Honestly, doesn't look bad. The clamp is improved and matchmaker-ish compatible, the hose coupling is a quickfit and the fitting is as small as the hose...
Honestly, doesn't look bad. The clamp is improved and matchmaker-ish compatible, the hose coupling is a quickfit and the fitting is as small as the hose, meaning internal routing should be a breeze without any need to cut the hose everytime you need to take the brake off the bike. The only question now is if the master cylinder is still plastic.
This, Mavens, Trickstuff and other boutique brands plus the rumored Shimano development sure does look like there is a step change in braking performance about to be unleashed on the general public.
There was talk of a new Saint brake in this thread that would be 6 piston, would have modulation, modern high end braking power and Shimano ease of bleeding...
You can see what I assume is the new Stumpy in Charlie Murrays recent youtube video while he's interviewing Richie at about the 9:30 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBca_Mz84ls
You can see what I assume is the new Stumpy in Charlie Murrays recent youtube video while he's interviewing Richie at about the 9:30 mark
The most exciting feature delivered with the new EP801 firmware update is the extended assist carryover when the rider stops pedaling. This is a key race advantage…
Now we’re talking! Push this a little farther and we can call the one good, strong kickstart a pedal stroke and give me a few thousand seconds of ‘carryover’. That’ll getcha up the local hill :D
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
Mavens eh? Sounds like sram is running away from Codes as quick as possible.
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool to see a frame manufacturer working in tandem with a company like Fox to push innovation in a meaningful way (beyond electronic gnomes spinning compression dials).
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
If it is the SJ, I wonder if it’s the S-Works spec? Mavens and a proprietary shock doesn’t sound particularly entry level or even mid spec range. I hope I’m wrong though! If it is the S-works, hopefully you don’t have to have perfect teeth to afford it…
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool...
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool to see a frame manufacturer working in tandem with a company like Fox to push innovation in a meaningful way (beyond electronic gnomes spinning compression dials).
Like Fox Brain or Reaktiv? Not really excited for a bike coming with a special shock. The past shown it was never a way to go. What a bummer if true.
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool...
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool to see a frame manufacturer working in tandem with a company like Fox to push innovation in a meaningful way (beyond electronic gnomes spinning compression dials).
Bigger companies working with proprietary shocks is historically not awesome.
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
Vitus specified inline shocks on its most recent Escarpe, which developed 140 mm from a 65 mm stroke. By many accounts it worked pretty well because of the unusually low average leverage rate. Similar situation?
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline...
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
If it is the SJ, I wonder if it’s the S-Works spec? Mavens and a proprietary shock doesn’t sound particularly entry level or even mid spec...
If it is the SJ, I wonder if it’s the S-Works spec? Mavens and a proprietary shock doesn’t sound particularly entry level or even mid spec range. I hope I’m wrong though! If it is the S-works, hopefully you don’t have to have perfect teeth to afford it…
Doesn't have to be S tier build to have proprietary suspension. Take the Trek Supercaliber or Specialized Epic WC for example. They just omit the kashima coating and fancy components on cheaper builds.
Regardless, less stoked to hear that Specialized might be going back to proprietary suspension. It is highly unlikely that Fox is releasing another shock in their newly revised lineup (Float SL, Float, Float X). It sounds like this new stumpy would be using a modified version of the new Float.
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool...
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool to see a frame manufacturer working in tandem with a company like Fox to push innovation in a meaningful way (beyond electronic gnomes spinning compression dials).
you mean like what cannondale did with fox on their dyad pull shocks and what scott is doing for years (also with fox) on their nude shocks? how did that turn out?
those shocks were/are hot garbage compared to normal shocks.
If it is the SJ, I wonder if it’s the S-Works spec? Mavens and a proprietary shock doesn’t sound particularly entry level or even mid spec...
If it is the SJ, I wonder if it’s the S-Works spec? Mavens and a proprietary shock doesn’t sound particularly entry level or even mid spec range. I hope I’m wrong though! If it is the S-works, hopefully you don’t have to have perfect teeth to afford it…
Doesn't have to be S tier build to have proprietary suspension. Take the Trek Supercaliber or Specialized Epic WC for example. They just omit the kashima...
Doesn't have to be S tier build to have proprietary suspension. Take the Trek Supercaliber or Specialized Epic WC for example. They just omit the kashima coating and fancy components on cheaper builds.
Regardless, less stoked to hear that Specialized might be going back to proprietary suspension. It is highly unlikely that Fox is releasing another shock in their newly revised lineup (Float SL, Float, Float X). It sounds like this new stumpy would be using a modified version of the new Float.
maybe they're trying to have a strong enough shock that doesn't fail with the yoke, considering what happened when they put their hands into a shock ( autosag ) it's gonna be a hot piece of shit most likely
I got a Float X with the Gemini air sleeve that Cannondale used for a while for my Bird. A remote controls a valve between the main chamber and the sleeve.
Could be that my bike was just too progressive even for the full volume as the difference was pretty negligable so I just put a standard HV air can on it.
There was talk of a new Saint brake in this thread that would be 6 piston, would have modulation, modern high end braking power and Shimano...
There was talk of a new Saint brake in this thread that would be 6 piston, would have modulation, modern high end braking power and Shimano ease of bleeding...
First time i hear or read about a 6-pot Saint - must have missed it here! Doubt it as all others keep making 4-pots with immense power - a 6-potter will be quite heavy compared to others!
On the Stumpy and proprietary shock. In the pinkbike podcast they discussed a new patented shock design that they use on the world cup. The way I heard it was the intention was to adjust the damper curve control the last 20% of travel in a more controlled manor than with tokens (or whatever a shock ramp is called). They said in order to get the feeling they want for 80% of the riding that they needed less progression of the design, but then blows through the end with a subset of aggressive riders (which is a common thing I heard from stumpy evo owners). One way aggressive riders handled this was a lot of ramp tokens, but then you lose some of the feeling in the beginning. The new shock would allow them to keep the same feeling off the top but have a more controllable and better feeling ramp.
How then I understood it was say if the first 1/2 of the travel is with 150psi, and the end is 70psi. To me it sounded sort of the Diaz Suspension Runt concept in the shock.
the exact opposite of Treks/Fox DRCV shock. that was utterly crap btw. :D
They weren't that bad if you disabled the DRCV feature during a rebuild and just turned them into higher volume regular shocks with a weird eye to eye and stroke.
What rumored Shimano development?
There was talk of a new Saint brake in this thread that would be 6 piston, would have modulation, modern high end braking power and Shimano ease of bleeding...
some pit bits from EDR combloux
https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/pit-bits-edr-combloux
You can see what I assume is the new Stumpy in Charlie Murrays recent youtube video while he's interviewing Richie at about the 9:30 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBca_Mz84ls
MinimalSend
Looks like the current stumpy. Still has the frame cross bar on the other side of the Rear Shock.
shimano launches race-specific firmware update for ep8
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/shimano-release-race-specif…
Higher Assist in Boost Mode
Customizable Max Speed Cutoff
Uninterrupted Power Delivery
The most exciting feature delivered with the new EP801 firmware update is the extended assist carryover when the rider stops pedaling. This is a key race advantage…
Now we’re talking! Push this a little farther and we can call the one good, strong kickstart a pedal stroke and give me a few thousand seconds of ‘carryover’. That’ll getcha up the local hill :D
Maxxis Minion DHR II 2.5 is now here, 29 and 27.5
https://shop.maxxis.com/collections/mountain/products/minion-dhr-ii?var… (just one of the offerings)
Get 'em while they're hot gang!
NoSend
I have an unreleased 140/150mm bike in the shop that comes stock with a Fox 36 and Mavens type build kit with a completely new inline fox shock with the bike manufacturers logo on it and a HUGE air can. It's very strange to see an inline shock on a build like this so I'm interested in whats going on with it. Apparently next week we'll know.
It kind of looks like an RP23 with a high volume air can but 1.5x the size
That’ll be the Stumpy.
Fair play to Specialized for keeping it out of sight so well
Mavens eh? Sounds like sram is running away from Codes as quick as possible.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-patents-strange-air-shock-sho…
I think the shock was also hinted at in the most recent podcast between specialized and PB. Really curious about how it performs and pretty cool to see a frame manufacturer working in tandem with a company like Fox to push innovation in a meaningful way (beyond electronic gnomes spinning compression dials).
If it is the SJ, I wonder if it’s the S-Works spec? Mavens and a proprietary shock doesn’t sound particularly entry level or even mid spec range. I hope I’m wrong though! If it is the S-works, hopefully you don’t have to have perfect teeth to afford it…
Like Fox Brain or Reaktiv? Not really excited for a bike coming with a special shock. The past shown it was never a way to go. What a bummer if true.
Bigger companies working with proprietary shocks is historically not awesome.
Mine should be arriving on Saturday!
Vitus specified inline shocks on its most recent Escarpe, which developed 140 mm from a 65 mm stroke. By many accounts it worked pretty well because of the unusually low average leverage rate. Similar situation?
next year the g2 will be the cross country, codes for trail, maven for enduro and dh
Doesn't have to be S tier build to have proprietary suspension. Take the Trek Supercaliber or Specialized Epic WC for example. They just omit the kashima coating and fancy components on cheaper builds.
Regardless, less stoked to hear that Specialized might be going back to proprietary suspension. It is highly unlikely that Fox is releasing another shock in their newly revised lineup (Float SL, Float, Float X). It sounds like this new stumpy would be using a modified version of the new Float.
you mean like what cannondale did with fox on their dyad pull shocks and what scott is doing for years (also with fox) on their nude shocks? how did that turn out?
those shocks were/are hot garbage compared to normal shocks.
maybe they're trying to have a strong enough shock that doesn't fail with the yoke, considering what happened when they put their hands into a shock ( autosag ) it's gonna be a hot piece of shit most likely
I got a Float X with the Gemini air sleeve that Cannondale used for a while for my Bird. A remote controls a valve between the main chamber and the sleeve.
Could be that my bike was just too progressive even for the full volume as the difference was pretty negligable so I just put a standard HV air can on it.
First time i hear or read about a 6-pot Saint - must have missed it here! Doubt it as all others keep making 4-pots with immense power - a 6-potter will be quite heavy compared to others!
On the Stumpy and proprietary shock. In the pinkbike podcast they discussed a new patented shock design that they use on the world cup. The way I heard it was the intention was to adjust the damper curve control the last 20% of travel in a more controlled manor than with tokens (or whatever a shock ramp is called). They said in order to get the feeling they want for 80% of the riding that they needed less progression of the design, but then blows through the end with a subset of aggressive riders (which is a common thing I heard from stumpy evo owners). One way aggressive riders handled this was a lot of ramp tokens, but then you lose some of the feeling in the beginning. The new shock would allow them to keep the same feeling off the top but have a more controllable and better feeling ramp.
How then I understood it was say if the first 1/2 of the travel is with 150psi, and the end is 70psi. To me it sounded sort of the Diaz Suspension Runt concept in the shock.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/62Y7zBc4iQYr7t2L3ytJ7V?si=3a385e00aad3…; This is at 1:01.
the exact opposite of Treks/Fox DRCV shock. that was utterly crap btw. :D
They weren't that bad if you disabled the DRCV feature during a rebuild and just turned them into higher volume regular shocks with a weird eye to eye and stroke.