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robrixon Liked a reply to forum topic Tweaking Norco Sight Mix and Match Linkages

5/25/2026 9:31am
Double checked my real-life measurements on drawing below - after scaling it using the bearing dimensions - and they correlate pretty closely. Part No.8 is the RH lower shock mount.
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CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

1 day ago
Entire force under the curve is the drop to flat type scenario. For square edge hits you can still look at area under the curve, though. It just starts from whatever the initial position of the shock is instead of zero. If you were to say you’re cruising along and then slam into a really big bump that’s big enough...

TheSuspensionLabNZ Liked a reply to forum topic Kinematics

5/25/2026 9:06am
Here goes the results from sticking an image in to Linkage, so there is potential for some error but is close to what I've seen elsewhere and shows 26% progression, but most of that is early on as Cascade predicted
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CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

1 day ago
It depends on the shape of the spring curve for the air spring. The curve has a vague S shape to it. Initially it will be stiffer than a coil, then softer, and then stiffer towards end of travel (or not in some cases). A small volume air shock can have an insane amount of ramp to offset that mid-stroke...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

1 day ago
Don’t have the dimensions for the V4 offering so not able to plug that in. I’d imagine it’s like the previous ones where the majority of the progression happens earlier in travel though.

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

5/23/2026 10:43am
HBO can exert anywhere between way less and way more force than a rubber bumper since it’s dependent on the speed of compression. And then, like you said, it doesn’t increase rebound speed compared to a rubber bumper. The one argument you could maybe make for rubber bumpers is that there are some scenarios, like a long sweeping berm, where...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

5/22/2026 10:52am
A bunch of comparisons mainly looking at wheel force because that's what you really feel not the leverage curve. 160 mm bikes with different progression amounts normalized for identical sag at the wheel. Including -4%. The wheel force plot is purely looking at wheel force due to the spring. As you can see, there is a very significant difference at...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

5/22/2026 10:21am
@Shinook copying this over to here so as to not continue blowing up tech rumors... This doesn't match my experiences. I tried both air and coil shocks on my Murmur and preferred the coil by a very wide margin. It felt absolutely horrible on air for me. I had 0 issues with bottoming out on rocky sections and pretty much...

FerrousBueller Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 7:31am
You called?
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matmattmatthew Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 7:31am
Jesus, sorry I asked about a coil shock on the new Tallboy.
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Running less sag makes a bike track poorly on account of losing contact with the ground anytime there’s an indent the wheel has to go over. You see the same exact issue with people lifting vehicles to drive off road. They throw preload collars on and all of the sudden they feel the truck is harsher. The spring rate hasn’t...
You have less to push against with a more linear bike. If you look at wheel force normalized for sag it all makes more sense than just looking at leverage curve. The wheel force is always identical at the sag point when normalized for sag. The more progressive layout will have a higher wheel force past sag and lower wheel...
25% has been the middle ground for a while I feel like. The Tallboy and recent Specialized stuff are the big ones that come to mind that are this low. I was actually thinking it would be amusing to make a Genie retrofit kit for the Tallboy. But yeah I think some of it is targeted demographic. The downfall of...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

5/21/2026 11:09am
Lower anti-squat pairs best with a more progressive bike due to the increase in mid-stroke support. If there's more support when you're bobbing, you don't bob as much so less anti-squat is fine. The actual leverage ratio number isn't hugely important so long as the shock is tuned properly for it and the rider is able to get settings within...
I'll be honest, 15% is pretty low. Not V1 Sentinel low but getting there. Definitely down in the "huh" range. The only way I'd ever expect to get that to not bottom out in the parking lot with a coil is run practically no sag or run an unreasonable amount of damping. I had a V2 Hightower as a personal...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

5/20/2026 9:08pm
There's an argument that if anti-squat is too high then it won't allow the suspension to conform to the trail when you are on the pedals. In some scenario that increase in traction can be beneficial even though the suspension might be a little more prone to movement. What exactly is the optimal amount of anti-squat is hard to nail...

jalopyj Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/20/2026 11:37am
@CascadeComponents right now...
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I don’t have the dimensions for both the mullet and 29 Sight set ups so can’t comment with 100% certainty. That said, typically mullet links on Horst bikes makes them less progressive. The lower shock mount position can be used to control progression. I would assume the mullet rocker link makes it less progressive and the lower shock mount is...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

4/30/2026 9:23am
Even with a single pivot that directly actuates the shock it's more of a good approximation. The swing arm angle is a factor. The extreme angle being the swing rear axle is directly above the main pivot. In that case it doesn't matter what angle the shock is at because any vertical load is incapable of creating a moment. I...