2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

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Ironically Sram could sell a snap into tungsten insert and it would probably sell out. No idea how having that would be for the given volume...

Ironically Sram could sell a snap into tungsten insert and it would probably sell out. No idea how having that would be for the given volume but who cares right? 

Edit: Well I did not realize that the amount to fill that bottom bracket would probably weigh over 25 pounds so disregard that dumb idea haha

A 4" x 0.7" diameter rod of tungsten would weigh about a pound.

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Why not, instead of crank arms, make crank discs? Solid 304 stainless steel. You could put several holes in there, offset, so you can choose different...

Why not, instead of crank arms, make crank discs? Solid 304 stainless steel. You could put several holes in there, offset, so you can choose different “crank lengths” just by switching your pedals into different threaded holes. Adds weight, centered right around the bottom bracket. Ultimate bash guard as well! I should be an engineer. I’d succeed big time (or not).

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Until you lean your bike into a turn with your inside pedal up and still smash the crankarm/disk into the ground and go flying...It should would...

Until you lean your bike into a turn with your inside pedal up and still smash the crankarm/disk into the ground and go flying...

It should would look interesting though.

Or ride up/down a big step/suspension bottoming out, casing a jump… but that’s why this whole thing functions as a bash guard as well. Perfect lol

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Never thought I would long for the days of gearbox debate on the tech forum but here we are. 

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You could just use lead shot for fishing and then use an expander plug to stop up the hole. Might rattle a bit but you could...

You could just use lead shot for fishing and then use an expander plug to stop up the hole. Might rattle a bit but you could wrap it up in tape to make it tubed and mute the sound. 

No, the rattle is the point!  Like a dead blow!  TMD  IN 360 DEGREES! 

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This is the first 204 prototype back in early 1998

 

Tomac X Lawwill🥰

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X Bradbury . Dream team

Let’s see a new lawwill floating axle design, someone with linkage tell us about the kinematic, 

Add a German gearbox and call it a patriot. 

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It seems we're in the beginning of the reverse-weight-weenie era, in which bicycle riders will be asked to pay more and more money just to add grams to their bicycles.

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Cube just released a bunch of new bikes, the new downhill bike looks good (especially at the price) and it has a very interesting feature, it seems like the BB position is adjustable! It's a bit cryptic from their text but this is what I understand from their text and photos. It's the first time I see this 

https://www.cube.eu/fr-fr/cube-two15-slx-deepteal-n-clouds/1174600

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There does seem to be something there. 

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Cube just released a bunch of new bikes, the new downhill bike looks good (especially at the price) and it has a very interesting feature, it...

Cube just released a bunch of new bikes, the new downhill bike looks good (especially at the price) and it has a very interesting feature, it seems like the BB position is adjustable! It's a bit cryptic from their text but this is what I understand from their text and photos. It's the first time I see this 

https://www.cube.eu/fr-fr/cube-two15-slx-deepteal-n-clouds/1174600

Interesting, it mentions the "horizontally adjustable BB position" but not much beyond that?


Also this bit will be a deal killer for a lot of riders out there.
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Interesting, it mentions the "horizontally adjustable BB position" but not much beyond that?Also this bit will be a deal killer for a lot of riders out...

Interesting, it mentions the "horizontally adjustable BB position" but not much beyond that?


Also this bit will be a deal killer for a lot of riders out there.
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I’m well under that and the fact that a DH bike has a max weight at all kills the deal for me.

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Looks like all their bikes are designed for the 100 kg limit which is a bit interesting as the default is usually 125 for the complete system weight or 135 kg in case it's an ebike.

The wording in this case is specifically 100 kg system weight which is a non go for most XL riders. 

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Per the pdf linked in the system weight chart,it doesn't include the bike's weight. System weight is 120kg for the current Two15

https://file.cube.eu/azwesc1xfg346/media/0e/cd/cc/1781257423/Systemgewicht_Classic_2026_EN.pdf?ts=1781257423

Still a curious choice seeing how popular the Two15 is for park rental fleets in Europe

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I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going to desintegrate under someone 120kg. 

There is no mention of the adjustable BB in the geo chart, I can’t understand how companies can be so bad a communicatif basic info about their bikes 

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Adjustable rear-center without any change to kinematics, travel or wheelbase, clever. 

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It's a pretty rad system. My Vessel dh bike has 16mm of r/c adjustment in 3mm increments with an 8mm bb height adjustment that is independent of any suspension kinematics due to BB system design. It fun to mess with this stuff and not have it impact other areas of performance. Truely isolating the variables, as best as possible that is. Really help to hammer home how much the fc/rc bias really impacts the bikes ability to turn even if the wb is pushing 1350mm

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I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going...

I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going to desintegrate under someone 120kg. 

There is no mention of the adjustable BB in the geo chart, I can’t understand how companies can be so bad a communicatif basic info about their bikes 

As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better than it was in the past but it still happens.

 

Earlier this week I cracked the damper body on my DHX2 from JRA. Who does that? 

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Jotegr wrote:
As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better...

As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better than it was in the past but it still happens.

 

Earlier this week I cracked the damper body on my DHX2 from JRA. Who does that? 

The head or the tube? Cracks in the heads have been a thing ever since they were released. 

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Jotegr wrote:
As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better...

As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better than it was in the past but it still happens.

 

Earlier this week I cracked the damper body on my DHX2 from JRA. Who does that? 

rgard wrote:

The head or the tube? Cracks in the heads have been a thing ever since they were released. 

hairline cracks around the middle of the tube

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I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity talking about a bunch of different suspension designs, the engineering thought behind each, and talks about some specifics that a lot of other suspension chat sort of ignores or intentionally leaves out.

He also mentions that the Four Bar Flex Stay works really well for an ASR and the Sixfinity works really well for longer-travel bikes. He also talks a bit about the Switch Infinity. He doesn't specifically say anything (yet, I'm not 100% of the way through the listen) about short travel trail bikes. I wonder if that means they'll be using two systems and going to four-bar for the shorter travel trail bikes, maybe they're dropping their shorter travel bikes all-together, or maybe Sixfinity will be used all the way across the non-XC bikes.

Rumors and innovations can sometimes be inferred by what ISN'T being said as much as what IS being said.

It's super informative and really digs into the thought process and goals behind designing suspension systems and how the numbers aren't the complete story.

https://youtu.be/URjie8hlZyw?si=_gu7uQ2DmkjfDqZt

 

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I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity...

I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity talking about a bunch of different suspension designs, the engineering thought behind each, and talks about some specifics that a lot of other suspension chat sort of ignores or intentionally leaves out.

He also mentions that the Four Bar Flex Stay works really well for an ASR and the Sixfinity works really well for longer-travel bikes. He also talks a bit about the Switch Infinity. He doesn't specifically say anything (yet, I'm not 100% of the way through the listen) about short travel trail bikes. I wonder if that means they'll be using two systems and going to four-bar for the shorter travel trail bikes, maybe they're dropping their shorter travel bikes all-together, or maybe Sixfinity will be used all the way across the non-XC bikes.

Rumors and innovations can sometimes be inferred by what ISN'T being said as much as what IS being said.

It's super informative and really digs into the thought process and goals behind designing suspension systems and how the numbers aren't the complete story.

https://youtu.be/URjie8hlZyw?si=_gu7uQ2DmkjfDqZt

 

I've heard from a few different places their "ST" should be dropping sometime soon

Corrected - “MT”

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I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity...

I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity talking about a bunch of different suspension designs, the engineering thought behind each, and talks about some specifics that a lot of other suspension chat sort of ignores or intentionally leaves out.

He also mentions that the Four Bar Flex Stay works really well for an ASR and the Sixfinity works really well for longer-travel bikes. He also talks a bit about the Switch Infinity. He doesn't specifically say anything (yet, I'm not 100% of the way through the listen) about short travel trail bikes. I wonder if that means they'll be using two systems and going to four-bar for the shorter travel trail bikes, maybe they're dropping their shorter travel bikes all-together, or maybe Sixfinity will be used all the way across the non-XC bikes.

Rumors and innovations can sometimes be inferred by what ISN'T being said as much as what IS being said.

It's super informative and really digs into the thought process and goals behind designing suspension systems and how the numbers aren't the complete story.

https://youtu.be/URjie8hlZyw?si=_gu7uQ2DmkjfDqZt

 

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I've heard from a few different places their "ST" should be dropping sometime soon

Corrected - “MT”

From what I know the MT is a thing this year, the ST is still a mistery 

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I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity...

I posted this in the Suspension Component Technology thread but I thought it would be worthy of a post here. It's the designer of Yeti's Sixfinity talking about a bunch of different suspension designs, the engineering thought behind each, and talks about some specifics that a lot of other suspension chat sort of ignores or intentionally leaves out.

He also mentions that the Four Bar Flex Stay works really well for an ASR and the Sixfinity works really well for longer-travel bikes. He also talks a bit about the Switch Infinity. He doesn't specifically say anything (yet, I'm not 100% of the way through the listen) about short travel trail bikes. I wonder if that means they'll be using two systems and going to four-bar for the shorter travel trail bikes, maybe they're dropping their shorter travel bikes all-together, or maybe Sixfinity will be used all the way across the non-XC bikes.

Rumors and innovations can sometimes be inferred by what ISN'T being said as much as what IS being said.

It's super informative and really digs into the thought process and goals behind designing suspension systems and how the numbers aren't the complete story.

https://youtu.be/URjie8hlZyw?si=_gu7uQ2DmkjfDqZt

 

2supple wrote:

I've heard from a few different places their "ST" should be dropping sometime soon

Corrected - “MT”

Evil96 wrote:

From what I know the MT is a thing this year, the ST is still a mistery 

As I got a little further into the conversation, the host mentions something about the "new range of bikes" and Peter says something along the lines of "talking specifically about the LT..."

That makes it sound like a few bikes rather than a single bike or a pair of bikes. I wouldn't call two bikes a "range" and I wouldn't have used the word "new" for bikes that have been out for a year already (the LTe and MTe), so that feels a little like the host knows more than the guest wants to reveal.

Speculation continues.

Also an interesting thing they mentioned in the podcast: Yeti is doing two different sizes of swingarms and different link sizes along with different front triangle sizes and mounting points to make the bike function and fit more ideally across the size range. I think most companies have said they don't do different swingarm sizes but get their different chainstay lengths just by different front triangle mounting points (and some have said different link sizes while others keep their links the same across the entire line). Manufacturing different sizes of multiple components could definitely explain why the price of the LT is so high compared to other bikes.

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Jotegr wrote:
As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better...

As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better than it was in the past but it still happens.

 

Earlier this week I cracked the damper body on my DHX2 from JRA. Who does that? 

Hi, Me, I did that too! To be fair it was an older shock, but the upper bearing housing (~2019 era DHX2 with the cast upper eyelet) cracked from the inside out where the damper body threaded into it. Noticed a small dab of oil then the next run had oil dripping down the frame. Still a tiny pinhole but enough to total the shock. 

Replaced it with a Float X2 and after a couple warranties, sold the bike as soon as I heard Guerilla Gravity was no more. R. I. P. 

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2supple wrote:

I've heard from a few different places their "ST" should be dropping sometime soon

Corrected - “MT”

Evil96 wrote:

From what I know the MT is a thing this year, the ST is still a mistery 

As I got a little further into the conversation, the host mentions something about the "new range of bikes" and Peter says something along the lines...

As I got a little further into the conversation, the host mentions something about the "new range of bikes" and Peter says something along the lines of "talking specifically about the LT..."

That makes it sound like a few bikes rather than a single bike or a pair of bikes. I wouldn't call two bikes a "range" and I wouldn't have used the word "new" for bikes that have been out for a year already (the LTe and MTe), so that feels a little like the host knows more than the guest wants to reveal.

Speculation continues.

Also an interesting thing they mentioned in the podcast: Yeti is doing two different sizes of swingarms and different link sizes along with different front triangle sizes and mounting points to make the bike function and fit more ideally across the size range. I think most companies have said they don't do different swingarm sizes but get their different chainstay lengths just by different front triangle mounting points (and some have said different link sizes while others keep their links the same across the entire line). Manufacturing different sizes of multiple components could definitely explain why the price of the LT is so high compared to other bikes.

That's cool! I didn't realize they made two different swingarms.

I'm guessing Yeti concluded that the two unique swingarm molds were necessary because of the large variation in chainstay length they've rolled out with the LT, from as short as 439mm on the small all the way up to 475mm on the XL, which is a lot to squeak out of one swingarm by moving around the mounting points on the front triangle.

I know it has +10mm modular dropouts to account for some of that change in rear center length, but leverage is leverage and the same swingarm with an extra 36mm of leverage at the back wheel is going to behave very differently. Plus the kinematic considerations of wildly different pivot placements when you shift a swingarm 26mm forward or rearward, too.

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Something I noticed today, On the Santa Cruz bike archive the 5010 is not listed as a current model, just up to 2025. I haven't heard anything about it being discontinued from my SC rep, but none of the other current models are marked like that in the archive. 

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I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going...

I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going to desintegrate under someone 120kg. 

There is no mention of the adjustable BB in the geo chart, I can’t understand how companies can be so bad a communicatif basic info about their bikes 

Jotegr wrote:
As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better...

As someone who is ~100kg, a lot of bikes do disintegrate around this weight when ridden frequently at the bike park. It's gotten a lot better than it was in the past but it still happens.

 

Earlier this week I cracked the damper body on my DHX2 from JRA. Who does that? 

and here we have 50-60kg kids cracking alot clash's - im 100kg almost on the dot and Broke two headtubes on the Meta TR - all while riding more mellower trails.

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Something I noticed today, On the Santa Cruz bike archive the 5010 is not listed as a current model, just up to 2025. I haven't heard...

Something I noticed today, On the Santa Cruz bike archive the 5010 is not listed as a current model, just up to 2025. I haven't heard anything about it being discontinued from my SC rep, but none of the other current models are marked like that in the archive. 

I was under the impression that it was absorbed into the Tallboy 6 model, but that's only what I heaed mentioned on a podcast or something similar 

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I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going...

I suppose the weight limit is just one more argument for them to refuse warranty claims rather than a strict limit, the bike is not going to desintegrate under someone 120kg. 

There is no mention of the adjustable BB in the geo chart, I can’t understand how companies can be so bad a communicatif basic info about their bikes 

It’s quite possibly related to whatever testing they’ve done and their insurance.

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