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4/21/2026 2:20pm Edited Date/Time 4/21/2026 2:30pm

Looking at the diagram on another post, how l9ng before someone offers a kit to make the primary drive a single chain to save some weight? 

I waiting for that gearbox conversion to make our predictions true.

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4/21/2026 2:41pm

Looking at the diagram on another post, how l9ng before someone offers a kit to make the primary drive a single chain to save some weight? 

Carraig042 wrote:

Wonder if you would actually need much of anything to do that. Probably could take one chain off with no modifications? 

 

I had the same thought.. I guess they  are putting extra weight near the BB while getting around a potential patent issue..

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4/21/2026 3:23pm
saskskier wrote:

And add a proper xl size

That was something I was always peeved about. But at least they made one small enough for my wife. Not that I can afford this one, but at least one would fit me (and not her this time). 

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4/21/2026 3:33pm Edited Date/Time 4/21/2026 3:33pm

If the new Demo weighs 41.5 pounds complete, does anyone know how the $6500 frame/crank/chainring combo weighs?

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4/21/2026 3:38pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

If the new Demo weighs 41.5 pounds complete, does anyone know how the $6500 frame/crank/chainring combo weighs?

I saw it listed at 12 something pounds. 

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4/21/2026 3:39pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

If the new Demo weighs 41.5 pounds complete, does anyone know how the $6500 frame/crank/chainring combo weighs?

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4/21/2026 3:43pm

I skimmed through (both) service manuals, and there is...........a lot. 🧐 I'm still not sure about a couple of things-

How is the BB bearings preloaded/adjusted? And is it just me or is the DS crank hanging waaaaay out from the BB bearing? I guess if they've gone back to a steel spindle it might be ok, but I would still be nervous about a worn BB scoring the spindle and causing a failure

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4/21/2026 3:53pm

I waiting for that gearbox conversion to make our predictions true.

No room, the unnecessary linkage is in the way

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4/21/2026 3:58pm
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I think this is as close to a „for racing purposes only“ bike we’ll get from specialized. Who is the realistic target group for this? A...

I think this is as close to a „for racing purposes only“ bike we’ll get from specialized. Who is the realistic target group for this? A few age groupers, the occasional dentist and maybe some kids sponsored by their rich parents. The ones who want it will buy it anyways, other than that I see it as an engineering exercise and podium representation at the World Cup for spesh. 

Low production numbers, complex molds and layup, high structural requirements and engineering costs, it was never gonna be price competitive and i don’t think specialized will care about the hardtail dad bods in the pb comment section moaning. 

You can theoretically buy the Pinarello F HR 3D that was used for the hour record for like 28k € because of UCI rules, which for me falls in a similar category. 

Plenty of cheaper well working alternatives if you just want a park bike. 

I predict they will sell every one they make. 

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4/21/2026 4:00pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

If the new Demo weighs 41.5 pounds complete, does anyone know how the $6500 frame/crank/chainring combo weighs?

chriskief wrote:
Screenshot 2026-04-21 at 6.39.21%E2%80%AFPM

I recognize that's not an apples to apples frame weight because most frame weights don't include a dedicated crank and chainring.

An 83mm Saint crank and chainring is 931 grams (FC-M825, 36T, 170mm) and a matching 83mm BB is 96 grams, which is 1027 grams total. 

So a comparable frame weight with a shock would be 10.5 pounds, which isn't light, but it isn't terrible either. It's closer to 11 pounds if you were to build up a normal frame with a super light crank and chainring.

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4/21/2026 4:19pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

If the new Demo weighs 41.5 pounds complete, does anyone know how the $6500 frame/crank/chainring combo weighs?

chriskief wrote:
Screenshot 2026-04-21 at 6.39.21%E2%80%AFPM
TEAMROBOT wrote:
I recognize that's not an apples to apples frame weight because most frame weights don't include a dedicated crank and chainring.An 83mm Saint crank and chainring...

I recognize that's not an apples to apples frame weight because most frame weights don't include a dedicated crank and chainring.

An 83mm Saint crank and chainring is 931 grams (FC-M825, 36T, 170mm) and a matching 83mm BB is 96 grams, which is 1027 grams total. 

So a comparable frame weight with a shock would be 10.5 pounds, which isn't light, but it isn't terrible either. It's closer to 11 pounds if you were to build up a normal frame with a super light crank and chainring.

The last carbon Demo had a tendency to crack, guessing they've beefed this one up... a lot.

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4/21/2026 5:03pm

And dh racers aren't looking for the lightest bike anymore/if ever. 

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4/21/2026 5:34pm

Saw this in the background of an Instagram IMG 9094 0.png?VersionId=8GXNvckEx5Crh4SadHstory, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

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4/21/2026 5:52pm
29 wrote:
I think this is as close to a „for racing purposes only“ bike we’ll get from specialized. Who is the realistic target group for this? A...

I think this is as close to a „for racing purposes only“ bike we’ll get from specialized. Who is the realistic target group for this? A few age groupers, the occasional dentist and maybe some kids sponsored by their rich parents. The ones who want it will buy it anyways, other than that I see it as an engineering exercise and podium representation at the World Cup for spesh. 

Low production numbers, complex molds and layup, high structural requirements and engineering costs, it was never gonna be price competitive and i don’t think specialized will care about the hardtail dad bods in the pb comment section moaning. 

You can theoretically buy the Pinarello F HR 3D that was used for the hour record for like 28k € because of UCI rules, which for me falls in a similar category. 

Plenty of cheaper well working alternatives if you just want a park bike. 

owl-x wrote:

I predict they will sell every one they make. 

Yup I agree, I also predict the goal of this is to sell more Levos though. And maybe be a sneaky test bed for future products - but either way, no one makes money selling DH bikes so there has to be a bigger picture for making a bike like this

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4/21/2026 5:55pm
bikelurker wrote:

But marz 58 was 27.5" only and that casting did not get the update

True, but that doesn't mean it will inherently stay that way. 

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4/21/2026 7:18pm
ufka_pen15 wrote:
Reece got something on the dorado going on. Legs swapped + addon on the lower leg.Either just mass damper or something like Bos did years ago?

Reece got something on the dorado going on. Legs swapped + addon on the lower leg.

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Either just mass damper or something like Bos did years ago?

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Is it just me or does this front wheel actually look awfully big on this Dorado? 32’ wheel on a modified Dorado? 

I had the exact same thought. 

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4/21/2026 9:56pm
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Saw this in the background of an Instagram story, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

Saw this in the background of an Instagram IMG 9094 0.png?VersionId=8GXNvckEx5Crh4SadHstory, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

That is correct. Should be out soon

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4/21/2026 11:52pm

Guys, imagine specialized replaces the two chains with 1 shiftable chain in the front housing for the enduro.
Classified hub, dh groupset, front shifting, that would be buck wild

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4/22/2026 12:08am

Do you really want to shift across the whole cassette in the rear to get to one lighter or heavier gear every time? Do you really want a 1:2 or even higher planetary drivetrain adding drag in the lightest gears where you would spend the most time? 

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4/22/2026 12:13am

No, but specialized could :insert goldblum meme:

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I skimmed through (both) service manuals, and there is...........a lot. 🧐 I'm still not sure about a couple of things-How is the BB bearings preloaded/adjusted? And...

I skimmed through (both) service manuals, and there is...........a lot. 🧐 I'm still not sure about a couple of things-

How is the BB bearings preloaded/adjusted? And is it just me or is the DS crank hanging waaaaay out from the BB bearing? I guess if they've gone back to a steel spindle it might be ok, but I would still be nervous about a worn BB scoring the spindle and causing a failure

Here's a look at one of said service manuals for those who enjoy self-flagellation...

PDF placeholder - HIGHGEAR_SERVICE_AND_MAINTENANCE_GUIDE_ENGLISH.pdf
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4/22/2026 1:54am

I just got word that Scott is about to release the next generation of the Spark RC. Feel free to wildly speculate what wheel size it's running on...

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4/22/2026 2:18am
iceman2058 wrote:

Here's a look at one of said service manuals for those who enjoy self-flagellation...

PDF placeholder - HIGHGEAR_SERVICE_AND_MAINTENANCE_GUIDE_ENGLISH.pdf
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4/22/2026 2:19am
I skimmed through (both) service manuals, and there is...........a lot. 🧐 I'm still not sure about a couple of things-How is the BB bearings preloaded/adjusted? And...

I skimmed through (both) service manuals, and there is...........a lot. 🧐 I'm still not sure about a couple of things-

How is the BB bearings preloaded/adjusted? And is it just me or is the DS crank hanging waaaaay out from the BB bearing? I guess if they've gone back to a steel spindle it might be ok, but I would still be nervous about a worn BB scoring the spindle and causing a failure

iceman2058 wrote:

Here's a look at one of said service manuals for those who enjoy self-flagellation...

PDF placeholder - HIGHGEAR_SERVICE_AND_MAINTENANCE_GUIDE_ENGLISH.pdf

You think you've read how to rebuild the assembly...but then it keeps going....and going....and going......

As long as the shock comes out without touching it, that part can be an SEP (someone elses problem)

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4/22/2026 2:22am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 3:03am

Kind of hilarious that the marketing line is that "you don't have to deal with the complications of a normal idler" - like this isn't the world's most complicated bike 😂

I think the highgear thing is cool but the design of the frame around the bottom bracket seems a bit awkward. Even with the frame protection I don’t like those thin-ish carbon edges. The fully open linkage area is also a concern - yes mud can get in and out, but in UK winter conditions all of those interior surfaces are going to get wrecked by any fine dirt and sand that gets left in there. Not to mention it's going to be a pain to get in and clean it all out.

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4/22/2026 3:55am

Engineers at Scott must be going insane after finding out Specialized has beaten them at making the most complicated MTB to service, the next Gambler will have 32 pivots in retaliation

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Saw this in the background of an Instagram story, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

Saw this in the background of an Instagram IMG 9094 0.png?VersionId=8GXNvckEx5Crh4SadHstory, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

Making way for a TQ system to slot into there ?

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4/22/2026 4:17am
CptObius wrote:
Guys, imagine specialized replaces the two chains with 1 shiftable chain in the front housing for the enduro.Classified hub, dh groupset, front shifting, that would be...

Guys, imagine specialized replaces the two chains with 1 shiftable chain in the front housing for the enduro.
Classified hub, dh groupset, front shifting, that would be buck wild

Honda's deraileur-in-a-box patent has recently expired https://patents.google.com/patent/US7503862B2/en

I had another look at DW's "adjacent drive assembly" patent that looks similar to the specialized and have seen that there are fillings that have been withdrawn and amended with different claims. The latest is pending with the US and has been withdrawn from the Europe patent application process, probably because it's difficult to make a unique claim when so many bikes with gearboxes and jack shaft arrangements have been on the market.

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4/22/2026 4:58am
bigbonjour wrote:
Saw this in the background of an Instagram story, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

Saw this in the background of an Instagram IMG 9094 0.png?VersionId=8GXNvckEx5Crh4SadHstory, must be the new tall boy going away from VPP

Sir HC wrote:

Making way for a TQ system to slot into there ?

TQ is developing a new motor, a bit smaller/lighter than the current one but with 100 Nm if I am correct. 
I should be out next summer not before. So it could be the reason. 

It is a shame for Santa to go away from the VPP system ... :-( 

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