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Mtn-Goat-13 Liked a reply to forum topic E-bikes make you f*tter? Training with an eMTB
8/25/2026 9:33am First of all, this is an exceptional article that is well done, is not even biased towards e-bikes and it puts some facts and data to the comparison between the two I was on team anti-E bike for years thinking how core I was & that E's were for newbs and lazy people. But after a catastrophic knee injury & multiple surgeries, an E was the only thing that kept me moving outdoors in my beautiful mountains (gravel roads) vs sitting on a fan bike in my house... my sense of gratefulness to even be out on simple zero-gnar gravel...
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Between The Tape Liked a reply to forum topic E-bikes make you f*tter? Training with an eMTB
8/25/2026 9:25am " Optimal zone 2 is between 60% and 70%. How much of your ebike time was below 60%? Does your HR not have an upper and lower alarm setting?" The write up states "t he goal was to keep my heart rate below 70% of maximum (Zone 2 training) during climbs", the emphasis here being on below. Admittedly, the use of "training" in parentheses in this sentence is confusing and could have been better. "Could you not have backed off or clicked into an easier gear in the spots where you were well above Zone 2?" On the hard parts...
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TEAMROBOT Liked a reply to forum topic E-bikes make you f*tter? Training with an eMTB
8/25/2026 9:22am Loved this quick clip. The man knows what he's talking about. Obviously, as others have pointed out, there's an ocean of difference between a casual rider who gets on an ebike and unconsciously drops their intensity level to something comfortable vs. a professional athlete who's tearing their heart out in high-intensity training blocks and using an ebike for structured low-intensity recovery rides. But for the professional athlete, I imagine an ebike is a godsend for spicing up the zone 2 training and recovery.
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Between The Tape Liked a forum topic E-bikes make you f*tter? Training with an eMTB
8/25/2026 8:22am The assertion that e-bikes decrease fitness is widespread. On the surface, the reasoning appears sound: riders often feel like they have expended more energy after a normal ride compared to an e-bike ride. Therefore, normal bikes must provide superior fitness benefits, right? Not quite. This surface-level analysis misses several crucial insights about how fitness actually works. Let's start with a simple fact: work done is work done, regardless of the bicycle beneath you. If you maintain the same effort level on an e-bike as you would on a traditional bike, you'll simply travel farther in the same time. In this...
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Johnboy Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/25/2026 7:20am
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nskerb Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/25/2026 7:19am When the stumpy 15 dropped they did a PB podcast and they also basically said “yeah no evo, it has to special/gnarly to get the evo name” That lasted like less than a year, I think their philosophy is pretty money centric lol.
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Dave Waugh Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/24/2026 8:08am Given the talent, the talent in opposition to Hattie, and the hard yards she's done, it's pretty bloody well earned!
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Loche Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/24/2026 8:06am No it's not. It's a regular 4-bar linkage and has one degree of freedom. Nothing needs to flex. Link 1 (Green): Frame with main pivot and rocker pivot (concentric with BB .) Link 2 (Blue): Rocker Link Link 3 (Purple): Pull Link Link 4 (Red): Rear Triangle (And then obviously the other side of the rocker with the shock (orange).) The rear triangle (Link 4) remains of constant length and does not need to flex or require compliance. A flex stay has 3 bars and 3 joints; thus 0 DoF per Gruebler's equation... which is why you need something to...
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Fred_Pop Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/24/2026 7:57am They do. Scott makes terrible bikes. They're a nightmare to work on, fail at multiple points and the finishing touches are utter garbage.
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human powered suicide machine Liked a reply to forum topic World Cup Enduro is Done After 2026
8/20/2026 8:56am This is honestly shocking. WBD is a private, for-profit company. If they decide Enduro isn't profitable enough to broadcast, fine. That's their business. But why does a private broadcaster have a say in whether an entire cycling discipline gets a World Cup? The UCI is a governing body. Its job is to organize, protect and develop cycling for its members, not decide which disciplines survive based on the ROI of a commercial partner. And one of the most important jobs of a governing body is to provide a consistent pathway through the sport. Local racing → regional racing → nationals...
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nskerb Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/20/2026 8:37am
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Ride886 Liked a reply to forum topic World Cup Enduro is Done After 2026
8/20/2026 8:26am As someone who shot a bunch of those Vital slideshows during the peak EWS years, I recall that being the case too. For fans of the enduro format the long form coverage was great and the slideshows told a compelling story, especially over two day races. But for the average viewer or MTB race fan it never really got the same kind traction as DH content, even when the industry marketing and money was moving away from DH in favor of the EWS at that time. For those of us old enough to remember, the early years of EWS felt...
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Bobs_is_better_than_A-line Liked a reply to forum topic World Cup Enduro is Done After 2026
8/19/2026 11:40am This is a sad development. Enduro as a sport changed mountain biking for the better. The fact that we are pedaling durable rigs that are nearly as good as DH bikes is a direct result of the EWS and its effect on mtb culture. It seemed to be an uphill battle in that the bikes stopped selling, both because they got to such a good place and [my lawyers have advised me to redact this reason for the death of the enduro bike as a growth sector]. It is a bummer because I will miss the 20 min recaps of...
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TEAMROBOT Liked a reply to forum topic World Cup Enduro is Done After 2026
8/19/2026 11:38am It's an unbelievably vague press release. My first thought was that they were trying to sugarcoat "We're killing the series forever" in positive-sounding corporate-speak, but on second read it's kind of wishy washy and undefined, like maybe the UCI is exploring ways to offload the series to another organizer or multiple organizers, which is what it was all along until Chris Ball sold it to the UCI. Back in the day, the EWS was mostly a collection of events that were already taking place independent of the UCI, like the SuperEnduro series in Italy or Crankworx Whistler. After rereading it...
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kperras Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/19/2026 10:47am It doesn't matter as much on the way up, but it certainly does on the way down. Heavy bikes are less agile and take more effort to move around. When speeds are below a certain threshold, a heavy bike just won't handle that well. Changing direction on a 50lb bike vs. a 30lb bike is a noticeable difference in effort. When speeds go up, you're generally riding or looking the straighter open lines that don't require as much input.
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cmaac Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/19/2026 10:46am Nice to see Kona putting out some new stuff - but it really does look like they've lost a sense of industrial design and branding. Im sure a lot of these bikes ride well, and are well priced, but they look like they could be chinese factory catalog bikes. I know, thats my opinion man, but I think Kona could really bring on a proper heritage rebrand with that crazy font and find a way to update their bikes design language. Still goes down as the biggest founder / owner short that I can think of, so good for them!
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Karabuka Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/19/2026 10:46am
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matmattmatthew Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/19/2026 10:45am While I’m no 32er apologist. I’m old enough to remember this exact argument when 29ers came out. I was working at a shop in College when 29ers started to hit the market, people would come in and actually get pissed at us for having 29ers on the floor. Anyone remember anti-29er stickers on people’s cars? I can remember a few different stickers, one said “One less 29’er”. I even remember being at a trail head in Pisgah in college, my buddy unloaded his 29er from the back of my truck and a “local” said “those aren’t welcome here”. No one...
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monarchmason Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/19/2026 9:27am
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DontWorryImAPilot Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
8/12/2026 2:39pm As I got a little further into the conversation, the host mentions something about the "new range of bikes" and Peter says something along the lines of "talking specifically about the LT..." That makes it sound like a few bikes rather than a single bike or a pair of bikes. I wouldn't call two bikes a "range" and I wouldn't have used the word "new" for bikes that have been out for a year already (the LTe and MTe), so that feels a little like the host knows more than the guest wants to reveal. Speculation continues. Also an interesting...
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