Good move. I have the Enduro Softs on my enduro bike, and the Trail Endurance casings on the trail bike, and would prefer a softer compound...
Good move. I have the Enduro Softs on my enduro bike, and the Trail Endurance casings on the trail bike, and would prefer a softer compound in the front.
Goodness I ditched a pair of Kryptotals after two rides. The endurance casing has about as much grip as a Maxxis that was left in the sun for three years.
Only place I can see that endurance compound being useful is Moab.
Good move. I have the Enduro Softs on my enduro bike, and the Trail Endurance casings on the trail bike, and would prefer a softer compound...
Good move. I have the Enduro Softs on my enduro bike, and the Trail Endurance casings on the trail bike, and would prefer a softer compound in the front.
Goodness I ditched a pair of Kryptotals after two rides. The endurance casing has about as much grip as a Maxxis that was left in the...
Goodness I ditched a pair of Kryptotals after two rides. The endurance casing has about as much grip as a Maxxis that was left in the sun for three years.
Only place I can see that endurance compound being useful is Moab.
@ Smelly, Sounds like a good compound for a rear tire in the Cali summer/Southern Europe conditions. Shaka!
Make that 3C MaxxGrip in EXO. That's what some of us want. Or a super soft Conti in trail casing.
yeah, Argotal and Kryptotal F both Enduro and trail chasing available in all 3 compounds, and the Rear Krypto and Xynotal in Both soft and hard compound,
As far as I've seen that's only valid for Minion DHF - it comes in EXO MaxxGrip and DH dual compound. And the Aggressor is also available in the later.
Maybe this has changed lately, but not sure about that. DD casing comes jn MaxxGrip, but it's so daft for all the companies - it doesn't make sense to have a heavier casing with softer compound only, if anything the opposite makes more sense. You put a softer tyre in the front which usually gets away with a lighter casing too.
Pike, Lyrik and Zeb were the OG Flight Attendant forks and the basis on which we saw the new Pike and Lyrik chassis and spring before MY23 forks were released if I'm not mistaken.
Pike, Lyrik and Zeb were the OG Flight Attendant forks and the basis on which we saw the new Pike and Lyrik chassis and spring before...
Pike, Lyrik and Zeb were the OG Flight Attendant forks and the basis on which we saw the new Pike and Lyrik chassis and spring before MY23 forks were released if I'm not mistaken.
thx, wasn‘t sure about the pike.
FA isn‘t for me, but interesting development since it‘s going to be on their whole line.
XC always made the most sense to me, we’ll see how it‘s gonna fare in DH.
They need to make DH casing in anything but MaxxGrip…
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those are available in 29 and the DHR2 is also available in a 2.5x27.5. So everybody gets a long wearing, durable rear tire. We just had this discussion (at great length) in the tire forum: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only?page=3#comment…
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those...
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those are available in 29 and the DHR2 is also available in a 2.5x27.5. So everybody gets a long wearing, durable rear tire. We just had this discussion (at great length) in the tire forum: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only?page=3#comment…
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those...
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those are available in 29 and the DHR2 is also available in a 2.5x27.5. So everybody gets a long wearing, durable rear tire. We just had this discussion (at great length) in the tire forum: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only?page=3#comment…
Maxxis DC is horrific on some surfaces. If you want a long wearing durable tire look at Conti DH casing soft, it'll be way better than Maxxis DC.
Maxxis DC is horrific on some surfaces. If you want a long wearing durable tire look at Conti DH casing soft, it'll be way better than...
Maxxis DC is horrific on some surfaces. If you want a long wearing durable tire look at Conti DH casing soft, it'll be way better than Maxxis DC.
Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon, Washington, BC, California, Arizona, and Idaho in the sun and rain and haven't had any problems with it as a rear tire*. For a downhill race I'd switch to a Maxxgrip rear for just a little more grip and damping over chatter, but it's not like the bike was unridable with the harder rear tire.
*Of course, dual compound tires should never, ever, ever be mounted as a front tire
Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon...
Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon, Washington, BC, California, Arizona, and Idaho in the sun and rain and haven't had any problems with it as a rear tire*. For a downhill race I'd switch to a Maxxgrip rear for just a little more grip and damping over chatter, but it's not like the bike was unridable with the harder rear tire.
*Of course, dual compound tires should never, ever, ever be mounted as a front tire
Certain kinds of rock and most roots, and it all gets much worse if it's wet. There's one local trail (Bitterbrush in Lyons, CO) that's mostly rock and Maxxis DC has no grip on it, and when wet it's scary. To make things worse it's not even that durable, the sideknobs on the Aggressor tires get undercut and start to fold over pretty quickly.
Eh, I feel like Kona has been irrelevant for a while and then you have the Kent Outdoors acquisition, all downhill from there. I haven't really...
Eh, I feel like Kona has been irrelevant for a while and then you have the Kent Outdoors acquisition, all downhill from there. I haven't really thought about Konas since seeing the Stinky in like 2012 lol
They have fallen off the radar pretty hard for the last few years but you cannot deny they weren’t the talk of the town not too...
They have fallen off the radar pretty hard for the last few years but you cannot deny they weren’t the talk of the town not too long ago really. 2013-16 ish with the 153 and 111 everybody (me included) were quite stoked.
It is a total bummer as they were one of the OG gravity brands. I feel like the market is hyper competitive. Your bikes have to...
It is a total bummer as they were one of the OG gravity brands. I feel like the market is hyper competitive. Your bikes have to look awesome, ride awesome, be on the cutting edge, have a cool story, and your brand has to be an excellent story teller to stay relevant in order to achieve long term success. In the last 7-8 years, I felt as if Kona was just riding the wave of tech and innovation vs being the wave.
They had a big hand is starting the modern geo wave with the Process line, honestly don't understand why they fell off like they did, because the bikes were a ton of fun.
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those...
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those are available in 29 and the DHR2 is also available in a 2.5x27.5. So everybody gets a long wearing, durable rear tire. We just had this discussion (at great length) in the tire forum: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only?page=3#comment…
Maxxis DC is horrific on some surfaces. If you want a long wearing durable tire look at Conti DH casing soft, it'll be way better than...
Maxxis DC is horrific on some surfaces. If you want a long wearing durable tire look at Conti DH casing soft, it'll be way better than Maxxis DC.
As someone who actually likes having to change tires so they can try more different tires, the Conti rear DH soft compounds have been wearing frustratingly (half kidding) slow. Grip is comparable if not better than maxxis maxxterra and the knobs barely show signs of wear after a season of northeast bike park and granite slab riding. Pretty impressive and good for the wallet. Just put a DH casing soft compound argotal on the back of my levo so interested to see how the taller knobs wear.
That first bike looks sick.
Is it just me or are idlers getting lower and lower every year?
Goodness I ditched a pair of Kryptotals after two rides. The endurance casing has about as much grip as a Maxxis that was left in the sun for three years.
Only place I can see that endurance compound being useful is Moab.
@ Smelly, Sounds like a good compound for a rear tire in the Cali summer/Southern Europe conditions. Shaka!
Make that 3C MaxxGrip in EXO. That's what some of us want. Or a super soft Conti in trail casing.
yeah, Argotal and Kryptotal F both Enduro and trail chasing available in all 3 compounds, and the Rear Krypto and Xynotal in Both soft and hard compound,
That is actually coming?
I thought they already had EXO MaxxGrip though.
They need to make DH casing in anything but MaxxGrip…
As far as I've seen that's only valid for Minion DHF - it comes in EXO MaxxGrip and DH dual compound. And the Aggressor is also available in the later.
Maybe this has changed lately, but not sure about that. DD casing comes jn MaxxGrip, but it's so daft for all the companies - it doesn't make sense to have a heavier casing with softer compound only, if anything the opposite makes more sense. You put a softer tyre in the front which usually gets away with a lighter casing too.
The Assegai came in EXO+ MaxxGrip guise too for a while now. This is in addition to the Maxxgrip compounds available on the dual-ply variants.
I do agree 100% that softer compounds need to be on single ply variants as well.
thx, but this has been posted a couple of times now. FA has been seen on every shock and fork (except pike AFAIK) from RS.
Pike, Lyrik and Zeb were the OG Flight Attendant forks and the basis on which we saw the new Pike and Lyrik chassis and spring before MY23 forks were released if I'm not mistaken.
thx, wasn‘t sure about the pike.
FA isn‘t for me, but interesting development since it‘s going to be on their whole line.
XC always made the most sense to me, we’ll see how it‘s gonna fare in DH.
Oh, you mean like Minion DHF and DHR combo? We got ‘em: TB00144000 and TB00143900
I know the DHF comes in EXO and Maxxgrip. What about any other tread patterns?
is there a tire forum thread
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only?page=3#comment…
The DHR2 also comes in Maxxgrip/Exo. That's what Aaron was saying. Model number is TB00143900
Great news! The Assegai, DHF, and DHR2 are all available in a hard compound with DH casing. Maxxis calls it "Dual Compound." All three of those are available in 29 and the DHR2 is also available in a 2.5x27.5. So everybody gets a long wearing, durable rear tire. We just had this discussion (at great length) in the tire forum: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only?page=3#comment…
No shot. Since when? I gotta take a look!
There is also a DH Casing MaxxTerra DHR2 since not too long ago in 29 and 27.5
(That E50 Logo is just an allowance to use it on an E-Bike up to 50km/h, thats a legal requirement in Europe)

Yeah a bunch of the Forbidden riders have been running it on a Super Deluxe and Vivid. Released date is unknown.
Maxxis DC is horrific on some surfaces. If you want a long wearing durable tire look at Conti DH casing soft, it'll be way better than Maxxis DC.
Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon, Washington, BC, California, Arizona, and Idaho in the sun and rain and haven't had any problems with it as a rear tire*. For a downhill race I'd switch to a Maxxgrip rear for just a little more grip and damping over chatter, but it's not like the bike was unridable with the harder rear tire.
*Of course, dual compound tires should never, ever, ever be mounted as a front tire
Vorsprung released their first coil shock with some unique features that sets it apart from the rest of the shocks out there.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-vorsprungs-new-tellum-coil-shock.html
Certain kinds of rock and most roots, and it all gets much worse if it's wet. There's one local trail (Bitterbrush in Lyons, CO) that's mostly rock and Maxxis DC has no grip on it, and when wet it's scary. To make things worse it's not even that durable, the sideknobs on the Aggressor tires get undercut and start to fold over pretty quickly.
They had a big hand is starting the modern geo wave with the Process line, honestly don't understand why they fell off like they did, because the bikes were a ton of fun.
As someone who actually likes having to change tires so they can try more different tires, the Conti rear DH soft compounds have been wearing frustratingly (half kidding) slow. Grip is comparable if not better than maxxis maxxterra and the knobs barely show signs of wear after a season of northeast bike park and granite slab riding. Pretty impressive and good for the wallet. Just put a DH casing soft compound argotal on the back of my levo so interested to see how the taller knobs wear.