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Doesn't have to be S tier build to have proprietary suspension. Take the Trek Supercaliber or Specialized Epic WC for example. They just omit the kashima coating and fancy components on cheaper builds.
Regardless, less stoked to hear that Specialized might be going back to proprietary suspension. It is highly unlikely that Fox is releasing another shock in their newly revised lineup (Float SL, Float, Float X). It sounds like this new stumpy would be using a modified version of the new Float.
you mean like what cannondale did with fox on their dyad pull shocks and what scott is doing for years (also with fox) on their nude shocks? how did that turn out?
those shocks were/are hot garbage compared to normal shocks.
maybe they're trying to have a strong enough shock that doesn't fail with the yoke, considering what happened when they put their hands into a shock ( autosag ) it's gonna be a hot piece of shit most likely
I got a Float X with the Gemini air sleeve that Cannondale used for a while for my Bird. A remote controls a valve between the main chamber and the sleeve.
Could be that my bike was just too progressive even for the full volume as the difference was pretty negligable so I just put a standard HV air can on it.
First time i hear or read about a 6-pot Saint - must have missed it here! Doubt it as all others keep making 4-pots with immense power - a 6-potter will be quite heavy compared to others!
On the Stumpy and proprietary shock. In the pinkbike podcast they discussed a new patented shock design that they use on the world cup. The way I heard it was the intention was to adjust the damper curve control the last 20% of travel in a more controlled manor than with tokens (or whatever a shock ramp is called). They said in order to get the feeling they want for 80% of the riding that they needed less progression of the design, but then blows through the end with a subset of aggressive riders (which is a common thing I heard from stumpy evo owners). One way aggressive riders handled this was a lot of ramp tokens, but then you lose some of the feeling in the beginning. The new shock would allow them to keep the same feeling off the top but have a more controllable and better feeling ramp.
How then I understood it was say if the first 1/2 of the travel is with 150psi, and the end is 70psi. To me it sounded sort of the Diaz Suspension Runt concept in the shock.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/62Y7zBc4iQYr7t2L3ytJ7V?si=3a385e00aad3…; This is at 1:01.
the exact opposite of Treks/Fox DRCV shock. that was utterly crap btw. :D
They weren't that bad if you disabled the DRCV feature during a rebuild and just turned them into higher volume regular shocks with a weird eye to eye and stroke.
Ibis teasing a bike to drop on July 2nd on their Instagram. May be a hardtail.
Any word on when the High Roller 3 is going to show up? It looks like the deep dust & baked hardpack tire I could use right about now.
Absolutely no idea what you're talking about
Instagram post of said tease
Might not be 6-pot, but it was connected to the discussion about the Shimano patent for direct mount 6-pot brakes...
EDIT: it was in the brakes topic:
Seeing lots of swaps from Shimano to Maven. Sounds like they realize this is an actual issue/threat. Takes a lot to make Shimano move quickly... the Saint brakes are 10+ years old.
Get a Magic Mary, thank me later
Theres zero need for a 6 pot brake.
I'd wager Shimano won't make one.
There 4 pot is plenty powerful just needs refinements like pad contact and no wandering bite point of doom.
A thicker rotor would be good from them though.
Been there, done that. Does better in the deep dust than an Assegai/DHR2 combo, but needs more side-knob support for the hardpack.
Shorty works good for this, Took me awhile to try one as I always assumed more of a wet tyre but its designed for both Deep dust/loam & slightly wet - im using Shorty f/r on my Ebike for the current wet but then dry an dusty conditions we have in NZ at times.
Argotal is a good option aswell.
And caliper pistons that don't self destruct every 6 months.
I might have to give these a go. Assegai up front, and a "fast rolling" Vigilante out back have been my go to for years, but WTB hasn't had fast rolling 27.5's in stock for a loooong time now. I should have bought 20 instead of 8 when REI was blowing them out.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only
ffs
Maybe not a confirmation, BUT could increase rumors. Iirc patent filing will call what we call drivetrains "transmissions". I still have my hopes out for a mechanical transmission from SRAM though, until then I'll stick with XT/X01.
I just took my Shorties off. Good for the deep dust, but gets pretty wandery at high speed on hard surfaces. Hillbilly side knobs are stouter. Haven't tried the Argotal yet.
A deep dive on the other site had me find this unreleased article. Can't click on it but surely it can't be far away
I'm unable to tell whether it's mechanical or wireless, apologies for the poor quality screenshot.
I’m wondering how crap it will be, GX t-type are shitting themselves and stop working randomly, XO has no clutch tension whatsoever after a couple rides, XX seems to be good, no idea about the XXSL. meh
Looks clunky enough to have a battery. Does seem to have something resembling a cable outer port behind the mounting bolt...
Making it mechanical would be the easiest way to make it cheaper. Make the cable pull ratios the same as eagle and you can use the old shifters. And if you want to have the slow shifting to not rush the cassette, use a 1x click shifter that was available for ebikes in the Eagle days.
I've been running the Argotal SS DH this year and it is great on the occasional hardpack. The tire is very square due to the tall side knobs but once you roll it over it don't squirm much and is very stable. The grip in loose dirt, shale/scree and loam is just mind blowing. Highly recommend!
Edit: whoops! Noticed the tire nerd thread just now.
We should swap fronts on a shuttle day since we have the same wheels and see what the control difference is between the Kryp-F SS and the Argo-SS and compare notes soon
Can you share the URL you got that from?
Does indeed look almost as chunky as the others, but somehow slightly less so. Could it be they use a smaller battery?
Mechanical would be good though, neglecting the whole budget market OR managing to make electronic affordable enough seems both hard to imagine