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Ill bet you 6 doughnuts right now, we see it somewhere else. And you can run other shocks, its not like we are talking about a "brain" equipped Spesh, or Treks Supercal (that could be reason to whinge) You can clearly run an Ohlins shock, and re-tune nearly anything to work!

from jason's vital review which has exactly what you're asking..... "include tighter writing, more of the reviewer's personal voice, way less mealy language of it's claimed it might it may." to not include the marketing claims from a brand in a review seems the wrong way to go. putting down a brand's claim with a reviewer's experience could justify or negate the marketing hype. isn't that the whole point of the review? to see if the brand/bike is full of shit or not?

Im so utterly baffled by the comments on the Stumpy Its not a proprietary shock, its simply only currently available on the Stumpy, give it a hot minute, and I bet you'll see it available.... Its not exclusively running Fox suspension, as there is an Ohlins model available....Which should mean that both coil is acceptable, and pretty much any other shock will work (might require an appropriate tune) Mullet is an option on S3 and up sizing.... simply buy some stick on cable guides and run whatever you want on it. All of you "cry out" for external routing anyway...

My buddy runs his shock at like 35% sag. He HAS to be bottoming out that thing so hard, so often. I think a lot of folks either a) don’t mind the feeling of bottoming out constantly or b) don’t mind riding a harsh over-sprung shock. I’ll tell you that the people involved in making this bike are looking to make bikes that feel good to ride and perform well. The problem with solving the problem on the damper end is that different rider spring rates require different tunes, and that just doesn’t work for the majority of riders. Sure...

teamrobot set a record for forum thumbs up, so here's a preview of what's to come (unlisted, only for the special people in this forum topic) regarding taking out pawls and testing ochain.

seeing High engagement hubs on modern bikes always have me thinking 'why pay so much for fancy plush suspension & then Stiffen it with a high engagement hub' I went through a went stage of wheel building when i had my META'AM'22, Had high anti squat - I couldnt understand why my bike felt so terrible through the fast rough compared to the same bike my friend had(different wheels) i built some nice I9 wheels and then a dtswiss 240 with 54t Took me untill i read DTswiss's website about pedal kick with high engagement and suspension/chain forces and for...

The stumpy EVO i had similar experience with DT hubs, Went all the way to 54T and instantly noticed the pedal feedback, had to drop to 36 to find a balance Just recently when changing from Trace hub to a vault, instantly noticeable... suspension felt stiffer and less free.... put other wheel back on and it was smooooooth again

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Chainforces and suspension movements are not independent…?

Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see if the Ochain really works as advertised?

One the topic of aerodynamic clothing the course ski racing can be informative. FIS has extensive rules governing the permeability of gs suits and the clothing that can be worn underneath as impermeable rubberized layers are more aerodynamic than other woven cloths. FIS tests suits and prohibits the wearing of swim suits and similar materials underneath suits. one interesting thing to think about is training speed. In ski racing a run in a gs suit is ~5-10% faster, a difference that is noticeable and sometimes disorienting if you don’t train in a suit. Even if the fox kits aren’t legal...