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4/12/2026 5:52pm
Kusa wrote:
It is me or the glovebox door is positioned a bit out of the frame perhaps creating a bigger opening? Or the down tube is slimmer...

It is me or the glovebox door is positioned a bit out of the frame perhaps creating a bigger opening? Or the down tube is slimmer but there is added room to make the glovebox usable. 


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Looks different for sure

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4/12/2026 6:04pm

There is definitely a new Nomad coming, it's just that the shock review is not correlated.  New Nomad looks good for sure. 

alannz wrote:
Looks like the new Nomad is coming Tuesday!

Looks like the new Nomad is coming Tuesday!

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I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

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4/12/2026 6:42pm

There is definitely a new Nomad coming, it's just that the shock review is not correlated.  New Nomad looks good for sure. 

alannz wrote:
Looks like the new Nomad is coming Tuesday!

Looks like the new Nomad is coming Tuesday!

IMG 5887 0IMG 5888.jpeg?VersionId=HUwnwoEV9Mgp hnLJ9d6K B.Yd
I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not...

I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

At least it's still VPP tm

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4/12/2026 6:48pm
I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not...

I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss a 40 on that hoss and don’t look back. If a frame can take a pro-level rider and a zeb, there’s zero reason it can’t take a dual crown. 

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4/12/2026 7:58pm

From Intend on instagram, is that rear derailleur a proto Reverse componentes bit or something like that? Also sporting the intend dropper. IMG 4045 0IMG 4046 0

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4/12/2026 8:53pm

It's not a derailleur. It's a singlespeed chain tensioner that Reverse has sold (in a few different versions) for at least a few years.

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From Intend on instagram, is that rear derailleur a proto Reverse componentes bit or something like that? Also sporting the intend dropper.

From Intend on instagram, is that rear derailleur a proto Reverse componentes bit or something like that? Also sporting the intend dropper. IMG 4045 0IMG 4046 0

Pump up that SeaSucker!

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4/13/2026 2:07am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2026 4:12am

Commencal teasing a new Clash

Capture d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran 2026-04-13 131151Capture d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran 2026-04-13 110517.png?VersionId=V0DDBg

Source : Commencal 2027 Range / instagram

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4/13/2026 2:30am
I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not...

I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

nskerb wrote:
Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss...

Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss a 40 on that hoss and don’t look back. If a frame can take a pro-level rider and a zeb, there’s zero reason it can’t take a dual crown. 

It's probably less about the extra forces a dual-crown puts on the frame these days, I think you're right about that. The one important issue to keep in mind though is that the stanchions will bump against the head tube junction area, and if the frame is not built to take the resulting direct force in that particular area you could easily cause an issue in a crash.

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4/13/2026 2:42am
I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not...

I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

nskerb wrote:
Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss...

Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss a 40 on that hoss and don’t look back. If a frame can take a pro-level rider and a zeb, there’s zero reason it can’t take a dual crown. 

iceman2058 wrote:
It's probably less about the extra forces a dual-crown puts on the frame these days, I think you're right about that. The one important issue to...

It's probably less about the extra forces a dual-crown puts on the frame these days, I think you're right about that. The one important issue to keep in mind though is that the stanchions will bump against the head tube junction area, and if the frame is not built to take the resulting direct force in that particular area you could easily cause an issue in a crash.

Could be also about the clearance between front wheel and downtube at bottom out with longer travel forks.

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4/13/2026 3:45am
Kusa wrote:
It is me or the glovebox door is positioned a bit out of the frame perhaps creating a bigger opening? Or the down tube is slimmer...

It is me or the glovebox door is positioned a bit out of the frame perhaps creating a bigger opening? Or the down tube is slimmer but there is added room to make the glovebox usable. 


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I really, really hope that's just a weird optical illusion and the glovebox door doesn't actually protrude out of the frame like that...

Anyways, the geometry of the new Nomad is somewhat on the conservative side, as per usual with Santa. Size large has 475mm of reach, 643mm of stack, a 77° STA, a 64° HTA and 443mm chainstays. That's for the "high" setting. Technically, there also is a "low" setting, but in truth it doesn't really do anything (- changes the HTA by 0.3° and changes the leverage curve by the tiniest amount).

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4/13/2026 4:02am
DServy wrote:

Ahh yes, the seal friction of air with the weight of coil. Didn’t cane creek already do this?

ever experienced the seal friction of an intend product? 

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4/13/2026 4:32am
majorjake wrote:
New Saint and XT flats. https://bike.shimano.com/stories/article/thin-for-the-win.html   

Not only they look awful, those pins wouldn’t grip on shoes with glue, I saw them the other day and I would give them a penny

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4/13/2026 5:20am
majorjake wrote:
New Saint and XT flats. https://bike.shimano.com/stories/article/thin-for-the-win.html   
Evil96 wrote:

Not only they look awful, those pins wouldn’t grip on shoes with glue, I saw them the other day and I would give them a penny

They don't look like they've got much bite.
I assume you can BYO pins if you want.

shimano.pins

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4/13/2026 6:07am
loris_74 wrote:
Commencal teasing a new ClashSource : Commencal 2027 Range / instagram

Commencal teasing a new Clash

Capture d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran 2026-04-13 131151Capture d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran 2026-04-13 110517.png?VersionId=V0DDBg

Source : Commencal 2027 Range / instagram

Primoz wrote:

Is it just me or does it look like horst link? 

Definitely a Horst link.

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4/13/2026 6:12am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2026 6:13am

Jeez, didn't see the white one laying on the ground on the top pic. I was only looking at the blurry one.

On that note, does commencal have any single pivot bikes left? 

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4/13/2026 6:54am
I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not...

I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

nskerb wrote:
Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss...

Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss a 40 on that hoss and don’t look back. If a frame can take a pro-level rider and a zeb, there’s zero reason it can’t take a dual crown. 

I totally agree but on the site for the current Nomad Santa Cruz specifically calls out that the carbon at the head tube is not strong enough to take impacts. If it was just legalese why would they go into that detail? I’m still thinking the thick ODI fork bumpers would do a fine job at dissipating the shock from an impact but don’t want to mess with possibility of head tube failure on a park bike of all things.

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4/13/2026 7:01am
Primoz wrote:
Jeez, didn't see the white one laying on the ground on the top pic. I was only looking at the blurry one.On that note, does commencal...

Jeez, didn't see the white one laying on the ground on the top pic. I was only looking at the blurry one.

On that note, does commencal have any single pivot bikes left? 

I believe the furious/frs still is but I’d imagine it’s going Horst too if they changed the clash. Maybe not though?

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4/13/2026 7:09am
I totally agree but on the site for the current Nomad Santa Cruz specifically calls out that the carbon at the head tube is not strong...

I totally agree but on the site for the current Nomad Santa Cruz specifically calls out that the carbon at the head tube is not strong enough to take impacts. If it was just legalese why would they go into that detail? I’m still thinking the thick ODI fork bumpers would do a fine job at dissipating the shock from an impact but don’t want to mess with possibility of head tube failure on a park bike of all things.

You need to design an impact zone for the fork bumpers otherwise, yes, the head tube area can get crushed during crashes. 

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4/13/2026 7:26am
loris_74 wrote:
Commencal teasing a new ClashSource : Commencal 2027 Range / instagram

Commencal teasing a new Clash

Capture d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran 2026-04-13 131151Capture d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran 2026-04-13 110517.png?VersionId=V0DDBg

Source : Commencal 2027 Range / instagram

Primoz wrote:

Is it just me or does it look like horst link? 

Dogboy wrote:

Definitely a Horst link.

I found a better rendering on Commencal website :

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4/13/2026 7:28am
I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not...

I've seen the embargoed launch video at my local shop but it didn't answer my burning question which is if it's dual crown compatible or not. The phrase "single crown, double black" does not have me hopeful, which is a shame because this would automatically have replaced my Patrol as my park bike.

nskerb wrote:
Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss...

Tbh I don’t get what the hang up is regarding dual crown comparability. I think that’s more of legal dept. jargon vs its actual capability. Toss a 40 on that hoss and don’t look back. If a frame can take a pro-level rider and a zeb, there’s zero reason it can’t take a dual crown. 

I totally agree but on the site for the current Nomad Santa Cruz specifically calls out that the carbon at the head tube is not strong...

I totally agree but on the site for the current Nomad Santa Cruz specifically calls out that the carbon at the head tube is not strong enough to take impacts. If it was just legalese why would they go into that detail? I’m still thinking the thick ODI fork bumpers would do a fine job at dissipating the shock from an impact but don’t want to mess with possibility of head tube failure on a park bike of all things.

ODI fork bumpers are harder on frames than OEM bumpers from basically any fork manufacturer.


They put the mounting screw between the fork stanchion and the frame.

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4/13/2026 7:44am
majorjake wrote:
New Saint and XT flats. https://bike.shimano.com/stories/article/thin-for-the-win.html   
Evil96 wrote:

Not only they look awful, those pins wouldn’t grip on shoes with glue, I saw them the other day and I would give them a penny

Not sure about that look simialar to the Specialized boomslang pins. And those things are super grippy

 

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/boomslang-platform-pedals/p/155739?co…

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4/13/2026 8:15am
Kusa wrote:
It is me or the glovebox door is positioned a bit out of the frame perhaps creating a bigger opening? Or the down tube is slimmer...

It is me or the glovebox door is positioned a bit out of the frame perhaps creating a bigger opening? Or the down tube is slimmer but there is added room to make the glovebox usable. 


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FullSend wrote:
I really, really hope that's just a weird optical illusion and the glovebox door doesn't actually protrude out of the frame like that...Anyways, the geometry of...

I really, really hope that's just a weird optical illusion and the glovebox door doesn't actually protrude out of the frame like that...

Anyways, the geometry of the new Nomad is somewhat on the conservative side, as per usual with Santa. Size large has 475mm of reach, 643mm of stack, a 77° STA, a 64° HTA and 443mm chainstays. That's for the "high" setting. Technically, there also is a "low" setting, but in truth it doesn't really do anything (- changes the HTA by 0.3° and changes the leverage curve by the tiniest amount).

Thats smaller than the outgoing Nomad lmao


So basically its just a long travel Bronson. 

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4/13/2026 8:19am
loris_74 wrote:
I found a better rendering on Commencal website :

I found a better rendering on Commencal website :

image 669

That's one ugly rocker link

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4/13/2026 8:23am
Primoz wrote:
Jeez, didn't see the white one laying on the ground on the top pic. I was only looking at the blurry one.On that note, does commencal...

Jeez, didn't see the white one laying on the ground on the top pic. I was only looking at the blurry one.

On that note, does commencal have any single pivot bikes left? 

Crabs... Crabs everywhere

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