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Wonder if they're still single lap joins like the original proto?
I saw they stuck with the bizarre double straight entry into the head tube
Renishaw, who makes the ti-printers, are a massive investor in Atherton bikes. So that helped a lot. Other than that, they hired the Robot bike engineers and bought the IP to the process.
You would have to ship the alignment fixture to put it all together as well.
The secret sauce or added value in frames is not so much the design and making parts as much as putting everything together into a functioning, straight product is.
To be honest, they make the lugs in a correct way where the amount of glue needed is 'enough and then some to be sure'. Excess glue gets pushed out of the joint, but the complete overlap gets wetted.
An awful lot of naysayers on this idea. Here is atleast a Steel 120mm trailbike that looks like it answers your DIY dream: https://www.rheintritt.nrw/Ruffy
The plan with the Ruffy was never a fully mittered frame. Phil only wanted to send the tubes and they have to be mittered by someone as this is basically the most work to fit everything. The welding is the easy part.
I was/am pretty involved in the project and did my frame as a framebuilding course at his workshop last summer. Was an awesome experience and I love the bike.
Looks like a UNNO emtb prototype on a DJI motor?
Calfee Designs has entered the chat. DIY Bamboo Bike Kit | Calfee Design
Bamboo DIY bikes are fairly readily available I believe. Edit: got beaten to it!! :Edit
As for Atherton I remember reading the carbon tubes are manufactured for sailing, masts, etc and import d from New Zealand? So it's just a case of cutting them to length and gluing then in. I believe manufacture of a carbon tube can be automated, rather than hand laid which can only bring the costs down.
The pivot design on the other hand has an odd bend in the down tube, and is a non-round shape, suggesting they hand lay those parts specifically for the frame. I guess the moulds/oven could be significantly smaller & cheaper than a full front triangle. Possibly letting them do it in-house?
Yeah, tha seems to be the case looking at the first sneak peak pictures that had a raw finish and now the latest ones with the same finish and sharpie markings...
likely just a special edition paint job, but cool nonetheless
went to check in w/ Chris Canfield at Vampire last week. super interesting stuff. showed his steel and new titanium bike and discussed it all. detail pics here https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/vampire-bikes-basement-chris-canfield
Another picture.
And on the same page :
New Whyte eMTB releasing March 6th.
Looks like mechanical T-Type as per the housing at the rear, the housing near handlebar/headset that is routed internally and the shifter shape that is not looking like the usual square POD.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGlXg40olT8/?hl=fr
With that said, if I had to choose between a frame bonded by pivot or the average pinkbiker, it would be a tough decision.
Would you take one with 316 stainless lugs and Reynolds tubes? I'll even throw in some redundancy with bolts and double lapped joints?
Solution: Oval tubes! Now the only way to get them to fit is also the way to perfectly align them!
I've ridden some pretty poorly aligned road & mountain bike frames in my day from the Big Boys, so esp. with the context of DIY, I think people would be more tolerant (hehe) that you'd think.
its just liability suicide.
This is why is a good business idea- Sell a DIY bamboo jig too!
Can we stop with the pipe dreaming, people would be more likely to glue their head to the table than properly use industrial adhesives in a frame jig.
Most people struggle with IKEA,
Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams
Maybe the new Forbidden...
I too dream about gluing my head to the table.
I recently had to re-attach the rear view mirror mounting button to my car's windscreen and, judging by the poor user reviews for the kit I used, the average person can't even manage to properly prep a glass/ceramic substrate (using a supplied cleaning/activation pad!) and apply a single drop of adhesive to it.
But it's only been up for a few months so it remains to be seen which group I'm in...
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/new-zipp-wheelset-with-integrated-tyre-pressure-sensor-spotted
tech wise, nothing that hasn’t been done before, but Zipp wheels and (presumably) tyrewiz combined into the same product.
Both brands under the SRAM umbrella, so will we see a mtb version soon?
This has been done on the 3zero Moto for some years already.
not integrated
Almost but not quite.
There will be a mechanical T-type spec option but that launches later when the embargo lifts.
What you see is the cable which runs to the battery from the electronic RD and the controller screen at the handlebar.
This looks like one hell of a bike though.
Looks nice for sure (Bosch gen5 800w)
New TRP brakes are compatible with Bosch ABS
Edit: this could be old news, not too plugged into ABS brake thing
I wasn't aware that Whyte were switching to wire power/battery as they're currently relying on the regular SRAM external battery on all of their ebikes right now.
Thanks for the clarifications.