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I knew there was an actual test for it, but couldn't remember the reference. Thanks.
Hey all, I can finally take off my very sneaky blue tape camouflage to reveal that yes, I’m reviewing the new Nomad.
Because I’ve spent so many years on the old Megatower, I’m framing this as a Megatower vs. Nomad comparison. Especially interesting for me because of the rumors that the Megatower is going away and the new Nomad does not take 29” rear wheels. I only have a couple rides in on the new bike, but so far the geometry feels really good and the bike feels solid and stout. Weirdly I haven’t been able to figure out the new Zeb yet (it feels like it's not linear enough for me right now), but I’m gonna talk to SRAM/Rockshox at Sea Otter and try some other things.
Here are my quick first impressions, in no particular order:
Let me know if you have any questions about the new bike in the meantime!
I agree that the Zeb/Super Deluxe pairing is kind of weird. But I run a Lyrik/Vivid on my trail bike, so what do I know 🤷♂️
Unfortunately, a 140 mm head tube makes running a dual crown difficult.
Oh wait…
Agreed that's an odd choice to do the built in chain guide. My personal preference is to use a bash guard only, but one that mounts to all 3 tabs for extra strength. I haven't had a dropped chain from the chainring in like 5+ years, so for me they are more trouble than they are worth.
Dunno if you have ridden the new bronson, but that's a comparison i'm most interested in.
Great to hear!
I have a couple of burning questions:
I‘d love to know if it fits bigger than older Santa Cruz models, because of the taller stack? The Nomad and Megatower run a bit small, compared to other size large bikes. The Bullit and Vala (and Hightower 4 maybe) are a tad bigger however. Reach numbers aren‘t longer on paper, but because of the taller stack, they actually are at the same bar height, in relation to the axle.
Is the same true for the new Nomad?
I‘d also would love to know, if it is noticeably less harsh than the Megatower 2 (which some reviews state). Or more comfortable, in other words.
I am not far from buying either a new Nomad frame or a Megatower 2 frame (at a discount, but with an older X2, which won‘t last). I prefer dual 29, but I am not heavy and prefer flexier frames. Long legs, Mullet is meh, in my experience. Spent some time on a Vala. Liked it in general, but did not enjoy ebiking/a motor and felt the smaller rear wheel gave more drawbacks than advantages at my height/inseam. (6ft and 36.6inch inseam), size large frame.
Either would replace my seven seasons old Madonna V2 frame, which I‘d love to ride still. But I fear it will fail at some point at the welds because it has seen so much use. And I‘d rather not crash or end a bike trip abruptly.
So - your Megatower Nomad comparison will be a perfect read for me! Looking forward to it!
Would not recommend Santa regarding your comment to prefer flexier frames. Am currently on a Bronson V5 and it is the stiffest frame I have ever owned.
Wait, that’s not a Bronson?!
Can you reference the specific ASTM standard covering category based testing?
The new Nomad's downtube is skinny compared to the Bronson, and SC says the Nomad is more flexy than their previous frames for better riding comfort.
Is the zeb really "zero stiction" like RS says it is? And what was the break in process like?
Zerode teases a new bike on their Facebook page.
ASTM F2711 came up when I ran an inquiry, different than the ISO 4210. Category designations are separate standard F2043 from what I understand. When I spoke the Trek PM a while back, he said the Slash meets the CAT 5 testing except for the dual crown requirements, which why it was only rated at CAT 4. Please correct anything you find wrong.
I haven’t heard of anybody with a production Sidekick having issues. I know there is always the proto excuse, but journalist do get products way earlier. I have one of the early batch ones, no issues so far.
Heard the new speci launching this week is all about “control at speed.” Not sure what that means, heard it’s a race bike though
One of the reviews that came out yesterday (I can't remember which) talked to the product manager and asked about the Vivid and his answer was basically they wanted to differentiate the lower spec builds from the higher spec builds which have a coil and the Vivid would blur those lines too much.
Curious what fork you’re comparing to the new Zeb? I believe a primary driver for the new Zeb is more linear as many were unable to use full travel at longer travel on prior generation. Personally I feel I can get full travel on my Zeb charger 3.1 at 180 mm with half a token without it being overly progressive but that is on a full fat eeb. In fact I’m not sold on the whole ‘more linear’ for that reason. May just end up having to use a token or max the ABO
This is cool detail and makes my interaction with Specialized last year even more aggravating.
The Status frame is only advertised as ASTM Cat 4 (i.e., no dual crown), yet they sell a complete version of the bike with a dual crown while advertising its ability to jump and ‘Freeride’.
I called them on multiple occasions to try and figure out where the discrepancy came from (maybe they tested it to Cat 5 or internal testing to verify the dual crown but didn’t want to advertise it?) and nobody could give me even a semblance of a true answer. One person tried to tell me it was because some versions of the frame only had 140mm of travel which precluded them from more rigorous testing.
Side note, at least at one point, Kona Honzo ESDs were Cat 5, so anyone’s dream of a dual crown hardtail are still possible with some creativity.
Sounds like a Demo launch.
My thought was if they are launching a 29 inch XC right now in the midst of this flurry of 32 inch releases maybe they want to try to sell their smaller wheel size as being about control? Similar to how 27.5 bills itself as the more playful wheel size…
Edit: nvm, just heard it’s an eeb. Maybe it’s the eDemo? Kenevo? New demo platform with a motor? God that would be sick…
New Epic is my guess
But 27.5 is more playful.
And isn't spec going with 'super' for their e-bike stuff (e.g. super natural)? So that's probably not an eeb.
Specialized dropping these rigs this spring:
Levo EVO (did this already get dropped, or still embargoed? )
Epic 9
DH bike (word is, only S-Works Gucci)
As has been said previously, the Epic 9 might be getting pushed out the door early for the 32" race to come for MY27.
There was a media day in santa cruz like this week with a pro rider(s) and they were testing on xc grounds. A friend supposedly also saw said pro rider on a new bike yesterday but cannot officially confirm
This matches what I’ve heard. Question is what’s the order?!?
There so many different tests, who knows which one is the reason for Cat 4 rating. It could be unrelated the head-tube side loading test.
Except there is no "flurry of 32 inch releases" and there wont be for some time (, if ever).
I predict that a lot of the big-brand 32" bikes will never really be released to market and instead take the form of small batch, not publically available racing-team special editions - like the upcoming Trek XC bike.
Brembo has officially arrived in mountain biking: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/brembo-now-makes-brakes-mountain-biking-introducing-gr-pro.
I can confirm this to some degree.
The upcoming e-bike from Specialized is the long-travel Levo EVO - 180mm front, 170mm rear, more rowdy intentions than the regular Levo.
Launch of the Demo 11 is also imminent. I've got nothing new to tell about that one, we've all seen it in action at this point.
Any infos on getting aftermarket linkages? Would love to try that on my levo if there is the possibility.
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