MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

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Ducki
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10/17/2023 11:50pm

In the right picture is the "old" Altitude! 

10/18/2023 7:18am

Not at all, they're openly marketing this bike to smaller sized people. Knolly also says this is the first bike to pave the way for their 6th gen designs, meaning we'll likely see the release of bikes that include XL sizing and full 29" wheel options.

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veefour
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10/18/2023 9:26am
saskskier wrote:

Not including XL seems weird, no?

Not at all, they're openly marketing this bike to smaller sized people. Knolly also says this is the first bike to pave the way for their...

Not at all, they're openly marketing this bike to smaller sized people. Knolly also says this is the first bike to pave the way for their 6th gen designs, meaning we'll likely see the release of bikes that include XL sizing and full 29" wheel options.

Endwarfin?

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noodlenosteeze
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10/18/2023 10:04am

Probably the fresh Jeffsy as discussed in this thread but just got this sent to my inbox  

https://us.yt-industries.com/thepower?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&…

jazza_wil wrote:
Chance of a lifetime sounds like a competition but then they have a count down timer on their website. Wording could be taken different ways  

Chance of a lifetime sounds like a competition but then they have a count down timer on their website. Wording could be taken different ways  D66C1004-A296-4BB7-A404-D49545A8A24A

Yeah probably right. Something to oddly look forward to. 
 

edit. Looking at the link again, it says Jeffsy so probably a Jeffsy thing. 

Marketing departments messing up links/photo names/file names always gets a good chuckle out of me. Laughing

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10/18/2023 4:52pm
Personal gripe on website announcements is when they offer multiple builds but don't have photos of each one. (I know updated pictures will come later, just...

Personal gripe on website announcements is when they offer multiple builds but don't have photos of each one. (I know updated pictures will come later, just bugs me)

 

Fantastic looking bike anyways.

True…especially when that champagne color looks so damn good

10/18/2023 4:54pm
Personal gripe on website announcements is when they offer multiple builds but don't have photos of each one. (I know updated pictures will come later, just...

Personal gripe on website announcements is when they offer multiple builds but don't have photos of each one. (I know updated pictures will come later, just bugs me)

 

Fantastic looking bike anyways.

True…especially when that champagne color looks so damn good

Yeah, looks like a winner. 

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10/19/2023 1:16am

EXT dual crown 0.JPG?VersionId=tkh

Hopefully that maybe is soon

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samdaman1
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10/19/2023 9:22am
Sir HC wrote:
Hopefully that maybe is soon

EXT dual crown 0.JPG?VersionId=tkh

Hopefully that maybe is soon

Given that the Era uses an X-Fusion chassis (the same goes for the upcoming Fast coil fork), I wonder if this would have happened sooner if they offered an RV1 chassis for 29 inch wheels? And on that note, does anyone know if there is a new RV1 coming? or any news on the prototype air shock that was on Tom Van Steenburgen's Rampage bike? 

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Jakub_G
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10/19/2023 11:18am
Sir HC wrote:
Hopefully that maybe is soon

EXT dual crown 0.JPG?VersionId=tkh

Hopefully that maybe is soon

samdaman1 wrote:
Given that the Era uses an X-Fusion chassis (the same goes for the upcoming Fast coil fork), I wonder if this would have happened sooner if...

Given that the Era uses an X-Fusion chassis (the same goes for the upcoming Fast coil fork), I wonder if this would have happened sooner if they offered an RV1 chassis for 29 inch wheels? And on that note, does anyone know if there is a new RV1 coming? or any news on the prototype air shock that was on Tom Van Steenburgen's Rampage bike? 

Era doesn't use x fusion lowers for some time now.

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10/19/2023 11:21am

Apologies if this has been posted already; new mirror saddle from Spesh? 
 

IMG 7771.png?VersionId=x

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10/19/2023 12:24pm
dolface wrote:
Apologies if this has been posted already; new mirror saddle from Spesh?   

Apologies if this has been posted already; new mirror saddle from Spesh? 
 

IMG 7771.png?VersionId=x

L.Shaw to Specialized, along with 6000 others!

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10/19/2023 1:00pm
fartsack wrote:

altitude will go full santa cruz anyway. Wink

metadave wrote:

Not full SC, but not dissimilar 

Ducki wrote:
  Come on guys....

 

Come on guys....Silly

20231017-170621-003

As I said. Totally different.

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Fantasy
10/19/2023 2:32pm

 

Looks like Jack has a new Jeffsy built up and filming an edit.

 

IMG 1195 0

 

10/19/2023 5:43pm
dolface wrote:
Apologies if this has been posted already; new mirror saddle from Spesh?   

Apologies if this has been posted already; new mirror saddle from Spesh? 
 

IMG 7771.png?VersionId=x

Looks like the shape of a Toupe. Would make sense and would be about time that this model get a mirror version.

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NY_Star
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10/19/2023 6:40pm

From the other site, most likely a rendering but KYB single crown USD fork and a coil shock? I'm here for it thats for sure.

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10/19/2023 10:42pm
Noeserd wrote:

Straight top tube knollys looks cursed

What? I think it looks great. More importantly they mentioned the move to having all links containing bearings. I know someone mentioned that before they used...

What? I think it looks great. More importantly they mentioned the move to having all links containing bearings. I know someone mentioned that before they used bushings in one of the links and it would cause a lot of stiction. 

They made a running change to remove the bushings on the current gen of bikes. My 2022 warden has bushings and my new chilcotin has bearings.

I’m curious how the new one piece shock link is an improvement and if they will sell them for the older bikes.

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10/21/2023 2:35am
NY_Star wrote:
From the other site, most likely a rendering but KYB single crown USD fork and a coil shock? I'm here for it thats for sure.

From the other site, most likely a rendering but KYB single crown USD fork and a coil shock? I'm here for it thats for sure.

Does anybody know what is the thing mounted under the stem? Looks weird

10/21/2023 2:45am
NY_Star wrote:
From the other site, most likely a rendering but KYB single crown USD fork and a coil shock? I'm here for it thats for sure.

From the other site, most likely a rendering but KYB single crown USD fork and a coil shock? I'm here for it thats for sure.

orrhadar wrote:

Does anybody know what is the thing mounted under the stem? Looks weird

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Primoz
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10/21/2023 12:59pm

Why not just use some magnets and aluminium? And make it wholly passive. It's possible you'd need huge magnets though...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZfksQw7M0sE

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10/21/2023 7:35pm Edited Date/Time 10/21/2023 8:09pm

Longtime lurker, first time poster. Cheers Vital! 

There's  some better pictures of that Yamaha prototype here. Definitely a real bike, and not a mockup. Those KYB suspension pieces are droolworthy for sure. Especially the shock which is labeled 65 on the coil. Hopefully that's a 205x65mm? One can only hope.

global.yamaha-motor.com/showroom/event/japan-mobilityshow-2023/ypj

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10/21/2023 7:51pm

that gravel thing is so wrong it looks right for some reason.

Thanks Marketing guy.

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Primoz
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10/21/2023 10:29pm

Holy Batman that drive sprocket size... Also, bolt clamp crowns, should do wonders for stiffness... 

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10/21/2023 10:38pm

Last Yamaha I owned is the one in my garage. Tongue

But it runs on race gas and Golden Spectro, not electricity.

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10/22/2023 3:22am Edited Date/Time 10/22/2023 3:39am
Primoz wrote:

Holy Batman that drive sprocket size... Also, bolt clamp crowns, should do wonders for stiffness... 

There are some better pictures here;

https://global.yamaha-motor.com/showroom/event/japan-mobilityshow-2023/…

Looks to me like the front triangle is fabricated in 2 halves, then bolted together too.

Their AWD adventure bike is seriously nuts.

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Dave_Camp
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10/22/2023 6:55am Edited Date/Time 10/22/2023 6:58am

7t idler pulley!  Come on Yamaha
 

 

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ERGue
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10/22/2023 8:13am Edited Date/Time 10/22/2023 8:14am

Suspension designed around an Ochain? From the the recent PB pod with Neko, sounds like he designed his axle path to be almost vertical with a high pivot point but sans idler, meaning probably lots of chain growth, but with an Ochain, problem solved! Seems like a great idea especially for an Enduro rig where pedaling efficiency is a priority. 

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10/22/2023 8:43am
ERGue wrote:
Suspension designed around an Ochain? From the the recent PB pod with Neko, sounds like he designed his axle path to be almost vertical with a...

Suspension designed around an Ochain? From the the recent PB pod with Neko, sounds like he designed his axle path to be almost vertical with a high pivot point but sans idler, meaning probably lots of chain growth, but with an Ochain, problem solved! Seems like a great idea especially for an Enduro rig where pedaling efficiency is a priority. 

Yeah if you go back to his early YouTube videos he tests a high pivot version with no OChain vs low pivot with Ochain.  
 

The OChain in -9 or -12 can make a big difference, if you pair it with low engagement hub it’s amplified this feel, but the slop at start of pedal stroke is something to get used to.  For a downhill bike or park bike there’s not much of a downside using this device.

The next level that I’m working on is grinding down my smallest cog as a “neutral” gear for descending. This is with no Ochain. I heard about this setup on the PB podcast with Troy Brosnan.

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