind that always buy the latest S-Works Levo and get secretly frustrated when they’re on the trails and the friendly blue collar guy rocks up on his comp or expert and reminds him that he has pretty much the same bike for nearly half the price. Mr superior works will be please that now he can really set himself apart from the plebs.
I think it's great to have options. Similar to having a base model sports car and a ludicrous model with 900 horse power. If I had $15000 to spend on a freakin bicycle, I certainly would.
Could the YT mystery suspension be the new RST? Looks at least a new dual crown is on the way
No pinch bolt, so seems unlikely?
So the genie is now called the float x? Can looks much bigger.
I think it’s a Float X Genie, as opposed to the Float Genie which is an inline shock.
Yeah it is most likely the same shock that is already on the latest version of the Turbo Levo SL. Spec sheet of those bikes say "FOX FLOAT X Factory with Specialized GENIE Shock Tech"
Its been out for a bit
Where does RST keep coming out of? They seem to pop up every 7-8 years trying to break into into the high end market again. Are they bigger in Asia or are they a manufacturer for other brands and keep taking swings with their own line?
Made and engineered in china!
Newsflash: not everyone can afford/needs kashima and 6377364 knobs in their suspension.
I always assumed they were kinda like SR Suntour and made parts for others primarily.
It seems like with all these alternative suspension companies (not Fox/Rockshox and maybe now Ohlins) there success is tied to how easy it is to get replacement parts and talk to someone internal directly to answer questions.
If a non-mainstream company could have their whole parts inventory easily accessible and always in stock and answer emails quickly, I think they could do well if the product worked even decent and there costs were reasonable.
If it’s the one that was floating around NZ national champs them it’s a painted up Boxxer.
Transitions are manufactured in Taiwan
I'm aware, and have an understanding that 90% or more of riders have no business touching high speed compression or rebound knobs. There are many suspension company's making fantastic stuff for cheap. Suntour, Rockshox, Marzocchi and X-fusion all knock it out of the park with close to $500 suspension products for every day riders from XC to freeride. I love my Z1 and rarely do I find it unable to keep up to my 38 Factory while it does double duty on a hardtail on the same trails. And the Domain has been a reliable smasher of a park and freeride fork for 10+ years,
I'll elaborate on my question so there's not another mistaken shot at elitism. Where do they come from and why do they seem to pop up every 8 years or so? They seem to come out with a meh attempt to have a mid level fork or forks come to market, it reviews poorly and has absolutely zero support in any way other than a small US office that tried their best but ultimately it just wasn't doable and then they disappear again, making ok entry level stuff that seems to come and go on OEM stuff. In Canada it was like pulling teeth to get support for the Aquila, which was a half decent entry level fork that came on almost every 2017/18 hardtail, but if there was an issue with it, it was new fork time which was frustrating to customers.
I'm all fork RST to come out swinging to release a good product, but where Suntour, who i view as their classic competitor, dug deep and built the RUX and Durolux by beating their heads into the ground very publicly and ended up with a pretty dang good product, RST hasn't delivered the same way. It seems odd to have so many products to compare and test against but always come up short.
It is actually an RST - that bike came through my shop for some quick set up and it was nothing like anything else I've seen. I seem to remember the compression damping had a million clicks from super soft to basically locked out. No idea whats in side them but felt smooth enough to be serviceable?
What about the new shimano brakes? any idea when they drivtrain or brakes will launch?
June
Interesting! I was sure I saw a little debonair stamp on one of the stanchions. Making things up as I go along haha
To be fair I was sure I misread the text when he said it was an RST.....hadn't even thought of them in years! But apparently it is a current product...they have service vids online and the damper is a fairly normal cartridge with shims and oil.....just not sealed with an IFP or anything. (and yes I definitely don't take for granted that every damper uses shims or something that resembles modern technology even in 2025....)
Correct me if I'm wrong but that looks like a 29er Rear?
Excellent points. Up until maybe 10 years ago, you could find RST products in local bike brands of third world countries (I'm speaking from experience here, I'm Argentinian). Then, SunTour started to gain market share. These days most entry/supermarket bikes have unbranded or same-brand-as-the-bike forks, mostly AliExpress basic stuff.
Still, RST seems to be big in the APAC area, and in some way, in Brazil. You have to understand there's no way for a guy with a basic income of less than 250 USD to get the kind of money necessary to buy a brand new Fox 40 or Rockshox Boxxer.
They RST 8-year resurrection cycle has more to do with the way tech trickles down and gets cheaper to produce. Still, they do awful stuff such as making parts that should be metal in plastic. I understand, you have to cut some corners to offer a double crown fork with an hydraulic cartridge for less than 600 bucks, and you won't notice the flaws until something breaks, but they still survive by being cheaper than most brands.
The zero support statement is also true outside the US, but still, when you have a big (and mostly, unnoticed for the big media) chunk of the DH/freeride movement building their bikes from the frame up by buying grey market components from AliExpress/eBay (such as in Russia, Eastern Europe, Brazil, Mexico, South America, APAC), you need to understand zero support means nothing when you get the same level from the big brands, simply because there's no official rep in any of those regions, and the local guy importing/smuggling spare parts would charge you three times the retail value in the US/EU, and you have to pray for the exact spare you need to be in stock.
Also, to buy a big-brand suspension product in the countries I mentioned before, either you order it from USA/EU and deal with the customs and taxes, or it comes stock in a bike, or you buy it from someone who bought a complete bike and is stripping it down for profit. There's practically ZERO brand representation for Fox, Rockshox, SunTour, etc. The wholesale bike suppliers/importers would bring in whatever is cheaper or in stock at the time of ordering. So, in essence, the importers are basically using RST to fill the gaps there.
I see RST doing these product releases just to still keep some of their '90s prestige. Here in Argentina (and most of the third world), when all SunTour had to offer was the spring based 7007 and Rockshox had the Quadra and Mag 21, RST had decent elastomer basic forks, and they made a name for themselves for being dependable enough to justify buying a complete bike if it had one of their products. They still lack any kind of formal/regular media presence though.
Looks like the Forbidden eMTB (I'm assuming) will be 'landing' at Sea Otter.
he was invited by cpt. obvious