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1/13/2025 1:31pm

Speaking of pedals, anyone has time on the Pendulums, yet?

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1/13/2025 2:44pm
nato wrote:
OneUp SPD compatible pedal incoming, as light as XTR Trail with (almost) the platform of Saint and DH Mallet. Claim to fame, thinnest SPD on the market...

OneUp SPD compatible pedal incoming, as light as XTR Trail with (almost) the platform of Saint and DH Mallet. 

Claim to fame, thinnest SPD on the market, and they've tightened up the binding so you don't get that metal on metal vague feeling (before reaching the float).

There was an exclusive Downtime podcast on it a couple of days ago which now seems to have been pulled down, they may have jumped the gun.

jonkranked wrote:

the million dollar question - will they be as durable as shimano pedals?

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

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1/13/2025 3:46pm Edited Date/Time 1/13/2025 3:47pm
ballz wrote:

Speaking of pedals, anyone has time on the Pendulums, yet?

I have about 200km and 10,000M of vert on the Void pedals and they've been incredible so far mountain biking in the snow/ice/slush. I fat bike a lot and usually wear snow hiking boots with deep lugs for warmth. The Voids with have been the grippiest pedal I have for that kind of footwear. I used to swap between clipless and flats but for the first time I don't feel like switching. Lack of an axle really makes the foot sink in and lock in place.

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SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. If the OneUp SPD's last...

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

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Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. 

I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons on them before the bearings are shot.

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1/13/2025 4:39pm

On the same podcast where OneUp talked about the new clipless pedal they also talked about their flat pedal offerings and how their point of difference was they are convex rather than concave. They said what they have noticed is this helps the foot mould to the pedal more naturally i.e. the arch of your foot standing on something smaller than your foot.

The Void and Pendulum pedals effectively create an exaggerated concave. From the reviews they don't lack grip, I wonder which is more comfortable on long descents?

Oh, OneUp also mentioned a new flat is coming soon too.

1/13/2025 4:39pm
nato wrote:
OneUp SPD compatible pedal incoming, as light as XTR Trail with (almost) the platform of Saint and DH Mallet. Claim to fame, thinnest SPD on the market...

OneUp SPD compatible pedal incoming, as light as XTR Trail with (almost) the platform of Saint and DH Mallet. 

Claim to fame, thinnest SPD on the market, and they've tightened up the binding so you don't get that metal on metal vague feeling (before reaching the float).

There was an exclusive Downtime podcast on it a couple of days ago which now seems to have been pulled down, they may have jumped the gun.

jonkranked wrote:

the million dollar question - will they be as durable as shimano pedals?

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. If the OneUp SPD's last...

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

Hell,

I've got a pair of time ATAC pedals from 1999 that are still going strong. 

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1/13/2025 4:41pm
SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. If the OneUp SPD's last...

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

Eisma wrote:
Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons...
Screenshot 2025-01-13 5.34.19 PM

Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. 

I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons on them before the bearings are shot.

Nice, must have just gone up, wasn't there yesterday I think.

1/13/2025 4:57pm
boozed wrote:

That barrel nut mount design can still be found today... on Atherton A-series frames.

Jakub_G wrote:

Nicolai might want to have word with you.

boozed wrote:
To be clear, I didn't mean that's the only place it can be found, just that it was interesting in amongst all the Atherton talk.  If...

To be clear, I didn't mean that's the only place it can be found, just that it was interesting in amongst all the Atherton talk.  If I had to guess who else is doing it, Nicolai would probably be top of the list!

My McGarry Tues also has that design. When started building the bike it was a downer noticing they were missing so had to request some in the post. 

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1/13/2025 5:54pm
SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. If the OneUp SPD's last...

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

Eisma wrote:
Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons...
Screenshot 2025-01-13 5.34.19 PM

Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. 

I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons on them before the bearings are shot.

Wasn’t having great luck with the shimano trail spds, both Xt and xtr. 
Switched to Ht and have had no issues. Cleats last longer. Better release. 

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1/13/2025 6:38pm
lloyd506 wrote:

Wasn’t having great luck with the shimano trail spds, both Xt and xtr. 
Switched to Ht and have had no issues. Cleats last longer. Better release. 

This year I went LOOK on my trail bike and Chromag on my DH bike and i've been happy. So far they seem to be holding up.

1/13/2025 6:44pm Edited Date/Time 1/13/2025 6:45pm

The new one-up clip pedal

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1/13/2025 6:55pm

So are we calling Clipless pedals Clip pedals now?  

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1/13/2025 7:54pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2025 7:37am
nato wrote:
On the same podcast where OneUp talked about the new clipless pedal they also talked about their flat pedal offerings and how their point of difference...

On the same podcast where OneUp talked about the new clipless pedal they also talked about their flat pedal offerings and how their point of difference was they are convex rather than concave. They said what they have noticed is this helps the foot mould to the pedal more naturally i.e. the arch of your foot standing on something smaller than your foot.

The Void and Pendulum pedals effectively create an exaggerated concave. From the reviews they don't lack grip, I wonder which is more comfortable on long descents?

Oh, OneUp also mentioned a new flat is coming soon too.

Depends where you position your foot. Arch over axle - convex. Ball over axle - concave. Wonder if their new flat pedal will be concave or just a refinement of the existing?

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1/13/2025 7:56pm
all he said was the bike was disappointing for anything other than... in his words "flying to south africa with Sam Reynolds and doing big F%$k...

all he said was the bike was disappointing for anything other than... in his words "flying to south africa with Sam Reynolds and doing big F%$k off jumps" - He was on a Spire with 190mm fork.
I didnt really ride with him like I hoped because he rode off so damn fast I had no chance haha

 

Jotegr wrote:
As someone who is a huge fan of the current Float X, I don't know how you can release a 200mm DH bike with a float...

As someone who is a huge fan of the current Float X, I don't know how you can release a 200mm DH bike with a float x as the only shock option and claim it's a serious race contender with a straight face. 

Nobble wrote:
While I agree it seems undergunned, the fastest woman I know runs the stock shock on her TR11 and says it’s fine. She is pretty light...

While I agree it seems undergunned, the fastest woman I know runs the stock shock on her TR11 and says it’s fine. She is pretty light though.


They also chose it when the Float X2s were still exploding. My guess is they wanted to spec it with an air shock and they didn’t want to choose one that would die first ride. The Float X also helps them keep the cost down a bit.

It didn’t fit because they couldn’t get it to. Also that bike has a 40% progression rate.  It’s a joke of a dh bike that people sac ride because of the bro culture. 

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1/13/2025 8:39pm

So are we calling Clipless pedals Clip pedals now?  

We are now, still, yes. 

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1/13/2025 9:50pm

Those oneup pedals are the SPD answer to CB, no rubbish 'play/icy/metal on metal feeling' anymore
solid pedal to shoe contact. 

Might finally make me switch to SPD - got my preorder in already!

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1/13/2025 10:08pm
SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. If the OneUp SPD's last...

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

Eisma wrote:
Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons...
Screenshot 2025-01-13 5.34.19 PM

Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. 

I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons on them before the bearings are shot.

Making me feel easy on stuff. I've somehow got a pair of Crank Bros mallet E's from 2016 that have seen 6 bikes and 8 seasons of riding without ever even been taken apart or any service of any kind, I'm too scared to now to touch them now, it'll ruin them 😅. I feel like I'd be handing Shimano's down to my great grand kids.

I'll be interested as to how well the new One Up's hold up. I find their flats to be hit or miss and the service window is way to short for the average user. The 99% have no idea pedals need to be serviced over a 10 years, let alone 50h.I had a pair in my hands today and they looked solid, but hopefully they are a bit more robust than some of their alloy flats.

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1/14/2025 3:03am Edited Date/Time 1/14/2025 3:04am

What's wrong with their aluminium flats? They've been solid for me since they dropped the three small outboard bearings... 

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1/14/2025 3:32am
Primoz wrote:

What's wrong with their aluminium flats? They've been solid for me since they dropped the three small outboard bearings... 

I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I had one unscrew itself from the crank. Couldn’t even remove the axle anymore in some cases. Those might have been the old versions though. 

Customer service has been great, they got me fresh pedals every time, but after getting almost stuck in some remote valley I switched to Nukeproof SH enduros and eventually back to Shimano SPDs. On the hope clip pedals right now and they’re great as well. 

The upside for shimano pedals imo is that you can get spares in every bike shop. Don’t know if the oneups can get on that level. 

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I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I...

I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I had one unscrew itself from the crank. Couldn’t even remove the axle anymore in some cases. Those might have been the old versions though. 

Customer service has been great, they got me fresh pedals every time, but after getting almost stuck in some remote valley I switched to Nukeproof SH enduros and eventually back to Shimano SPDs. On the hope clip pedals right now and they’re great as well. 

The upside for shimano pedals imo is that you can get spares in every bike shop. Don’t know if the oneups can get on that level. 

I've even seen brand new ones be so stiff that you actually notice a difference in resistance when pedaling. A friend bought a brand new set of alu flats, and its like the bearings are shot right out of the box. Feels like the bearing or axle is stuck.

Regardless - I took a shot in the dark now and ordered a set of these clip pedals. I like everything else I've tried from Oneup, and I have been looking to try something else than the saints I currently run. Love the SPD part of the saints, dont like how like 10% of the actual platform contacts my shoe. The oneup seems a lot better there. Only question is longevity, but I guess we'll see

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1/14/2025 4:46am

What if we call clipless pedals cleats and flat pedals cleatless? Then we are in the right and the clip vs. clipless nomenclature can also stay as is. 

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1/14/2025 5:44am
Primoz wrote:
What if we call clipless pedals cleats and flat pedals cleatless? Then we are in the right and the clip vs. clipless nomenclature can also stay...

What if we call clipless pedals cleats and flat pedals cleatless? Then we are in the right and the clip vs. clipless nomenclature can also stay as is. 

Cleats and flats?

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1/14/2025 7:19am Edited Date/Time 1/14/2025 7:23am
Those oneup pedals are the SPD answer to CB, no rubbish 'play/icy/metal on metal feeling' anymoresolid pedal to shoe contact. Might finally make me switch to SPD...

Those oneup pedals are the SPD answer to CB, no rubbish 'play/icy/metal on metal feeling' anymore
solid pedal to shoe contact. 

Might finally make me switch to SPD - got my preorder in already!

Seems like no matter the platform under it, SPDs have always had this awful feel compared to Mallets for enduro and gravity riding. I am holding out because I have been burned before trying systems other than CrankBros.

It would be amazing to see some reviews (or Vital forum members) to verify this other than the fancy new OneUp advertisement saying it's the best new thing ever of the same old thing you've always used.

Give me Shimano durability with CrankBros feel. I was hoping SRAM would attempt this after they bought TIME, but they seem distracted with many other things.

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1/14/2025 7:44am Edited Date/Time 1/14/2025 7:44am

Wait, have we figured out if we're all going shorter cranks yet before we switch pedals to clip(less)? This is all moving too fast for my feet. 

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1/14/2025 7:45am

RDR is the same old, are those just XT/XTR calipers with the Saint banjo though? Not Saint calipers but don’t look like the prototypes either

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29 wrote:

RDR is the same old, are those just XT/XTR calipers with the Saint banjo though? Not Saint calipers but don’t look like the prototypes either

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Electrical tape, the Maxxis tire sharpie of brake calipers

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Electrical tape, the Maxxis tire sharpie of brake calipers

and still the same saint derailleur that launched in 2012....

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Electrical tape, the Maxxis tire sharpie of brake calipers

jonkranked wrote:

and still the same saint derailleur that launched in 2012....

It straight up works. Why change it? 

Man bike riders are a fickle bunch, not happy when a good product doesn't get updated or revised, not happy when a part constantly changes. 

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