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Yeah its the same but not the same. Really only minor aesthetic differences and Reverse branding. Assume identical functionality. Still made by SB One hence the “colab” in the product name. Looks sick in silver though but I already have G3C 😁
Ran into Troydon last month, they are switching to DJI only.
https://eu.boxcomponents.com/de/products/box-two-prime-9-gen-2-groupset?variant=49466731036885
I have been waiting for this groupset to arrive. An end is in sight. Love the idea. Hopefully its damn awesome
any word if their mtb stealth hubs will ever see the light of day? I just looked and it appears they have been delisted from the website.
No, just the bmx race ones
those have been available for a while. vital was provided a set of the mtb hubs back in 2020, but as far as I could ever tell they were never officially released for public sale. they had been listed on the website, but were always sold out.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/SILENT-INSTANT-New-BOX-Stealth-Hubs,2…
My guess is that Box ran into issues with durability and cost/tolerances then decided it wasn’t worthwhile.
I don’t think sprag/roller clutch type hubs are ever really going to be mainstream for MTB applications. Big cassettes and 29” wheels can put a ton of torque on a drive system.
Sprag/roller clutch type hubs are really intolerant of bad tolerances and contamination. They also generate some pretty extreme internal forces (who remembers Vesper freehub bodies?)
Some of the issues can be solved by adding cost/weight, but the vast majority of people don’t want to pay more for extra unsprung mass. Looking at the current offerings, a Classic Onyx hub is over 100g heavier than a Hope Pro 5 and nearly double the price.
Maybe not the most interesting news but - For you who run the AXS Transmission groupset from SRAM
Apparently there is a new update coming any day now that is supposed to speed up shifting, similar to XPLR speeds.
Not sure how it will work, since afaik its designed to shift only at the ramp in the casette to shift smoothly even under full power. Dont know how increased speed will affect that.
Do any of you nerds have a theory on what happened with Loic’s fork on his world champs race run? He said he had a mechanical and lost all support from the front. In the video just before his crash, he bottoms it out a few times almost like he lost the spring or damper. But then looked fine after. Did those fancy electronics malfunction?
The "only shifts at the ramps" thing is a myth that SRAM isn't going out of their way to correct. There is no sensing of position, torque, or anything else going on -- so it's simply not a real thing. It was just rate limited to make sure us hoons didn't blow up chains too quickly. The existence of Transmission mechanical groupsets is evidence enought that you can bang shifts as fast as you want and things are hunky dorry.
Thanks! I just looked and the update was available in the app. Shifts fast as hell now!
I was also wondering what it could have been. If you watch his fork when he hops into the steep left-hander that he crashed on, the fork fully bottoms out and looks like the normal support he expected disappeared. Then his upper body collapsed forward and he ended up crashing - I think it's pretty obvious something malfunctioned. My first thought went to something going awry with the clickers that I know nothing about.
Yeah I noticed that too. He's known for having really active suspension, but at that spot it looks like the fork completely bottoms out unexpectedly, like the damping went totally wide open or he lost a ton of pressure.
What's the number of the latest version? 2.37.0
It looks like he lost compression damping. Even riding at my non-racer level, I've blown a compression circuit and it behaved just like that.
While watching the race I noticed somehting was off with his fork right before he crashed. He was suuuuper deep in travel for a couple seconds before he crashed.
2.53.1
For the derailleur and controllers...
https://axs.sram.com/releasenotes/129
https://axs.sram.com/releasenotes/114
Oh, right. I gotta connect to each component to update individually. I was referencing the iphone app software version. Thanks
I think it beeped when it should have booped.
Someone on PB said it could be a ruse and that a "mechanical" was the reason for his mistake, rather than letting JG know he crumbled. Who knows.
That fork did look kind of funny, but Loic has always ran his fork very open from my calibrated eyeballs.
He runs his suspension French style. I helped my enduro racer friend set up his bike like that and he's set a bunch of KoMs.
I could buy the logic that Loic has some delicate or fiddly prototype technology in those forks that probably just gave out during the run.
The podcast selector on his handlebar could have malfunctioned
Got no figures to back this up but purely from my memory, Bruni has crashed while being:
a) last to drop
and
b) ahead on split time
more than any other racer in history.
Thats more of a compliment of how often he actually gets himself into that situation (and that he is so close to the edge of whats possible), rather than a critisism.
I don't think he's ever blamed the team, the bike, the components, the mechanic or anyone but himself.
What does French style refer to...?
I talked to a SRAM PM about that. T-Type knows how many shift ramps there are per a gear, so it changes shift timing delay based on gear.
In a nutshell: a suspension setup with a soft, but progressive spring setup with firm compression damping and fast rebound.
A bit different than the historic, stereotypical elite racer setup – extra firm everything.
Interesting, but it doesn't know your cadence, so this is an approximation at best. I'm sure most riders are operating in a predictable cadence range, so it's likely better than nothing. Nevertheless, the root of this discussion is the news that they removed/increased said shift speed limitation.
And here I thought it meant cutting corners
You ever heard of froggy style? It’s kinda like that.
Yeah, just ran the update, it’s noticeably quicker.
With old software, if I was in wrong gear, the slower cadence def reduced shift quality.