E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

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Something i noticed in the video report from bosch - When they release the 12A charger the Flow app will be able to control max charge...

Something i noticed in the video report from bosch - When they release the 12A charger the Flow app will be able to control max charge state such as 40-80% etc - for me this is huge, as i do alot of quick local rides and get several quick late night laps  over a week without recharging and id rather not leave it at 100% when i do a recharge.(ie ill ride 4 nights in a row and then not ride for a few days due to whatever reasons)

Anther note is Bosch said The 12A charge current is well below the threshold for their batteries and implied that leaving at 100% is worse, It was mentioned the battery will not show any degradation from the fast charging over its current life cycle 

 

Avinox can limit charge down to 80% as well

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new tazer tomorrow it seems.

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I bought an EXe when they first came out and bought a second battery at the same time.  Back then, you could purchase a second battery...

I bought an EXe when they first came out and bought a second battery at the same time.  Back then, you could purchase a second battery for a couple hundred dollars more than the range extender.  They weren't really anticipating people doing this.  You had to separately buy all the brackets to attach to the battery to attach it to the frame.  I think the pricing spread has moved substantially.

If you ride places where it's common to cruise back by the trailhead during the ride, this setup is amazing.  I also picked up a power station on black Friday for $200, so I can ride through one battery and then recharge it while I ride through the second battery, which allows me to ride through three batteries without any downtime.  I am can run lots of assist (for that bike), and I'm cooked long before I run out of battery.  The whole time I'm riding something that feels very, very much like a real bike.  I want my ebike to feel almost like a real bike, but turn nearly 50-year-old me into really fit, 21-year old me, and that's the experience I get.

I don't think that's where the industry is headed, but I do think there is a substantial minority that want that bike/experience.

Right now the TQ360 batteries are about the same price as the range extender.  It never made sense to be to get the range extender unless your flying with it.  My Osprey Raptor 14 will hold a spare battery perfect and like you said they charge extremely fast.  I really like the Fuel EXE or Fuel+ platform as them and Propain are really the only TQ bikes that have removeable batteries. 

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Right now the TQ360 batteries are about the same price as the range extender.  It never made sense to be to get the range extender unless...

Right now the TQ360 batteries are about the same price as the range extender.  It never made sense to be to get the range extender unless your flying with it.  My Osprey Raptor 14 will hold a spare battery perfect and like you said they charge extremely fast.  I really like the Fuel EXE or Fuel+ platform as them and Propain are really the only TQ bikes that have removeable batteries. 

Yeti's MTe also has a removable TQ battery.

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Something i noticed in the video report from bosch - When they release the 12A charger the Flow app will be able to control max charge...

Something i noticed in the video report from bosch - When they release the 12A charger the Flow app will be able to control max charge state such as 40-80% etc - for me this is huge, as i do alot of quick local rides and get several quick late night laps  over a week without recharging and id rather not leave it at 100% when i do a recharge.(ie ill ride 4 nights in a row and then not ride for a few days due to whatever reasons)

Anther note is Bosch said The 12A charge current is well below the threshold for their batteries and implied that leaving at 100% is worse, It was mentioned the battery will not show any degradation from the fast charging over its current life cycle 

 

That is true of the 800wh, but not necessarily the 600wh.

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Vessels new set up to have removable battery and interchangeable motors (patent pending mount) is pretty interesting 

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sethimus wrote:

(That frame colour is in the running for "most likely to age poorly", once a season of mud, dirt, scratches and sun take their toll.) edited comment: it's just a 3d print

Doesn't really look slimmer to me though, that the only knock against the velduro, aside from the name of course but Avinox bikes have really gone out of their way to find horrendous names in general.

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Its just a 3d printed concept at the moment.

 

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TimBud wrote:

Its just a 3d printed concept at the moment.

 

yes the rogue started the same a year ago

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With the news of Porsche shuttering its e-bike development arm, does anyone know what that means for Fazua?

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bermed wrote:

With the news of Porsche shuttering its e-bike development arm, does anyone know what that means for Fazua?

Not looking good for Fazua, it's also closing but they claim parts will still be available long term.  TBD on that.   “We must refocus”: Porsche closes Fazua ebike motor brand as the car company's electric bike subsidiary ends | BikeRadar

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Didn’t someone just drop a new fazua bike?

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5/8/2026 6:11pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2026 6:12pm

I had heard thru the grapevine Fazua was going away but just in name. Was going to be rebranded with the Porsche name.  ??? Maybe fake that was fake news! 

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Ob917 wrote:
I had heard thru the grapevine Fazua was going away but just in name. Was going to be rebranded with the Porsche name.  ??? Maybe fake...

I had heard thru the grapevine Fazua was going away but just in name. Was going to be rebranded with the Porsche name.  ??? Maybe fake that was fake news! 

Maybe? Maybe not?

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Is it a feature of German/EU consumer law that FAZUA has to maintain a minimum amount of warranty support, or are they just doing their customers a solid? 

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Is it a feature of German/EU consumer law that FAZUA has to maintain a minimum amount of warranty support, or are they just doing their customers...

Is it a feature of German/EU consumer law that FAZUA has to maintain a minimum amount of warranty support, or are they just doing their customers a solid? 

Bikeradar had reported the following: 

‘a Porsche spokesperson told BikeRadar: “Fazua customers and dealers will continue to have long-term access to spare parts and service. Further information will be announced shortly."’

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I’m trying to find a spare ride 60 motor. Not easy to find 

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Definition of DOA….unfortunately.

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Probably not going to be featured under "Beautiful bicycles" on the Radavist.

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God that new Rocky's motor arrangement looks UGLY AF to me.  Something about it, maybe the big triangular block coupled with the rear triangle, reminds me of commuter ebikes.  I swear it looks bigger than any other motor on the market.  It's a shame because if I cover over that part of the bike with my finger, the rest of the bike looks nice/normal.

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I agree that it's not that great looking... They do however look less odd in person.  The overall design idea does present several advantages however that are notable.  Utilizing a standard crank and spindle is an obvious advantage and the drive unit design lends itself to a high pivot suspension design.  Less hanging down to bash on things, which based off of the damage to the bottom of my bullit cover plate, is a thing.  

I've always both respected Rocky for going down their own path with their own bespoke motor design, and simultaneously thought they were insane for it.  Who knows, maybe it will prove to be a safer play then getting mixed up with competing motor mfg's, agenda and vertical integration plays.  

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Could the Rocky bike just be stuff they already had the ball rolling on before their financial troubles a couple years ago. Now they are in a better money spot but still have a bunch of 2-3 year frames/motor packages they now need to get rid of first before bringing new designs to market, hence the "out of date" package they selling as a new release here? Just thinking about it as a damned if you do and damned if you dont type situation.

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ebruner wrote:
I agree that it's not that great looking... They do however look less odd in person.  The overall design idea does present several advantages however that...

I agree that it's not that great looking... They do however look less odd in person.  The overall design idea does present several advantages however that are notable.  Utilizing a standard crank and spindle is an obvious advantage and the drive unit design lends itself to a high pivot suspension design.  Less hanging down to bash on things, which based off of the damage to the bottom of my bullit cover plate, is a thing.  

I've always both respected Rocky for going down their own path with their own bespoke motor design, and simultaneously thought they were insane for it.  Who knows, maybe it will prove to be a safer play then getting mixed up with competing motor mfg's, agenda and vertical integration plays.  

Having an idler does not a high pivot make

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ebruner wrote:
I agree that it's not that great looking... They do however look less odd in person.  The overall design idea does present several advantages however that...

I agree that it's not that great looking... They do however look less odd in person.  The overall design idea does present several advantages however that are notable.  Utilizing a standard crank and spindle is an obvious advantage and the drive unit design lends itself to a high pivot suspension design.  Less hanging down to bash on things, which based off of the damage to the bottom of my bullit cover plate, is a thing.  

I've always both respected Rocky for going down their own path with their own bespoke motor design, and simultaneously thought they were insane for it.  Who knows, maybe it will prove to be a safer play then getting mixed up with competing motor mfg's, agenda and vertical integration plays.  

The biggest advantage of a turned motor is the low center of gravity and potentially low weight while still having a quickly removable battery. Additionally you can also skip the range extender while keeping the bottle holder and introduce different length batteries in the frame.

With smaller motors like the Avinox this also won't look that ugly or if the frame design is more adapted to it.

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you guys are insane!

I’m loathe to reference Louie CK but he had a great thing about finding out the wi-fi on a plane was shitty: that we’ll be so angry about not having a thing that didn’t even exist last week, while literally flying across the planet at hundreds of miles an hour… 

That big blocky thing is the motor that’ll roast you up to the top so you can do three more laps. It’s incredible! 
 


 

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The SL version with the 75nm/700W motor is a far neater and better integrate dpackage imo. 

 

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