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+1 for the old graphics

I took it as felt in the form of pedal kickback, but point taken. PS. Love the Username!

O-chain is not maintenance intensive in my experience. I'm on a used one for the past 2 park seasons and have had no reason to open it up yet. If the DT option performs like the Sidekick then I could see myself running that and selling the O-Chain to fund putting the DT Sidekick on all my bikes.

Mic commented on that post and claimed he has nothing to do with whatever is going on in that dt hub. Something dt is likely working on

Can we move this to the suspension thread please

I thought I saw on here that the DT sidekick internals will be able to be swapped into current hubs like the WRP ones.

I thought that shock had popped up in this thread but maybe it was Pinkbike. The speculation (note that it's only speculation) was Bilstein.

I’m up in the ochain gang too. OO and some of the other mob were on ochain but are not this year. Pretty sure I read on here about a dt Swiss sidekick style hub so maybe he’s on that. Can anyone confirm the dt system or was I just tripping?

Doesn’t sram have the same overload protection, in case you hit something it recoils in then shifts back? I know GX AXS has it, and it works well in my experience.

This GX AXS RD has no clutch? GX Eagle AXS Derailleur | RD-GX-1E-A1 | SRAM

I think last time it took about a year?

XO is way beyond XT and closer to XTR , GX is more compareable to XT from my experience.

but you can't really compare wireless xtr to transmission, it's more like eagle axs and that was also compatible with existing 12 speed. shimano is 6 years late if we're being honest.

I'm a little surprised at the cost of the new Shimano drivetrain. I would consider it to replace my XO1 AXS shifter and derailleur (and move that to another bike) that I've been running with an XT chain and cassette. Almost $1,000 for shifter and derailleur is higher than I was expecting.

Is that not just the new Xysto that I believe he helped develop?

So new XTR headlines are: no cables, no clutch and the wandering bite point might be resolved? Am the only one who was hoping for some more tangible upgrades?

I am aswell, we still have gx AXS kits available. Same tech, similar speed and a no clutch proper clutch setup BUT Quite a bit cheaper, Currently you can Get GX axs for half the price of the XTR kit - whats the benefit of XTR? I Feel they've gone for the "LOOK we have fast shifting" even though Sram had the same kinda thing 5 years ago. I really like shimano drivetrains(other than the derailleurs breaking at the first blade of grass they hit) I was expecting good things from shimano for their new Wireless drivetrain and new Brakes...

Just want to throw praise Finn Iles way after his brillliant response to Wyns questions regarding the WBD broadcast on the wyntv Leogang track walk Video. I personally think Wyn has too much of a negative take generally regarding World Cup racing these days and it shows in his questions - Finns thoughtful response with suggestions to improve the current package without tearing anyone to shreds was great.

Wonder if I can sell my Slash+ by June 26th...