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You looking specifically at that pic? If so, that’s not his bike in the pic. He’s just unloading it. In other pics from the same day, he’s on his usual bike. But to confirm- levers are not flat enough, bars are rolled back, no stem spacers for that high stack, old fork, no ochain, diff tire set up. Sorry I rambled. Dif bike haha Now in regard to ochain… I’m definitely curious about that! He was the main guy prototyping higher/different degrees… and now it’s Sram. So it’ll be interesting to see how that’ll play out

New Supernaught development - Dred E with a Boxxer, custom link and what looks to be a bb conversion where the motor was?

I'm not sure many of us would buy bikes or bike parts if they were made of aerospace carbon... The price would be quite a bit higher than what we have now. As for removable panels, cool idea, but it adds weight and I don't think it would fly for most (pedal) bike riders at the end of the day.

Only those plastics rattled so badly that the little fittings fell out and looked horrible. They were not a highlight of the bike in the slightest.

Can we get a separate thread for requesting separate threads so it doesn’t clog up this thread?

Gas Gas had the right idea with the moto-inspired replaceable plastics kits for their ECC ebikes. How many carbon frames become landfill waste from rock strikes or crashes where a sacrificial "fairing" could have taken the blow? If the industry wants to improve durability, this is the right place.

Would love to see this convo moved over to a thread called “thermoplastic debate/discussion” or similar. This is a dead end technology for now but I understand that a lot of you like talking about it.

The vast majority of the advancement of continuous carbon fiber reinforced thermoplastic materials is centered around aerospace. Carbon fiber reinforced bikes (mainly epoxy based) have "veered away" from aero materials - their processes and needs have evolved and are now somewhat different. So, thermoplastic composites (TPC's) have not been as targeted towards bikes. If you look at material test data, there are TPC's with similar or even better performance (strength/stiffness vs weight) than epoxy/CF being used now in bike parts (especially a property called "facture toughness"). But, these highest performing TPC's are higher priced in general, higher processing temp, and...

Yes, somebody will figure it out. The MTB business is notoriously tough. B/c thermoplastic CF can be done with robotics it’s one of the few technologies that can work in developed countries with high labor costs. The recyclability is huge bonus, they are the best tire levers I have ever used. Benefits in vibration damping and impact resistance.

I just need 13 more people! Please help me out!

Who's going to run Frog Wake brakes on their Guard Dog 2? C'mon, you know you want to! https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/shanghai-bike-show-2026.

*tinfoil hat on* Big MTB paid an outrageous sum to Neko to show off 32” since they know everyone loves what he’s doing and simply can’t hate on him.

I love that it's Neko Mulally doing this. Nobody else would get out alive.

I'd be extremely disappointed in the bike industry if they didn't take this opportunity to also introduce a new hub standard. That would be VERY uncharacteristic of them.

I only ride metal bikes...

GG had a terrible implementation of cable guides, the frame was too heavy for the short travel stuff, and a lot of us just wanted a metal bike from them. When value added brands try to go bougie upscale it often ends in tears.

"To what extent to you agree with the following statements? thermoplastic carbon mountain bikes fit well with the way i go out and come home in my daily life"

32" is a standard size that has existed for decades

Speaking of pinkbike, it's been down all morning ON THE SAME morning as the Department of War starts releasing classified docs on aliens?? Coincidence??