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Without defining the nature of an impact, force measurements would be required to know which transmits the most force to the rider. Now if you say the impact in question is a series of roots that are 50 mm tall, then it is accurate to say that the closer the deflection is to 50 mm then the lower the amount of force transmitted to the rider. Assuming it’s in phase with the roots of course. The graph in question here seems to show an extremely small root or something similar. An example of where you need to know force is...

One of the mechanics was rebuilding his wheel using the park tool video where they tell you to put the tape on as a "reference spoke".

At this point I think Loic's mechanic is just finding new ways to troll us bike nerds.

Screw cables. I want my next bike's gears to shift with rods and pistons powered by coal fired steam. And I want my wheels made from wood thank you very much.

Yes, thereis. Trying to say you're not being forced to run transmission on a bike that forces you to run transmission ONLY at the moment is a pretty high amount of noggin joggin. Otherwise the bike really does look great. Once theres a version available with mechanical routing I'm all for it. I was more commenting the on the drivetrain, not the rear shock. I like the idea of it, and I like that it's a proprietary design with a standard sizing for other shock options. Funny how the design team built so many options on it, and yet took...

"I'm disappointed in all of us here" Have a listen to yourself. People are entitled to opinions that differ from yours.

from jason's vital review which has exactly what you're asking..... "include tighter writing, more of the reviewer's personal voice, way less mealy language of it's claimed it might it may." to not include the marketing claims from a brand in a review seems the wrong way to go. putting down a brand's claim with a reviewer's experience could justify or negate the marketing hype. isn't that the whole point of the review? to see if the brand/bike is full of shit or not?

Differential F/R wheel speed as it's shown in the recent stumpjumper review is a bogus way to measure traction in a mountain bike. Many here may not have read the whitepaper (ha!) for the newest Diverge frame, but it is chock full of pseudoscience b.s. that would be a judgement call between incompetence and academic fraud if the two researchers that are supposed to have collaborated on it published anything like the summary being used by the marketing team. I think Vital and other mtb media shouldn't be copy-pasting this kind of stuff without a level of critical distance from...

Because they’re relatively expensive and people want to point out everything negative about it even if it’s only based on personal preference. You are correct, the bike is looking to be a killer all rounder with a few interesting designs features but at the end of the day, they’re going to sell heaps of them because they appeal to the majority of the market. That’s the point and why Specialized is successful.

Im so utterly baffled by the comments on the Stumpy Its not a proprietary shock, its simply only currently available on the Stumpy, give it a hot minute, and I bet you'll see it available.... Its not exclusively running Fox suspension, as there is an Ohlins model available....Which should mean that both coil is acceptable, and pretty much any other shock will work (might require an appropriate tune) Mullet is an option on S3 and up sizing.... simply buy some stick on cable guides and run whatever you want on it. All of you "cry out" for external routing anyway...

Shoutout for wheelsize, which is to say that a modern size-small Scout is still going to feel different than your SX. 26" wheels with single ply tires are A LOT lighter than 29" wheels with trail or DH casing tires. We all rode crazy light wheels and tires for a long time before we got smart about pinchflats and dents, but the tradeoff is that you will never get a big heavy 29" or mullet wheelset to feel as light and playful and flickable as a 26" bike with EXO tires. Two sides of the same coin, sort of like...

Thanks for asking! It would be hard to say much positive about a single part on this bike (maybe a Chromag pedal fan gives the Scarabs a pass); the shock is laughable, and you can tick parts off finding every one less good than what's offered today. But as a whole it worked surprisingly well and I loved it. If I have an insight here (and I'm not sure I do), it's that bikes I've ridden since then have phenomenal sell sheets and each individual component has a great marketing story, a history of winning, a legion of online fans...

after les gets

Read the white paper. There is less time bottoming out and less major bottom out events claimed. What’s revolutionary about the shock isn’t how it’s feels for the 70%, like an Enduro, it’s how for that last 30% it doesn’t feel like a 145mm bike slamming into or riding at bottom out. I think this is one of those developments that we are going to have to ride to understand.

Saint M820 was 2012, so 12 years.

Huh? How long have Saints be around for, 11 years now? And Trickstuff are the ones resting on their laurels. Good joke

This is the best take on here. Bike companies make things to make money, they aren't your friend, they don't care how rad you get or how slow you are, they just want your cash. If that means making a boring, comfortable, capable bike, then they'll make it.

It's fascinating to guess at what Spesh was thinking with the Stumpjumper. I think the key is to remember that, at the end of the day, bike companies (especially large bike companies) exist to make money, not make bikes for the people that hang out on bike forums. Riffing off the Toyota Tacoma/4runner analogy and making up numbers, 95% of those vehicles are pavement princesses. People buy them and use them for pavement and highway driving, but they don't actually perform very well at that. Similarly, 95% of the people that buy a carbon Stumpjumper never ride it anywhere close...

To add to the rumors, Does the new Stumpy being wireless only indicate that a shimano wireless drivetrain is near? Seems odd to restrict the SJ to one manufacturer only for drivetrain. Specialized likely knows more than we do.

Not to turn this into another brake discussion but I appriciate that they havent felt the need to change things every few years. I am very happy with my Maximas and even though I've had them since launch, and is the biggest nerd, I've not wanted any others. From what I've read about the Lewis is that almost everyone just leaves them with the same leverange setting as trickstuffs are any way...