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pretty sure there must be a thread regarding brakes… back to rumors please!

Is there a brake forum? This is a weekly occurrence at this point.

I think there is a difference between maximum, overall power a brake puts in and when that power comes on. Most riders will likely never experience or leverage a brakes full power. Using a theoretical example, if you have a lever that takes 8 inches of lever pull to get max power, that power is going to be less realized by most than a lever that takes 3 inches of stroke to reach max power. Meanwhile, some may require more force at the lever to put power down, others less. This is why some brakes may dyno really powerful, but...

I love Enduro MTB's tests. Having real data to their opinions is always helpful. However, the always do something odd in the testing that kind of makes me wonder why they did what they did. For instance, on their chart showing brake performance they decided to use sinter/metallic pads for all the brakes except for the Mavens and TRP. The fact that the Mavens were as powerful as they were with organic pads leads me to believe that they actually might be the strongest brake out there on the market currently. Not to derail this thread on another brake discussion...

i'm certainly curious as to how the various metrics were factored and weighted in the final assessment. one feature only the dominion's have is the alignment set screws on the calipers ("crosshair"). for how long these brakes have been on the market i'm astonished that nobody has copied it yet.

for how old the current saint models are now that may have been considered elder abuse

Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever. It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever...

well, Saturday was 4/20.

Looking at Sea Otter coverage & other recent product announcements, high-flow tubeless valves seem to be this year's "We made one too!" product.

Don't know if they made it out of the testing stage, but the Enves I saw last year were single wall moto style rims like Zipp. For sure not stiff.

Sram has Black Box, Propain has Hot Box..

Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon, Washington, BC, California, Arizona, and Idaho in the sun and rain and haven't had any problems with it as a rear tire*. For a downhill race I'd switch to a Maxxgrip rear for just a little more grip and damping over chatter, but it's not like the bike was unridable with the harder rear tire. *Of course, dual compound tires should never, ever, ever be mounted as a front tire

is there a tire forum thread

Make that 3C MaxxGrip in EXO. That's what some of us want. Or a super soft Conti in trail casing.

Goodness I ditched a pair of Kryptotals after two rides. The endurance casing has about as much grip as a Maxxis that was left in the sun for three years. Only place I can see that endurance compound being useful is Moab.

Correct; it's an all new design. I've been rolling on a set for a while. They have the classic DT fast, smooth operation paired with 0 fuss and easy maintenance. The 90poe and increased durability is a nice update on the existing EXP and LN ratchets.

It is a total bummer as they were one of the OG gravity brands. I feel like the market is hyper competitive. Your bikes have to look awesome, ride awesome, be on the cutting edge, have a cool story, and your brand has to be an excellent story teller to stay relevant in order to achieve long term success. In the last 7-8 years, I felt as if Kona was just riding the wave of tech and innovation vs being the wave.

Nice.