Please point out the actual insult and/or demonization? Buddy had a flippant, incredulous tone, and suggested I don't know what I'm talking about so buddy got a wee bit of sarcasm and hyperbole in response. It's clear from this thread (and about a million others) across the internet, that people are struggling to get a good bleed on Mavens. This struggle is even noted on some of the professional reviews as well. Objectively, the Maven bleed process is finicky, annoying, and messy relative to most other brakes in the market. P.s. you're high if you think a bleed cup makes...