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eh guess they gave it the "now with moar flo" treatment. 🤑
Here you go, the new Reya is officially official now: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/forbidden-launches-reya.
Honestly, the Reya is the first XC bike that I really, really want to try as a 6'3" individual. I feel like that jack nichelson nodding meme as I work my way down the geo chart on the XL.
Edit: Can we also agree that peak bike industrial design is a straight top tube that aligns directly with the seat tube... connecting the top of the head tube to the rear axle with an un-interrupted straight line?
Yes. This pic was leaked pages back and clearly that bike doesn’t have a splatter paint job plus a larger 29 front wheel. I’m also seeing a straight head tube not tapered like on the bottle rocket. Plus the marketing team would flip out as cash- eee-ma isn’t freeride core lol. Here’s the tr-11 as seen here
when i first clicked the link, it was definitely this version:
new one must not have been live yet at the time in my region, possibly due to time zones / embargos. the update is what's shown now.
They look the same.
I can undersand that but it’s a tr-11
I wonder if glidecore in a 40 is of any improvement to the old tech
I mean, it makes sense to use the same tech across the product line, and it will probably not going to make things worse, but arent the main issue glidecore aims to solve is kinda non-existant on DC forks?
I meant the tr-11 and bottle rocket look the same. I am pretty sure they share frame parts.
Nope, stanchions still flex a helluvalot under impacts. Dig into the old G Out galleries Vital used to put out regularly and you can see a number of examples of most every RSU fork flexing, visually coming out of plane with the headtube.
There are some important updates to the Grip X2 damper - you can learn more here: https://youtu.be/ZrFBbpLDbM0?si=OW5ZyDq5O22VObBf
https://racing.trekbikes.com/stories/tfr-cross-country/why-trek-unbroke…
Change the name (X3?) so people know it's different??
What's also funny is it's just as much of an outlier in Size S (my size) at 420cs. Which is crazy short. I'll be looking elsewhere for a 435ish cs on my next 120 bike. Nevertheless, it's super cool to see the proportional model scale well to the L and XL sizes in the short travel cat. I have plenty of great choices elsewhere.
It is beyond stupid that SC doesn't do mullet for the V10 in an XL. On what are already small bikes to begin with, compared to some of the other DH sleds out there, not having MX on a XL is crazy. I really wanted to build up a V10 but at my height (6'2") there is no way I am shoehorning myself into 474mm reach large...
v10 has flippy headset cups, 483 in long/high mode which should be plenty for your height on a DH bike.
Not at all, especially with a 637mm stack. I already run 35mm rise bars on a 660 stack bike to get the bars to a point when I’m not in a stupid low squat when. My S5 stumpy has 495mm reach with 63.5ha and a taller stack.
1300mm wheelbase, that’s shorter than my stumpy and that’s not even an enduro bike…
X2 is a naming convention that related to 2x the adjustability which applies to Grip X2 as well as our Float X2/DHX2 shocks - two compression adjustments (HSC/LSC) and two rebound adjustments (HSR/LSR)!
Thanks..Question, My all gold 40..Is that a 24 or 25? Can I trow in the glidecore airshaft and/Or the new dampner?damper??
I would think its just a case of moving the BB forward relative to the pivot points, similar to what the did on the V1 dread? That way the stays and rocker can all be the same across all models. Also means the (actual) lever arm from the axle to the shock is the same across all models, meaning FEA may not be need to be re done on the rear end for each front triangle size. Just my semi-educated guess.
I honestly appreciate the fact that we are working our way away from model year names, or re-branding of products for slight updates and tweaks. Those that want to latest and greatest or want to validate what off the shelf product they are buying can work with their IBD to validate the serial numbers or they can do that themselves.
Disclaimer, I know just enough about suspension design to be dangerous...
While we're on the subject, The updates to the grip x2 damper are interesting. From looking at the cut away's and press release info, it seems mostly focused on reducing the impact of the "mid valve" or said another way, oil pathways in the main piston that contribute to the compression damping that occurs before the base valve is engaged. This is a bit interesting to me as it seems directly focused to the real (or perceived) square edge, low frequency/high impact type of event that feels like a stinger in the handlebars.
This is one of those things in certain dampers, that really creates a crosstalk effect of the rebound adjuster on the compression feeling. Said in laymen's terms... this combats the feeling you get where slowing the rebound down, adds low speed compression damping that you can't seem to fully address through the compression adjuster.
This is something that's very difficult to deal with on mtb's and in my opinion, one of the things that the extra weight of emtb's sorta solves, that makes mediocre suspension products feel so good on an emtb. We are so space constrained and have so much less vehicle mass then other wheeled/suspended vehicles that we are an entirely different animal. Feels like fox is really diving into the pressure balancing effort that they mentioned in the release materials for the grip x2.
A lot of people use these kinds of bikes for XC races. Some races like XCOs probably no one carries anything. Other races like Moab Rocks probably most people are carrying something on at least one of the days because the risk of a flat tire is so high racing mostly blind with XC tires in Moab. Other races like BCBR require you to carry certain things (but they don’t enforce it).
The big advantage of the on bike storage vs just having everything in your jersey pocket/camelbak is it helps keep you cooler, which keeps your performance up. Like yeah you can wear a camelback type thing, but a lot of people I think feel that it’s slower just cause of the heat thing alone. Like guys race at 50deg in skin suits and still sweat like crazy.
Additionally, for the people I know anyway, who do these kinds of races a lot, ride a lot, train a lot. 30+ miles with 5k feet is like a normal thing. Having the two bottles plus storage so that you’re good to go and don’t have to walk out like 10+ miles is… let’s just say a lot of people refuse to buy XC bikes that don’t carry two bottles and stuff.
So yeah, there’s a reason the Epic is so popular, and that design which fits two bottles plus storage is common. However that said I think it’s smart for forbidden to go after slightly different niche.
Yeah I spoke too soon. I'm really excited for the change. Thanks for the update.
Not really a rumor just a email tease, but what doesn’t Wolftooth have in house right now?
Stem?
Quick add to their catalog could be a stem.
Go away unless you're leaking your own new things. This is a marketing nonsense free zone.
Also, are you ret-conning your own lore? I'm 99% sure X2 referred to your twin tube shocks.
With all due respect Crinkle.. IT IS Awesome Fox now has a presence on this hardcore site. They still have not answered my question on here..Or the Suspension thread. But the ahowing up at the table is a cool start.
This whole bike industry implosion might help companies get a grip(lol) and actually try harder.
The new air shaft and dampers are backwards compatible for 40 - a new air spring/damper will take some different setup guidance than on the new fork due to air volume changes with the new chassis so "suggested settings" may not apply.
If you are ever confused by what Model Year your product is you can look it up the serial number on tech.ridefox.com. Your gold fork would be considered Model Year 25 (Calendar Year 2024).
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