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This is probably more relevant for the main tech rumors thread, which has evolved into pretty much just the stream of consciousness for us vitalers regardless of topic, but what if we had a bot that counted comments, and once a specific topic gets more than 5 comments in a 24 hour period it auot-comments and suggests a new topic for it?

My hands started bleeding just looking at these pictures

Could for sure. But generally speaking, if a manufacturer is outsourcing a portion of the process it's not because it's going to add costs.

Again, coming from the manufacturer's perspective. You mention that "outsourcing a step will add a ton to the price". In reality, it's often outsourcing a step that saves considerable time and money. One specific example I'll share would be our shock shafts. We used to machine our steel shafts, complete with in-machine diamond burnishing process to the critical outside surface. The burnishing process was slow and required constant monitoring of the coolant ratio used for cooling and lubricating this process. Now, we outsource this step using an OD grinding operation to achieve the same results at a much lower cost...

Clear and Black anodize are extremely consistent and have a low scrap rate. It's only when you get into the red/blue/green/etc colors that matching becomes more challenging. We use automated polishing systems here at our facility, so it's very rare to have a QC problem related to that part of the operation. Darren

Our fork crowns and axle lugs are sandblasted prior to Cerakote. We also polish tens of thousands of aluminum parts per month here at our facility that are then sent to an outside vendor for anodizing. I was just providing my experience as a manufacturer. I wouldn't be able to comment on what a supplier might charge. As a component manufacturer, polishing and anodize comes at a lower cost. Darren

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I've been riding them for a few seasons. Pretty great. I treat them like garbage and have not had any problems.

amazing.. maybe overlord read this and make a change haha..I just checked last night, even the compression bolt at the lever from the mavens fit shimano... not sure it was mentioned before.

havent really found any decent prices for full power bikes, best options are things like the turbo levo - none with a bosch motor. Also not sure i wanna go for a heavy full power e-bike. I mostly just want a bike thatll take me up fire roads so i can get more descent laps in a day, having it ride similarly to a normal bike seems more appealing than a ton of power.

Are you guys actually arguing about if a guy that works at a different website reviewing stuff is cool or not? 🤣

Re: recent geopolitical happenings With the Straight of Hormuz and Red Sea both being closed to tanker traffic, we will be seeing some very large increases in oil prices, at least in the short term. In my 30+ years tracking bicycle retail trends, we usually see an uptick in bicycle sales when the price of gasoline becomes painful for commuters who have options besides driving to work. The oil prices increases in 2004 (it went above $50 a barrel for a while in the fall, IIRC) was one of the things that allowed a lot of shops to survive that...

Wait a sec… tariffs are taxes paid by US importers and will eventually be passed on to the end consumer in the form of higher prices? Get outta here with that nonsense!

Even though a certain person in DC wants us to believe otherwise...

Run mavens first. Get a feel for them. Then try shmaven for a good comparison. If you don’t like it, try Shigura.

Please point out the actual insult and/or demonization? Buddy had a flippant, incredulous tone, and suggested I don't know what I'm talking about so buddy got a wee bit of sarcasm and hyperbole in response. It's clear from this thread (and about a million others) across the internet, that people are struggling to get a good bleed on Mavens. This struggle is even noted on some of the professional reviews as well. Objectively, the Maven bleed process is finicky, annoying, and messy relative to most other brakes in the market. P.s. you're high if you think a bleed cup makes...

your currency is not much worth anymore, it lost like 25% in just 4 years against the swiss franc, what do you people expect things to cost when you import everything and the fascist king wants his cut on top?

I'm sure I read they were going to keep making the A1 generation calipers/brakes etc going forward for people who wanted that.

It would be a neat trick if they simply combined 157mm hub shells with 148mm axles. I don't know if this is what has happened - just speculating.