2024 Racing Talk

1/10/2024 1:38am
BGoldstone wrote:
"The jersey shall be a long-sleeved shirt whose sleeves extend down to the rider's wrists. Jerseys used in downhill events should be of a type specifically...

"The jersey shall be a long-sleeved shirt whose sleeves extend down to the rider's wrists. Jerseys used in downhill events should be of a type specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Jerseys designed for road cycling, skinsuits, or one-piece suits comprising the jersey and the pants/shorts are not permitted for use in downhill events.

The jersey must be either close fitting around the waist or must be tucked into the pants before the start to not cause interference."

Now taking bets on a rule change to permit the onesie before long...

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1/10/2024 6:53am
iceman2058 wrote:

Now taking bets on a rule change to permit the onesie before long...

Honestly, that MX suit looks fine to me, you can barely tell they are not wearing onesies in most races (DH and MX).

I actually bought a TLD oversender to wear on days after rain to reduce the amount of mud being flicked inside my jersey and pants.

A onesie for daily MTBing could be really interesting as it might allow for larger less floppy pockets in the lower back (like road bibs), but getting the sizing right would be really hard, I imagine that MX is a custm fit.

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1/10/2024 11:43am

i measure up ppl proportionally each day, probably quite hard to make something that tight fitting that fits all. leg and arms lengths are all over the spectrum

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1/12/2024 2:12am

Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me.

Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused on Enduro but it applies to DH as well. 

 

That's how we end up with the lack of story telling / buildup of excitement throughout practice, qualifying, semis, and finals. It's also how we end up with drone shots from far away or shots that don't show the rider's lower body or bike, and cutting away from the rider mid run to show the team manager.

 

ESO simply isn't run by mountain bike racing fans. Additionally ESO is only focused on being the only one making money off of mountain bike racing coverage. If the sport gets smaller they don't care as long as they are making the money from it.

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1/12/2024 9:48am
iceman2058 wrote:

Now taking bets on a rule change to permit the onesie before long...

Mugen wrote:
Honestly, that MX suit looks fine to me, you can barely tell they are not wearing onesies in most races (DH and MX). I actually bought...

Honestly, that MX suit looks fine to me, you can barely tell they are not wearing onesies in most races (DH and MX).

I actually bought a TLD oversender to wear on days after rain to reduce the amount of mud being flicked inside my jersey and pants.

A onesie for daily MTBing could be really interesting as it might allow for larger less floppy pockets in the lower back (like road bibs), but getting the sizing right would be really hard, I imagine that MX is a custm fit.

You sound slim.  I overheat just looking at overalls.

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1/12/2024 1:34pm
Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me. Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused...

Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me.

Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused on Enduro but it applies to DH as well. 

 

That's how we end up with the lack of story telling / buildup of excitement throughout practice, qualifying, semis, and finals. It's also how we end up with drone shots from far away or shots that don't show the rider's lower body or bike, and cutting away from the rider mid run to show the team manager.

 

ESO simply isn't run by mountain bike racing fans. Additionally ESO is only focused on being the only one making money off of mountain bike racing coverage. If the sport gets smaller they don't care as long as they are making the money from it.

Chris Ball literally created the EWS

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1/12/2024 2:10pm
Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me. Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused...

Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me.

Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused on Enduro but it applies to DH as well. 

 

That's how we end up with the lack of story telling / buildup of excitement throughout practice, qualifying, semis, and finals. It's also how we end up with drone shots from far away or shots that don't show the rider's lower body or bike, and cutting away from the rider mid run to show the team manager.

 

ESO simply isn't run by mountain bike racing fans. Additionally ESO is only focused on being the only one making money off of mountain bike racing coverage. If the sport gets smaller they don't care as long as they are making the money from it.

Chris Ball literally created the EWS

Yes. 

Then he sold it and hasn't been seen all of last season.

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1/12/2024 7:27pm
iceman2058 wrote:

Now taking bets on a rule change to permit the onesie before long...

Mugen wrote:
Honestly, that MX suit looks fine to me, you can barely tell they are not wearing onesies in most races (DH and MX). I actually bought...

Honestly, that MX suit looks fine to me, you can barely tell they are not wearing onesies in most races (DH and MX).

I actually bought a TLD oversender to wear on days after rain to reduce the amount of mud being flicked inside my jersey and pants.

A onesie for daily MTBing could be really interesting as it might allow for larger less floppy pockets in the lower back (like road bibs), but getting the sizing right would be really hard, I imagine that MX is a custm fit.

on the vital mx post race show for A1 they talk about the suit. ML made it seem like it was coming to MTB but IDK if he know the rules. He also talks about how its a very tailored fit and its only being built per rider currently.

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1/13/2024 12:06am
Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me. Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused...

Listening to The Ride companion podcast with Bernard Kerr one thing he mentioned stood out to me.

Discovery/ESO don't understand mountain biking. He mentioned it focused on Enduro but it applies to DH as well. 

 

That's how we end up with the lack of story telling / buildup of excitement throughout practice, qualifying, semis, and finals. It's also how we end up with drone shots from far away or shots that don't show the rider's lower body or bike, and cutting away from the rider mid run to show the team manager.

 

ESO simply isn't run by mountain bike racing fans. Additionally ESO is only focused on being the only one making money off of mountain bike racing coverage. If the sport gets smaller they don't care as long as they are making the money from it.

Chris Ball literally created the EWS

Yes. 

Then he sold it and hasn't been seen all of last season.

Aluminum foil things

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1/14/2024 10:07pm

Has anyone seen any information to confirm that u21 EDR racing is going ahead this year. They scrapped masters without telling anyone in 2023 and I can’t seem to find any confirmation of a continuation of u21 racing 

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Jrp wrote:
Has anyone seen any information to confirm that u21 EDR racing is going ahead this year. They scrapped masters without telling anyone in 2023 and I...

Has anyone seen any information to confirm that u21 EDR racing is going ahead this year. They scrapped masters without telling anyone in 2023 and I can’t seem to find any confirmation of a continuation of u21 racing 

Did they scrap Master's racing? There were multiple masters categories at all enduro world cups with Open racing in 2023. You can't have a "masters world cup" really. Well you could. But with the shift from EWS to World Cup EDR, it makes sense to leave the masters racing in the Open category.

Anyway, to answer your question, I hope there will be an U21 category for enduro world cups in '24, as anything else would be a catastrophe. 

 

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1/15/2024 3:32am
Jrp wrote:
Has anyone seen any information to confirm that u21 EDR racing is going ahead this year. They scrapped masters without telling anyone in 2023 and I...

Has anyone seen any information to confirm that u21 EDR racing is going ahead this year. They scrapped masters without telling anyone in 2023 and I can’t seem to find any confirmation of a continuation of u21 racing 

Mr.Nally wrote:
Did they scrap Master's racing? There were multiple masters categories at all enduro world cups with Open racing in 2023. You can't have a "masters world...

Did they scrap Master's racing? There were multiple masters categories at all enduro world cups with Open racing in 2023. You can't have a "masters world cup" really. Well you could. But with the shift from EWS to World Cup EDR, it makes sense to leave the masters racing in the Open category.

Anyway, to answer your question, I hope there will be an U21 category for enduro world cups in '24, as anything else would be a catastrophe. 

 

Has anyone seen any information even suggesting that U21 is getting the elbow? 

Are the people posing all these questions casting doubt on the future of WC enduro racing supporting it's demise? *

*I don't believe that's the case, but I also don't believe that negative insinuations in order to create conversation works in it's favour either 

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1/15/2024 9:20am
sspomer wrote:
the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full

https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

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To all the SoCal natives, who is the next AG on that Results sheet?

Call your shot!

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1/15/2024 12:48pm
sspomer wrote:
the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full

https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

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bizutch wrote:

To all the SoCal natives, who is the next AG on that Results sheet?

Call your shot!

The one with the win by 8 seconds

1/15/2024 12:52pm
sspomer wrote:
the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full

https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

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bizutch wrote:

To all the SoCal natives, who is the next AG on that Results sheet?

Call your shot!

The one with the win by 8 seconds

Austin and Teagan both won by 8 seconds.

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1/16/2024 7:03am
sspomer wrote:
the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

the first fontucky of the year was this past weekend. screengrab of pro results (not a huge field). and link to full

https://www.southridgeusa.com/1-14-24dhresults/

Screen Shot 2024-01-15 at 9.47.24 AM

bizutch wrote:

To all the SoCal natives, who is the next AG on that Results sheet?

Call your shot!

The one with the win by 8 seconds

I don't think I realized Dooley is only 22. Good deal.

I was referring to a sleeper DH "dabbler" new to the scene. Dooley has raced Juniors and is putting in the long work.

I'm more referring to the meteor you've spotted & thought "Uh oh. If it clicks..."

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1/17/2024 8:05am

jackson on downtime podcast (just saw this, have yet to listen)

 

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1/17/2024 8:21am
sspomer wrote:
jackson on downtime podcast (just saw this, have yet to listen)  

jackson on downtime podcast (just saw this, have yet to listen)

 

It is, as are almost all the Downtimes, excellent!

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1/17/2024 10:16am Edited Date/Time 1/17/2024 10:16am
sspomer wrote:
jackson on downtime podcast (just saw this, have yet to listen)  

jackson on downtime podcast (just saw this, have yet to listen)

 

dolface wrote:

It is, as are almost all the Downtimes, excellent!

Truth.

The Inside Line pod has also been very much on point lately, well done Spomer.

 

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1/19/2024 8:19am

thanks! in 2024 news, can i just say that i can't wait to see amaury on the track again? assuming he's healthy, he's going to mix up everything 2023 was about : )

 

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1/19/2024 10:58am

Jackson vs Amaury vs Bruni vs Finn vs the pack of wild dogs nipping at all their heals is going to be glorious in '24. Now only if there was a reasonable to actually watch it. 

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1/22/2024 9:50am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2024 11:38am

results and a couple pics from bootleg this past weekend and Southwest Regional Gravity Championships. Asa won by 30 seconds. Fields weren't huge, but January #USDH is always good. There wasn't a Pro Women's class. just Cat 1 and below

Full results link - https://www.bootlegcanyonracing.com/_files/ugd/b50f6d_fccf7ba08a974a14b…

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a couple pics thanks to ryan cowling of Kore North!

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1/22/2024 12:56pm

30 second margin? Sheeeesh. I don't know all of that Pro field, but the ones I do know are not slow. By any means. 

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1/22/2024 1:22pm

30 second margin? Sheeeesh. I don't know all of that Pro field, but the ones I do know are not slow. By any means. 

Used to, pros drove all over the country to get a couple UCI points and were chomping at the bit to find a DH race too.
Bootleg used to be a STACKED field this time of year just to get in a race.

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1/23/2024 8:17am

i homepage this as well, but danny following eddie in Queenstown for the NZ southern DH series...holy crap they're gnarly! they just gap and float and smash without a flinch.

if anyone has links to race results for stuff like this, blast them here or send 'em to me and i can post.

 

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1/23/2024 8:21am
wow, Asa is not holding back.. can't wait to see his first worldcup.. on top of that the kid is super likable..He is the next American...

wow, Asa is not holding back.. can't wait to see his first worldcup.. on top of that the kid is super likable..He is the next American Hero!

Does he race JR world cup this year? or still has to wait?

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