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jonkranked
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10/8/2025 12:58pm

The blinking silhouette looks like a clipless pedal. 

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Nobble wrote:
Agreed.If it is, I hope it’s something interesting and new. I’m tired of “here’s our new SPD pedal, it’s special because we anodized in in your...

Agreed.


If it is, I hope it’s something interesting and new. I’m tired of “here’s our new SPD pedal, it’s special because we anodized in in your favorite color”

i feel like you cheated.

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10/8/2025 1:01pm

i will say the adjustable q-factor is a really interesting feature. 

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jonkranked wrote:
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Nobble wrote:
Agreed.If it is, I hope it’s something interesting and new. I’m tired of “here’s our new SPD pedal, it’s special because we anodized in in your...

Agreed.


If it is, I hope it’s something interesting and new. I’m tired of “here’s our new SPD pedal, it’s special because we anodized in in your favorite color”

jonkranked wrote:

i feel like you cheated.

Devastating! 

Any Wolf Teeth reading this: you have people that love you. Turn to them. 

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10/8/2025 2:14pm

Are SPD's the new stem?

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10/8/2025 2:42pm Edited Date/Time 10/8/2025 2:43pm

You guys are crazy. That doesn't look anything like a clipless pedal. It's obviously a T-rex blowing a horn. 

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10/8/2025 2:51pm
Jotegr wrote:

You guys are crazy. That doesn't look anything like a clipless pedal. It's obviously a T-rex blowing a horn. 

T-Rex Blowing a Horn is a new headset color available starting next week.

It matches the gross gold stantion of the all-gold Fox 40 perfectly. It's also the color of the typical 6th grade rental Trumpet.

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10/8/2025 3:33pm
I took a deeper look at the press photos from the new electric Reign, and it looks like Giant have completely changed their lower linkage/front triangle...

I took a deeper look at the press photos from the new electric Reign, and it looks like Giant have completely changed their lower linkage/front triangle interface. The lower link is now one solid piece that sits between the front and rear triangles, and the seat tube is split, down by the BB. This should create a less flexxy lower link/rear end, right?1000001237 0.jpg?VersionId=LaLY 5Cr

That's correct. A wider frame in that area provides much more stiffness. Riding this bike feels like it’s not even an e-bike. Most e-bikes feel a bit flexy there when cornering or pushing hard, which is normal since there’s a big opening with 4 or 6 bolts holding the motor instead of a regular bottom bracket. This bike is very impressive in terms of stiffness and weight balance when jumping, doing manuals, and overall maneuverability and agility.

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jonkranked wrote:

i will say the adjustable q-factor is a really interesting feature. 

Pretty cool feature for dorks like me who like to pedal.

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10/8/2025 5:22pm
jonkranked wrote:

i will say the adjustable q-factor is a really interesting feature. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

Pretty cool feature for dorks like me who like to pedal.

Fucking excited about that, honestly. I really feel the q factor on my big stupid Moonlander.

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10/8/2025 6:19pm

Adjustable Q is really interesting — the marketing copy makes it sound like they really put thought into the shoe-pedal interface. I’m definitely curious to try these.

That said, I wonder if, even with the extra shoe-pedal contact, I’d still clip out accidentally when cornering hard and rotating my hips — which is exactly why I switched from SPDs to HTs in the first place.

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bigbrett wrote:
Adjustable Q is really interesting — the marketing copy makes it sound like they really put thought into the shoe-pedal interface. I’m definitely curious to try...

Adjustable Q is really interesting — the marketing copy makes it sound like they really put thought into the shoe-pedal interface. I’m definitely curious to try these.

That said, I wonder if, even with the extra shoe-pedal contact, I’d still clip out accidentally when cornering hard and rotating my hips — which is exactly why I switched from SPDs to HTs in the first place.

I think that's gonna be a big yes. Still definitely unclipping in those scenarios.

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10/9/2025 6:17am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2025 6:26am

$360 CAD for the new Wolftooth pedals per their website. $360 for SPDs!

I almost spit out my coffee. That's TIME Speciale 10/12 levels of ridiculousness, back when they first came out. Arguably more crazy since there's no special sauce or differentiation going on with the very mature SPD interface.

The interesting one is the DEL - going for max weight reduction with the single mechanism.

They're aiming for the luxury side of the barbell with this release.

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$360 CAD for the new Wolftooth pedals per their website. $360 for SPDs!I almost spit out my coffee. That's TIME Speciale 10/12 levels of ridiculousness, back...

$360 CAD for the new Wolftooth pedals per their website. $360 for SPDs!

I almost spit out my coffee. That's TIME Speciale 10/12 levels of ridiculousness, back when they first came out. Arguably more crazy since there's no special sauce or differentiation going on with the very mature SPD interface.

The interesting one is the DEL - going for max weight reduction with the single mechanism.

They're aiming for the luxury side of the barbell with this release.

The prices here in US are right in line with M9120 XTR, so at the high end but not ridiculously so. Are there counter-tariffs on Canadian imports of mUSA articles?

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10/9/2025 8:30am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2025 8:31am
jonkranked wrote:

i will say the adjustable q-factor is a really interesting feature. 

Being 100% pedantic - it's pedal stance width, not q-factor

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10/9/2025 8:37am

Transition Bottlerocket has officially launched - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/transition-releases-2026-bottlerocket-dedicated-freeride-bike 

- 180mm or 200mm of rear wheel travel // 180-200mm fork
- 27.5-inch wheels
 - Aluminum frame
- Three chainstay length options: 436mm, 441mm, 446mm
- 64° or 63.6° head tube angle
- 4-position shock mount: high/low // linear/progressive
- Internal cable routing & option for right or left rear brake
- Bolt on downtube and shuttle guards
- UDH equipped
- Sizes: S-XL
- Single crown build: $4,699 USD
- Dual crown build: $5,199 USD 
- Frame + shock: $2,499 USD

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jonkranked
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10/9/2025 9:57am
jonkranked wrote:

i will say the adjustable q-factor is a really interesting feature. 

Being 100% pedantic - it's pedal stance width, not q-factor

sethimus is that you? 

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10/9/2025 10:21am

Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a frame compared to a fixed lower mount or a flip-chip system, or whether it provides some advantage on the manufacturing end.

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sethimus
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sethimus is that you? 

he's not wrong

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10/9/2025 10:34am
Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a...

Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a frame compared to a fixed lower mount or a flip-chip system, or whether it provides some advantage on the manufacturing end.

Yeah there is claim it reduces manufacturing complexity.

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jonkranked
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jonkranked wrote:

sethimus is that you? 

sethimus wrote:

he's not wrong

technically correct is the best kind of correct

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10/9/2025 4:13pm
Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a...

Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a frame compared to a fixed lower mount or a flip-chip system, or whether it provides some advantage on the manufacturing end.

I would guess this allows for even more sloppy frame tolerances. I know with the aluminum bikes they had a problem that the piece where the lower shocked amount is was not straight, causing all sorts  of fit issues.  I actually had to warrantee my frame because I’m such poor issues. I couldn’t physically get a new shot in once the old one was removed.  I bet this allows the frame to be a little bit less straight as it’s bolting instead of welding this piece on

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10/9/2025 4:50pm
Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a...

Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a frame compared to a fixed lower mount or a flip-chip system, or whether it provides some advantage on the manufacturing end.

I would guess this allows for even more sloppy frame tolerances. I know with the aluminum bikes they had a problem that the piece where the...

I would guess this allows for even more sloppy frame tolerances. I know with the aluminum bikes they had a problem that the piece where the lower shocked amount is was not straight, causing all sorts  of fit issues.  I actually had to warrantee my frame because I’m such poor issues. I couldn’t physically get a new shot in once the old one was removed.  I bet this allows the frame to be a little bit less straight as it’s bolting instead of welding this piece on

I could see a few benefits - 

#1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a number of brands where the frame mount is too stiff so they get chronic bushing wear/looseness problems. Making a thinner welded part could be difficult, especially maintaining alignment so these bolted parts are probably more forgiving.

#2 eliminates the "bathtub" under the shock that collects water and mud. 

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10/9/2025 6:18pm
I could see a few benefits - #1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a...

I could see a few benefits - 

#1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a number of brands where the frame mount is too stiff so they get chronic bushing wear/looseness problems. Making a thinner welded part could be difficult, especially maintaining alignment so these bolted parts are probably more forgiving.

#2 eliminates the "bathtub" under the shock that collects water and mud. 

Coming soon.. Aftermarket lower shock mounts for even more or less progression than stock..

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10/9/2025 6:24pm
Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a...

Interesting to see Trek and Transition adopt such similar solutions to adjustability (the swappable lower shock mounts). I wonder how much weight that adds to a frame compared to a fixed lower mount or a flip-chip system, or whether it provides some advantage on the manufacturing end.

I would guess this allows for even more sloppy frame tolerances. I know with the aluminum bikes they had a problem that the piece where the...

I would guess this allows for even more sloppy frame tolerances. I know with the aluminum bikes they had a problem that the piece where the lower shocked amount is was not straight, causing all sorts  of fit issues.  I actually had to warrantee my frame because I’m such poor issues. I couldn’t physically get a new shot in once the old one was removed.  I bet this allows the frame to be a little bit less straight as it’s bolting instead of welding this piece on

I could see a few benefits - #1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a...

I could see a few benefits - 

#1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a number of brands where the frame mount is too stiff so they get chronic bushing wear/looseness problems. Making a thinner welded part could be difficult, especially maintaining alignment so these bolted parts are probably more forgiving.

#2 eliminates the "bathtub" under the shock that collects water and mud. 

There’s no bath tub on the alloy frames they make only carbon. I think this is a better solution but I’d love to see it in some carbon frames 

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sweaman22
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10/9/2025 6:25pm

The bathtub on my patrol is its most annoying feature.

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10/9/2025 8:16pm

well...... that could be cool of what's to comeScreenshot 2025-10-09 at 8.15.41%E2%80%AFPM

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