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ebikepartyshirt 5/31/2025 6:10pm
5/31/2025 6:10pm
sspomer wrote:
thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real...

thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!

so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real heat is (maybe there's a dripper there and we can't see it).

I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake is more constant for speed management, thus not allowing it to cool. 

I’m surprised it gets that hot in 3 minutes but I guess it's super high intensity. 

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SteveClimber 5/31/2025 6:48pm
5/31/2025 6:48pm
sspomer wrote:
thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real...

thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!

so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real heat is (maybe there's a dripper there and we can't see it).

Yeah rear brakes can get absolutely cooked on a track like this, as even the pros will brake drag half the run. Because the corner speed at some points is quite slow after the shutes, they just need to get rid of that energy through the brakes. Front brakes you can't drag going down the steeps, as you'll just lose traction and miss the lines. 

You can check on your bike if your overheating due to the disc discoloration. 

It's why some pros go up and down rotor sizes/pad compounds to get the brakes at optimal temp, here overheating is an issue, for other tracks maintaining heat is an issue.  

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Blake_Motley 6/1/2025 12:16am
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sspomer wrote:
thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real...

thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!

so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real heat is (maybe there's a dripper there and we can't see it).

Tanner Stephens over here

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onenerdykid* 6/1/2025 12:46am
6/1/2025 12:46am
sspomer wrote:
thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real...

thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!

so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real heat is (maybe there's a dripper there and we can't see it).

ebikepartyshirt wrote:
I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake...

I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake is more constant for speed management, thus not allowing it to cool. 

I’m surprised it gets that hot in 3 minutes but I guess it's super high intensity. 

And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far more than the front.

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honeymoon 6/1/2025 1:44am
6/1/2025 1:44am Edited Date/Time 6/1/2025 3:29am
sspomer wrote:
what's on henry kerr's gamux (from Q2 loudenvielle after he crashed...thankfully he's ok b/c w/ his OTB crash, it'd be easy to say "ejector seat?" external...

what's on henry kerr's gamux (from Q2 loudenvielle after he crashed...thankfully he's ok b/c w/ his OTB crash, it'd be easy to say "ejector seat?" external resevoir for rear brake? ABS type thing?

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Phil Atwill mentioned something similar on his sleeper podcast about a syringe that dripped water to his rear brake

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C58ajzDM9Dq/

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Etney 6/1/2025 8:02am
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They did mention it on the official broadcast that some teams were using a "dripper system" to help with rear brake temperature, so you guys were indeed correct!

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MikeyE 6/1/2025 9:36am
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sspomer wrote:
thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real...

thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!

so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real heat is (maybe there's a dripper there and we can't see it).

ebikepartyshirt wrote:
I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake...

I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake is more constant for speed management, thus not allowing it to cool. 

I’m surprised it gets that hot in 3 minutes but I guess it's super high intensity. 

onenerdykid* wrote:
And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far...

And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far more than the front.

Loic was running a larger rear rotor this weekend as well. 

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MrDuck 6/1/2025 9:58am
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ebikepartyshirt wrote:
I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake...

I would think the rear would heat up more than the front because of how you use them. Front brake hard and intermittent and rear brake is more constant for speed management, thus not allowing it to cool. 

I’m surprised it gets that hot in 3 minutes but I guess it's super high intensity. 

onenerdykid* wrote:
And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far...

And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far more than the front.

MikeyE wrote:

Loic was running a larger rear rotor this weekend as well. 

A lot of the quicker kids in Whistler been doing this for a few seasons. Haven't fully understood their explanations but I'm not exactly keeping up with them either 😁

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TheSuspensionLabNZ 6/1/2025 1:38pm
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sspomer wrote:
thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real...

thanks all on the dripper thing. had no idea!

so does the back brake really heat up that much? i'd think the front is where the real heat is (maybe there's a dripper there and we can't see it).

The rear brake normally does at least as much work, if not quite a lot more than the front. Not many people are truly 50/50 if you look at something like brakeace data, so its normal for the rear to get hotter. You can often see its more common for rear rotors to be discoloured more than the front too

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carlinojoevideo 6/1/2025 6:49pm
6/1/2025 6:49pm
onenerdykid* wrote:
And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far...

And for this reason why Troy often runs a 220mm rotor in the rear but a normal 200mm up front.  Rear brake is consistently "on" far more than the front.

MikeyE wrote:

Loic was running a larger rear rotor this weekend as well. 

MrDuck wrote:
A lot of the quicker kids in Whistler been doing this for a few seasons. Haven't fully understood their explanations but I'm not exactly keeping up...

A lot of the quicker kids in Whistler been doing this for a few seasons. Haven't fully understood their explanations but I'm not exactly keeping up with them either 😁

I feel that the larger rotor in the rear balances out the “bite”and makes it stronger.  If I run the 220 in front it find the initial bite pitches my fork too much and upsets the bike balance. The first rider I saw do this was Troy Brosnan

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barryjenson 6/1/2025 9:57pm
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Sram bought out ochain.

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MikeyE wrote:

Loic was running a larger rear rotor this weekend as well. 

MrDuck wrote:
A lot of the quicker kids in Whistler been doing this for a few seasons. Haven't fully understood their explanations but I'm not exactly keeping up...

A lot of the quicker kids in Whistler been doing this for a few seasons. Haven't fully understood their explanations but I'm not exactly keeping up with them either 😁

carlinojoevideo wrote:
I feel that the larger rotor in the rear balances out the “bite”and makes it stronger.  If I run the 220 in front it find the...

I feel that the larger rotor in the rear balances out the “bite”and makes it stronger.  If I run the 220 in front it find the initial bite pitches my fork too much and upsets the bike balance. The first rider I saw do this was Troy Brosnan

I seem to remember Martin Maes doing this a few years ago too?

I first encountered the idea in Enduro-MTB's (fairly persuasive) article about it.

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Lacanuck24 6/2/2025 3:10am
6/2/2025 3:10am

Crestline went DJI. Wasn't on my 2025 E-bike Bingo card
RS 181 Spectre Edition - DJI FRAMESET - Image 10
That's a full power, 800wh battery bike. Jeebus!

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Brian_Peterson 6/2/2025 3:55am
6/2/2025 3:55am

That's pretty crazy... Troydon made it sound like they have a really good working relationship with Bouch...

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Endurhevia 6/2/2025 6:50am
6/2/2025 6:50am

Hello, does anyone knows if there will be a release of a new cannondale habit or santa cruz tallboy in a near future (we have seen ella and iago riding the new habit and it looks 110% production ready, and i think we also saw kiran riding the new tallboy in sea otter + there are some big blowout deals on both bikes online)

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hitar_potar wrote:

Wonder why they stopped testing the gen2 6-pots from several years ago when I’m watching how everyone testing the 6-pot Lewis brakes is raving about them…

Rumour was that Adam Brayton didn’t like them / get on with them, so they put them back on the shelf.

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ZAKBROWN! 6/2/2025 8:25am
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barryjenson wrote:

Sram bought out ochain.

Source?  Interesting if true.  Love my Ochain.

God damn I want that Crestline with a dual crown so bad.

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uina 6/2/2025 9:08am
6/2/2025 9:08am

New light E-MTB from Propain

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john_likes_bikes 6/2/2025 9:09am
6/2/2025 9:09am
Lacanuck24 wrote:
Crestline went DJI. Wasn't on my 2025 E-bike Bingo cardThat's a full power, 800wh battery bike. Jeebus!

Crestline went DJI. Wasn't on my 2025 E-bike Bingo card
RS 181 Spectre Edition - DJI FRAMESET - Image 10
That's a full power, 800wh battery bike. Jeebus!

Bases on the comments here it was already available and then sold out on their site???

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1123582389806007&id=10006…

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roost66 6/2/2025 9:29am
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uina wrote:
New light E-MTB from Propain

New light E-MTB from Propain

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Headset cable routing 🤮

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seanfisseli 6/2/2025 9:44am
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uina wrote:
New light E-MTB from Propain

New light E-MTB from Propain

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roost66 wrote:

Headset cable routing 🤮

Maybe just electronic only?

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3ullit 6/2/2025 10:40am
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uina wrote:
New light E-MTB from Propain

New light E-MTB from Propain

1000019190 0.jpg?VersionId=761cCEf.zy.P0wr8TLZ

Why light? Maybe DJI?

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Flo7 6/2/2025 11:09am
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uina wrote:
New light E-MTB from Propain

New light E-MTB from Propain

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3ullit wrote:

Why light? Maybe DJI?

It´s TQ

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storm.racing 6/2/2025 11:32am
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barryjenson wrote:

Sram bought out ochain.

woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

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storm.racing 6/2/2025 11:33am
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Endurhevia wrote:
Hello, does anyone knows if there will be a release of a new cannondale habit or santa cruz tallboy in a near future (we have seen...

Hello, does anyone knows if there will be a release of a new cannondale habit or santa cruz tallboy in a near future (we have seen ella and iago riding the new habit and it looks 110% production ready, and i think we also saw kiran riding the new tallboy in sea otter + there are some big blowout deals on both bikes online)

I feel like usually June with SC

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john_likes_bikes 6/2/2025 11:40am
6/2/2025 11:40am
barryjenson wrote:

Sram bought out ochain.

storm.racing wrote:

woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

Put a SRAM logo on it and charge more? 🙃

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