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shreda
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11/18/2024 11:21pm

On the site the pricing looks very competitive. $1690 and includes push sv8? Hard to find details on the site if shock is included 

Eae903 wrote:

What was the password btw? 

Vacay - the name of the bike.

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11/19/2024 5:57am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2024 5:59am
Jotegr wrote:
Having messed around on the website, my impression is that it probably is a great bike for its intended purpose, a small wheeled (at least out...

Having messed around on the website, my impression is that it probably is a great bike for its intended purpose, a small wheeled (at least out back) bike meant for fun and messing about. For $1650, I can see why someone would be into this thing. If it was me I'd still wait for some real world reviews and probably see what the aftermarket support was like. 

That said, I thought this blurb was interesting: "With our Lift Technology, the 420/426 chainstays aren’t the only reason you will be manualing with ease; Lift Suspension Characteristics were implemented for everything from flat-drop-backflips, to simply lifting your front wheel over a log with ease". Particularly so because there appears to be no discussion on what "Lift Technology" actually is or what is special about the suspension design. We can make a number of assumptions (guessing it's not a rearward axle path...) but the info does leave something to be desired. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong though, maybe this bike wasn't designed to be ridden or liked by NERDS like those of us in this thread. 

 

It depends if you’re a poll asked and I want to go fast nerd or if you’re a nerd and you wanna make an Enduro bike...

It depends if you’re a poll asked and I want to go fast nerd or if you’re a nerd and you wanna make an Enduro bike into a small wheeled free ride slayer. To me this is the Geo that I’ve been looking for and if you listen to some interviews with him, he specifically states that it’s going to be one of the most progressive poppy feeling bikes possible.  I would love to see somebody much smarter than me like Cascade Componants jump in and tell me why zinc is either right or wrong but it’s nice to see the only company that’s going in the opposite direction.  They want to steep up head, angles, short and reach more and more fun instead of trying to make the fastest bike.

Specialized Status? Or more YT Jeffsy? It even looks like it 😎

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TimBud
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11/19/2024 9:46am

Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

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11/19/2024 10:08am

Specialized Status? Or more YT Jeffsy? It even looks like it 😎

The first time I saw him on the vacay, not knowing he was off or soon to be off Devinci, I asked if it was an old Spartan prototype.

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rustle
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11/19/2024 10:12am
Jotegr wrote:
I'm not sure why anyone would be chomping at the bit so much that they HAD to be first on the order books to pay full...

I'm not sure why anyone would be chomping at the bit so much that they HAD to be first on the order books to pay full price for a frame from a brand new company who:

1. has no reason to be instilled with consumer confidence or trust other than marketing and a solid spokesperson/owner (i.e. limited info out there on the bike, no reviews, no history of other platforms, no history of customer relations, etc); and

2. has no real bespoke or novel tech, particularly progressive geometry, or other reason to try this before everyone else other than "Look, it's a 27.5  bike in 2025! Wow!" (why is it better than all the 27.5 freeride ish bikes released earlier? We don't know - see point 1, no reviews). 

Sure, it could be really good but there's nothing there that is so compelling I'd be trying to guess a password so I can... give them money to try a bike. There's no brand history or credibility here other than the fact it's got Zink's name on it. I don't mean to be an abject hater but... if I wanted one, I'd wait and see that it was at least competent and they had good aftermarket support. Maybe I'm just getting cautious in my old age and I'm not down with the freeride kids anymore. Remember guys, your lifetime warranty is limited by the company's lifetime too!

Edit: oh it's the original name of the brand. Clever. 

rustle wrote:

So you weren't able to guess the password?

Jotegr wrote:

It was very easy lol

I guessed Hot Dogs. That isn’t it. 

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11/19/2024 10:18am
rustle wrote:

So you weren't able to guess the password?

Jotegr wrote:

It was very easy lol

rustle wrote:

I guessed Hot Dogs. That isn’t it. 

it's "vacay"

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11/19/2024 2:20pm
TimBud wrote:
Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

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I'd hope to see them increase the seat tube insertion on the 150 to be similar to the 170 with a straight tube. 

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11/19/2024 2:27pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2024 2:29pm
Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

IMG 7227Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

160/150 MX, 420 chainstays, 64-65 HA, 300mm seat tube insertion.  That sounds like a radically fun bike Zink, stoked to hear more.  

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MattD
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11/19/2024 4:14pm
Jotegr wrote:
Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with...

Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with a long travel treatment akin to the current one going 170/160 in some models for 2025. 

lando wrote:
Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170...

Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170 to 170/160. I love the big travel of the Range and would be bummed to miss out on it.

mrdimi wrote:
Not sure where I read, probably here LOL, it but it sounds like the Range is being phased out and they will go with two Sights...

Not sure where I read, probably here LOL, it but it sounds like the Range is being phased out and they will go with two Sights, regular and long-travel and the Range will be replaced by the new DH bike.  Probably cheaper to keep the Sight covering two categories with the same frame with different shocks and bring the in-development DH bike for the >180mm travel folks.  

Yup, I've had one on order for a while.

They are up on the Norco website now.

https://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/all-mountain/sight/25-sight-C1-MX-…

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monarchmason
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11/19/2024 9:05pm

Honestly I wish Zink lurked here and would have named his new company Crab Bikes and gave us a sick crab head tube badge.

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11/20/2024 4:55am
TimBud wrote:
Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

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jasbushey wrote:

I'd hope to see them increase the seat tube insertion on the 150 to be similar to the 170 with a straight tube. 

I can't seem to find that IG post anymore but if I remember reading it right the S150 is going to be MX which would give them the ability to move the pivot point and make the seat tube straight like the 170 bikes. 

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11/20/2024 7:45am

Forestal just dropped their first non-ebikes, I think they're looking pretty clean. 

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11/20/2024 8:37am
TimBud wrote:
Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

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S150 tomorrow…

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Evil96
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11/20/2024 9:47am

There’s another countdown on intend instagram

Could be that shock, could be the trail caliper 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

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11/20/2024 9:48am

Maybe it's a 9th fork model.  

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11/20/2024 2:15pm
cmaac wrote:
Norco dropped their Sight 160 online today - full build with the long stroke. https://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/all-mountain/sight/25-sight-C1-MX-160/edit: didnt press enter the first time around and the photo didnt upload! 

Norco dropped their Sight 160 online today - full build with the long stroke. 

Screenshot 2024-11-20 at 11.27.11%E2%80%AFAM

https://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/all-mountain/sight/25-sight-C1-MX-160/

edit: didnt press enter the first time around and the photo didnt upload! 

Weird sizing

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11/20/2024 2:44pm
kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

The Bronson is a big burly frame for a "trail bike", and there's much room between the rear wheel and the seat tube when bottomed out so I wouldn't be surprised you could get significantly more than 150mm of travel with a longer stroke shock.

It completely dwarves the V1 Megatower.

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MauiMax
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11/20/2024 6:15pm

The only thing a little disappointing with the zink bike is the shortest reach being 464. For a freeride bike i think something a little shorter in the 450 range would have been ideal. Im only 5'9" and can ride 460 reach but for a play bike it would be a little bit much

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11/20/2024 10:36pm Edited Date/Time 11/20/2024 10:46pm

Has anyone heard news about CRC, Nukeproof and Vitus? Last I heard someone bought everything, but that was months ago… That VT-01 downhill proto from Vitus was pretty badass and was the perfect next iteration both for the Dominer and for the Sommet, not sure if it would have worked also for the Escarpe, but with a shorter shock… Smile

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11/20/2024 11:08pm
Has anyone heard news about CRC, Nukeproof and Vitus? Last I heard someone bought everything, but that was months ago… That VT-01 downhill proto from Vitus...

Has anyone heard news about CRC, Nukeproof and Vitus? Last I heard someone bought everything, but that was months ago… That VT-01 downhill proto from Vitus was pretty badass and was the perfect next iteration both for the Dominer and for the Sommet, not sure if it would have worked also for the Escarpe, but with a shorter shock… Smile

IIRC CRC/wiggle inventory was bought by sports direct (got a great deal on Sam Hill signature pedals few weeks ago, I believe they are still in stock), but I dont think there has been any development on IP...

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11/21/2024 3:02am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 3:03am
Has anyone heard news about CRC, Nukeproof and Vitus? Last I heard someone bought everything, but that was months ago… That VT-01 downhill proto from Vitus...

Has anyone heard news about CRC, Nukeproof and Vitus? Last I heard someone bought everything, but that was months ago… That VT-01 downhill proto from Vitus was pretty badass and was the perfect next iteration both for the Dominer and for the Sommet, not sure if it would have worked also for the Escarpe, but with a shorter shock… Smile

Karabuka wrote:
IIRC CRC/wiggle inventory was bought by sports direct (got a great deal on Sam Hill signature pedals few weeks ago, I believe they are still in...

IIRC CRC/wiggle inventory was bought by sports direct (got a great deal on Sam Hill signature pedals few weeks ago, I believe they are still in stock), but I dont think there has been any development on IP...

This - Sports Direct (Mike Ashley..) bought it all up. They also operate Evans Cycles - if you go to their site you'll see some bits and pieces but its not a great shop. General view is that Mike Ashley is a parasite and tends to strip anything of value from his stores - Evans Cycles used to be a well respected family run group of shops, with good quality kit.. Not anymore. I'd be surprised if he isnt trying to sell the NP branding and IP as it actually has value, but he'll probably want more than its actually worth.

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11/21/2024 3:57am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 3:59am
TimBud wrote:
Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

Atherton A150 and A200 “soon”

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S150 tomorrow…

S150 tomorrow…

The photos are already on the other site

https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/27520934/

 

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11/21/2024 7:36am

atherton s.150 launch video

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11/21/2024 10:11am

Wow! That head tube area is hideous!

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11/21/2024 11:45am
Dave Waugh wrote:

Wow! That head tube area is hideous!

Smart design though given where the frame stresses are.

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HexonJuan
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11/21/2024 11:54am
Dave Waugh wrote:

Wow! That head tube area is hideous!

Agreed. Unpopular opinion to have around these parts, but there's something very plumbing-esque about it.

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Mwood
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11/21/2024 12:54pm

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

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11/21/2024 1:04pm
Mwood wrote:
Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/ Blow it up for him!  I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain...

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

Thats interesting if it doesnt have any negative effect on pedaling. If its a low enough break away force to not have to pedal any harder it could be cool. Im wondering if the bike going through its suspension could generate enough force to bring it off the magnet though 

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