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I've never heard of a shop renting wheels. Hell, I asked 7+ shops in Morzine to rent me just a helmet without a bike and all...

I've never heard of a shop renting wheels. Hell, I asked 7+ shops in Morzine to rent me just a helmet without a bike and all but one wouldn't even do that! (wanted one with ASTM F1952)

I don't build wheels, and have no desire to as that's the main way I support my LBS. I've 100% freed myself from not being able to ride a certain bike in my quiver due to nuking a wheel. All 148 bikes with Hope front hubs that can be converted between 15mm and 20mm.

Very interested to see what rear spacing the new Demo is using...

dolface wrote:
Didn't Spesh have some nonsense about keeping the Demo rear end at 135mm so it could "more easily fit between rocks" back when Boost was first...

Didn't Spesh have some nonsense about keeping the Demo rear end at 135mm so it could "more easily fit between rocks" back when Boost was first happening?

yeah the swoopy one when Gwin/Brosnan was on board.

I went through 3 frames in a year when I rode those, all cracked in the same BB junction. The 135mm hub was so dumb you could feel the wheel flex in berms.

Sick looking bike though.

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I run the same rear wheel size and rotors and tires and forks and frames on all of my bikes for maximum interchangeability

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The crown on that KYB strikes me as excessively sculpted. Might just be the angles, but it looks reeaal light.

It’s not. It’s 2900g. 

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ebruner wrote:
I have fought off having superboost rear wheels in my fleet for many years.  My wife fell in love with a pivot recently and got herself...

I have fought off having superboost rear wheels in my fleet for many years.  My wife fell in love with a pivot recently and got herself one.  It has ruined the zen status of all wheels/hubs fitting all bikes in my garage.  It is as bad, if not worse then the dystopian axle future I imagined that had me avoiding pivot bikes for nearly a decade now.  

superboost sucks... after having a superboost bike forced on me, I can safely say, I will never own a superboost bike.  

Oh come on

What are you doing swapping wheels every other day? I call bullshit to all this superboost hate

I agree 148 for everyone would be the best thing

But if you’ve got a superboost bike with a nice set of wheels I really don’t see the point in wanting to swap stuff around constantly 

Get legos to do that

Almost 5 years into owning a superboost bike and I’ve never had once an issue with it

Once I sent a wheel for warranty and just borrowed a DH one for the weekend, 0 issues there too 

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ebruner wrote:
I have fought off having superboost rear wheels in my fleet for many years.  My wife fell in love with a pivot recently and got herself...

I have fought off having superboost rear wheels in my fleet for many years.  My wife fell in love with a pivot recently and got herself one.  It has ruined the zen status of all wheels/hubs fitting all bikes in my garage.  It is as bad, if not worse then the dystopian axle future I imagined that had me avoiding pivot bikes for nearly a decade now.  

superboost sucks... after having a superboost bike forced on me, I can safely say, I will never own a superboost bike.  

Evil96 wrote:
Oh come onWhat are you doing swapping wheels every other day? I call bullshit to all this superboost hateI agree 148 for everyone would be the...

Oh come on

What are you doing swapping wheels every other day? I call bullshit to all this superboost hate

I agree 148 for everyone would be the best thing

But if you’ve got a superboost bike with a nice set of wheels I really don’t see the point in wanting to swap stuff around constantly 

Get legos to do that

Almost 5 years into owning a superboost bike and I’ve never had once an issue with it

Once I sent a wheel for warranty and just borrowed a DH one for the weekend, 0 issues there too 

Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing to gain for convincing you.  I have a lot of mountain bikes and so does my wife, 6 between us.  Everyone of our bikes has sram brakes with metallic pads, 200mm hs2 rotors and the same sram drivetrains and sram dt350 hubs on every wheelset save one.  There are two extra floater wheelsets between all of the bikes.  

I think it may actually be more important for me to be on the right tires then it is to be on the right bike.  For example, my trail bike runs dhr2 f/r, my wife runs assegai/dhr2 f/r and the floater wheelset we have between us is disector v2 front, forekaster rear.  

Maybe I'm the weirdo that mtb marketing departments are successfully targeting, 

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six mountain bikes is too many mountain bikes dude!

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ebruner wrote:
Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing...

Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing to gain for convincing you.  I have a lot of mountain bikes and so does my wife, 6 between us.  Everyone of our bikes has sram brakes with metallic pads, 200mm hs2 rotors and the same sram drivetrains and sram dt350 hubs on every wheelset save one.  There are two extra floater wheelsets between all of the bikes.  

I think it may actually be more important for me to be on the right tires then it is to be on the right bike.  For example, my trail bike runs dhr2 f/r, my wife runs assegai/dhr2 f/r and the floater wheelset we have between us is disector v2 front, forekaster rear.  

Maybe I'm the weirdo that mtb marketing departments are successfully targeting, 

No need to convince me, I just find it ridiculous that’s all.

Perhaps I don’t own 3 or more bikes and I don’t need to swap stuff around at all and so it doesn’t really affect me, as long as you’re happy with boost and I am with superboost then it’s all good 

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10/22/2025 9:59pm
bizutch wrote:

Anyone see where Trumpore is starting a bike brand of some kind? Looked like suspension bits 886  ??

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQG5MEGkl6zAaL39OLIp4rXFISlE33vT5ZLESk0/

Simcik wrote:

Private account... Mind screenshotting it?

Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now.

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For those who have had problems with the Santa Cruz V10 headset, now the last units are with this screw in the piece.

For those who have had problems with the Santa Cruz V10 headset, now the last units are with this screw in the piece.

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IMG 5651

comatosegi wrote:
That has been out for the 2024 V10 since late last year.  SC has been sending them out under warranty throughout this season, I got mine...

That has been out for the 2024 V10 since late last year.  SC has been sending them out under warranty throughout this season, I got mine in July.  Still running a good bit a torque through the headset. I haven’t heard of any 2025s needing it, SC said they made some changes.

63expert wrote:

I’ve also had to use A LOT of torque to keep the headset still on my V10

6nm, even with the new bolted headset cups.

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10/23/2025 1:45am
bizutch wrote:

Anyone see where Trumpore is starting a bike brand of some kind? Looked like suspension bits 886  ??

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQG5MEGkl6zAaL39OLIp4rXFISlE33vT5ZLESk0/

Simcik wrote:

Private account... Mind screenshotting it?

LTrumpore wrote:
Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now. 

Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now.

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Maybe it's a coil conversion kit, hope so. 

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10/23/2025 4:00am Edited Date/Time 10/23/2025 4:01am
I've never heard of a shop renting wheels. Hell, I asked 7+ shops in Morzine to rent me just a helmet without a bike and all...

I've never heard of a shop renting wheels. Hell, I asked 7+ shops in Morzine to rent me just a helmet without a bike and all but one wouldn't even do that! (wanted one with ASTM F1952)

I don't build wheels, and have no desire to as that's the main way I support my LBS. I've 100% freed myself from not being able to ride a certain bike in my quiver due to nuking a wheel. All 148 bikes with Hope front hubs that can be converted between 15mm and 20mm.

Very interested to see what rear spacing the new Demo is using...

dolface wrote:
Didn't Spesh have some nonsense about keeping the Demo rear end at 135mm so it could "more easily fit between rocks" back when Boost was first...

Didn't Spesh have some nonsense about keeping the Demo rear end at 135mm so it could "more easily fit between rocks" back when Boost was first happening?

To be fair, Transition said the same thing about the current gen TR11 being 148 when it first came out. Although, it seemed like it was tongue in cheek.

 

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LTrumpore wrote:
Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now. 

Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now.

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Sorry for the attempted re-post. Didn't realize your page was private. Feels special. It wasn't a hot tub pic, so it caught my attention. 😉

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10/23/2025 7:04am
LTrumpore wrote:
Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now. 

Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now.

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bizutch wrote:

Sorry for the attempted re-post. Didn't realize your page was private. Feels special. It wasn't a hot tub pic, so it caught my attention. 😉

Someone would trust this guy with anything related to suspension? 😂🤡

One of Vital's biggest misses IMO

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ebruner wrote:
Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing...

Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing to gain for convincing you.  I have a lot of mountain bikes and so does my wife, 6 between us.  Everyone of our bikes has sram brakes with metallic pads, 200mm hs2 rotors and the same sram drivetrains and sram dt350 hubs on every wheelset save one.  There are two extra floater wheelsets between all of the bikes.  

I think it may actually be more important for me to be on the right tires then it is to be on the right bike.  For example, my trail bike runs dhr2 f/r, my wife runs assegai/dhr2 f/r and the floater wheelset we have between us is disector v2 front, forekaster rear.  

Maybe I'm the weirdo that mtb marketing departments are successfully targeting, 

5 bikes between wife and I, and yes I agree with every word this guy says. All my rear wheels are 148 boost axles, makes it easy when....

1. One needs to be trued/serviced

2. Rim cracks at the bikepark

3. Biking trips I just bring an extra ready to go rear wheel

I will also likely never own anything superboost, and if I get a DH bike I'll find one that's on 148 (frameworks/forbidden etc.) 

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ebruner wrote:
Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing...

Well the bad news is that I don't know what to tell you, and the good news is that I have nothing to prove, nor nothing to gain for convincing you.  I have a lot of mountain bikes and so does my wife, 6 between us.  Everyone of our bikes has sram brakes with metallic pads, 200mm hs2 rotors and the same sram drivetrains and sram dt350 hubs on every wheelset save one.  There are two extra floater wheelsets between all of the bikes.  

I think it may actually be more important for me to be on the right tires then it is to be on the right bike.  For example, my trail bike runs dhr2 f/r, my wife runs assegai/dhr2 f/r and the floater wheelset we have between us is disector v2 front, forekaster rear.  

Maybe I'm the weirdo that mtb marketing departments are successfully targeting, 

amaranth wrote:
5 bikes between wife and I, and yes I agree with every word this guy says. All my rear wheels are 148 boost axles, makes it...

5 bikes between wife and I, and yes I agree with every word this guy says. All my rear wheels are 148 boost axles, makes it easy when....

1. One needs to be trued/serviced

2. Rim cracks at the bikepark

3. Biking trips I just bring an extra ready to go rear wheel

I will also likely never own anything superboost, and if I get a DH bike I'll find one that's on 148 (frameworks/forbidden etc.) 

Definitely, agree. Learned some hard lessons between my wife's bikes and mine during weekend's at the park and we only have 3 bikes between us. Having consistency between trail/enduro and DH bike is very nice when shit inevitably happens. It also frees up some space in the van/car, because you don't have to bring a bunch of different parts. Brakes and wheels are nice to have as common parts between the rigs. It also makes it easier to stock those little parts that may break or go missing. 

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owl-x wrote:

six mountain bikes is too many mountain bikes dude!

I thought it was very brave of Ebruner to be vulnerable and share how many bikes he and his wife have. It can be tough to come clean.  

We’re all active or recovering bikes addicts here, and this is supposed to be a supportive community for recovery. Or enabling rationalizations and fostering codependency, if that’s what you’re looking for. Both, really.

JUDGEMENT FREE SPACE

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10/23/2025 9:09am
bizutch wrote:

Anyone see where Trumpore is starting a bike brand of some kind? Looked like suspension bits 886  ??

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQG5MEGkl6zAaL39OLIp4rXFISlE33vT5ZLESk0/

Simcik wrote:

Private account... Mind screenshotting it?

LTrumpore wrote:
Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now. 

Not here to self-promote but since Butch already tried re-posting from my IG I hope this is okay.  Rumors only for now.

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Hack. 😂

 

Can't wait to see what you're up to!

 

-Luke

 

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owl-x wrote:

six mountain bikes is too many mountain bikes dude!

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I thought it was very brave of Ebruner to be vulnerable and share how many bikes he and his wife have. It can be tough to...

I thought it was very brave of Ebruner to be vulnerable and share how many bikes he and his wife have. It can be tough to come clean.  

We’re all active or recovering bikes addicts here, and this is supposed to be a supportive community for recovery. Or enabling rationalizations and fostering codependency, if that’s what you’re looking for. Both, really.

JUDGEMENT FREE SPACE

This is one of those posts that makes me wish that I could thumbs up multiple times.

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10/23/2025 9:17am
owl-x wrote:

six mountain bikes is too many mountain bikes dude!

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I thought it was very brave of Ebruner to be vulnerable and share how many bikes he and his wife have. It can be tough to...

I thought it was very brave of Ebruner to be vulnerable and share how many bikes he and his wife have. It can be tough to come clean.  

We’re all active or recovering bikes addicts here, and this is supposed to be a supportive community for recovery. Or enabling rationalizations and fostering codependency, if that’s what you’re looking for. Both, really.

JUDGEMENT FREE SPACE

Guilty. Active. No need for recovery as I’d prefer further addiction. 

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10/23/2025 10:37am
owl-x wrote:

six mountain bikes is too many mountain bikes dude!

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10/23/2025 11:05am

Where are the new Evil models posted? Any idea if they’re abandoning the superboost rear hub spacing? 

Fingers crossed they go back to 148.  Some of my favorite bikes were Evil, but I switched to other brands when they went to Superboost.  As...

Fingers crossed they go back to 148.  Some of my favorite bikes were Evil, but I switched to other brands when they went to Superboost.  As someone with multiple bikes, and having been on riding trips where people had to borrow rear wheels, Superboost is a dealbreaker for me.  My current trail bike is a 2022 model, and I haven't been interested in any new bikes.  If Evil goes back to 148, I would probably order one at release.  

Evil96 wrote:
On trips you can borrow dh wheels from someone or rent a dh wheel from a shop, not the end of the world, although back to...

On trips you can borrow dh wheels from someone or rent a dh wheel from a shop, not the end of the world, although back to 148 would be nice given that transmission offers a similar chain line they wanted to achieve tanks to superboost ( as per one of the last q&a s on instagram )

This is crazy. Who do you know that has spare 157 wheels laying around?  Shops don’t rent wheels. They barely rent bikes anymore.

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This is crazy. Who do you know that has spare 157 wheels laying around?  Shops don’t rent wheels. They barely rent bikes anymore.

I was also so thrown off by the comment that a shop would rent a wheel... that sounds like an easy way to go bankrupt if you ask me. I wouldn't want to rent myself a wheel. 

My wife's mom wants to pass on her like-new, lady-riden, 2023 Devinci Troy, which by all means is a sick bike. What keeps me up at night is that it has superboost and doesn't vibe with all our 148 bikes. 

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Fingers crossed they go back to 148.  Some of my favorite bikes were Evil, but I switched to other brands when they went to Superboost.  As...

Fingers crossed they go back to 148.  Some of my favorite bikes were Evil, but I switched to other brands when they went to Superboost.  As someone with multiple bikes, and having been on riding trips where people had to borrow rear wheels, Superboost is a dealbreaker for me.  My current trail bike is a 2022 model, and I haven't been interested in any new bikes.  If Evil goes back to 148, I would probably order one at release.  

Evil96 wrote:
On trips you can borrow dh wheels from someone or rent a dh wheel from a shop, not the end of the world, although back to...

On trips you can borrow dh wheels from someone or rent a dh wheel from a shop, not the end of the world, although back to 148 would be nice given that transmission offers a similar chain line they wanted to achieve tanks to superboost ( as per one of the last q&a s on instagram )

This is crazy. Who do you know that has spare 157 wheels laying around?  Shops don’t rent wheels. They barely rent bikes anymore.

I'll add to the dumpster fire: In 2022 a friend of mine broke his super boost rear wheel just days before our bike trip to Moab. He was unable to find any replacement in a big city like Toronto. Not even the shops in Moab had one. After much research. he managed to find a bike shop several hours out of the way from Moab that had one collecting dust. If this was a "normal" 148 wheel then he could've used any one of our spare wheels. It's just silly. 

Also never heard of renting wheels in North America.

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10/23/2025 11:55am
Evil96 wrote:
On trips you can borrow dh wheels from someone or rent a dh wheel from a shop, not the end of the world, although back to...

On trips you can borrow dh wheels from someone or rent a dh wheel from a shop, not the end of the world, although back to 148 would be nice given that transmission offers a similar chain line they wanted to achieve tanks to superboost ( as per one of the last q&a s on instagram )

This is crazy. Who do you know that has spare 157 wheels laying around?  Shops don’t rent wheels. They barely rent bikes anymore.

sprungmass wrote:
I'll add to the dumpster fire: In 2022 a friend of mine broke his super boost rear wheel just days before our bike trip to Moab...

I'll add to the dumpster fire: In 2022 a friend of mine broke his super boost rear wheel just days before our bike trip to Moab. He was unable to find any replacement in a big city like Toronto. Not even the shops in Moab had one. After much research. he managed to find a bike shop several hours out of the way from Moab that had one collecting dust. If this was a "normal" 148 wheel then he could've used any one of our spare wheels. It's just silly. 

Also never heard of renting wheels in North America.

god i love the friends who refuse to ride anything normal. they really keep things interesting.

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10/23/2025 12:21pm

I've said this before, and it's partially a self inflicted wound, but I own 4 bikes and none of them share wheels.

Stooge- Boost

Knolly - Super Boost

Urban Arrow - old school 135

Moonlander 2.0 - 197 full fat

A few months ago I sold my Chamois Hagar, running classic 142. 

Realistically, all of those bikes except the Moonlander would be well served at 148/Boost. Knolly uses superboost but there is absolutely no reason it couldn't be running regular boost. Gravel bikes are getting there because the commonality with MTB parts does them good.

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I had to reverse image search this to make sure it’s not ROBOT. Looks like you dude!

Rental DH wheels?! Im gonna tell that guy who wants to open a mtb shop from the other post…sounds like the perfect move. 

six mountain bikes is too many, but I get it. It’s the seven interchangeable wheelsets that’s untenable. If this is an addict situation then seven wheelsets is a relapse!

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owl-x wrote:
I had to reverse image search this to make sure it’s not ROBOT. Looks like you dude!Rental DH wheels?! Im gonna tell that guy who wants...

I had to reverse image search this to make sure it’s not ROBOT. Looks like you dude!

Rental DH wheels?! Im gonna tell that guy who wants to open a mtb shop from the other post…sounds like the perfect move. 

six mountain bikes is too many, but I get it. It’s the seven interchangeable wheelsets that’s untenable. If this is an addict situation then seven wheelsets is a relapse!

Six seems like an aggressive number, but I'm halfway there. Enduro, single speed hardtail, dirt jumper. If I had my way, I'd have a dh/park bike and live where it makes sense to have a fat bike (but definitely not my jam). Plus a gravel bike which I ride the most. 

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10/23/2025 12:52pm Edited Date/Time 10/23/2025 12:52pm

Before I confess are we talking mountain bikes or all bikes.... And do unbuilt frames count....

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10/23/2025 1:04pm
sweaman22 wrote:

Before I confess are we talking mountain bikes or all bikes.... And do unbuilt frames count....

Oh shoot. I've got one of those too. Lol

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