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It would be real cool if it came stock on some builds, but knowing the bike industry, they would put it on bikes that don't need it just for the hype beasts out there. Integrated Dub cranks would be a plus too.
You can option it on the "new" Tyee
Yes, if it shows any wear you'll get a new one, so it's really not as painful as people think
Maybe I missed it on here: did anyone catch the spec announcement that MY26 Stumpjumpers will now be sold as stumpjumper evos with a 160 mm fork and piggies back genie shock?
If nothing else it seems like an interesting branding move so close to the release of the 15
...but will they have cable ports for us poor people / those of us that prefer mechanical?
Why? It's a $14,000 Yeti e-bike, if $220 for bearings is an issue then its not the bike for you to begin with. There's also bikes out there with half as many bearings that cost even more for a kit because of the stupid sizes they use.
It's crazy how people will complain about those kinds of costs but will happily destroy the XX1 groupset in 500k because they cheaped out on chain lube.....
What do you expect us to do? Lube our $100 chain like some sort of poor person?
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?
Pros:
-possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate inner and outer links)
-no need for a narrow-wide chainring, all teeth can be same for full retention (triangular shape instead of rectangular)
-odd number of teeth
-'narrow-wide' retention performance even on the cassette, thus:
-shifting possible with full retention tooth shape (on the cassette)
-more uniform support on shifting ramps (every pin/roller part of the cahin can be used for shifting vs. outer links only of current situation)
-even finer length adjustment
Cons:
-no more quick-link?
Anything else? More wear was mentioned but I don't see how wear should be substantially different to more widespread, inner-outer link chains. Wear locations are the same.
Regarding wear, for some reason when using half link chains on my bmx bikes, it always seems like you end pulling your wheel further back fairly quickly...
As the bent side plates slightly straighten out, presumably?
If so, it also could cause excessive wear or binding of the rollers?
That was my guess...
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the chains as part of manufacturing process could. Still wouldn't put one on my bike though.
AFAIK chains don't actually stretch in any meaningful way, the rollers (and maybe the pins) wear allowing the rollers to sit off-center on the pins. The plates stay the same length.
(Or am I missing what you're gettting at?)
that was the joke, all the ways the wear is mitigated would render it non-useable for mtb. maybe not for a gearbox.
that's been my understanding too, is that its the rollers that wear / deform over time.
Perhaps they hope the half-link design can improve strength. The last two chains I’ve broken have been on the inner link.
I have a hunch these breaks are because electric derailleurs push harder than thumbs (I never broke a chain in this way with mechanical shifting). I imagine e-bikes are even more abusive than my puny wattage, e-bikes with electronic shifting might be a destructive combo.
Classic chains don't, half link chains however do and they do so at fairly decent rate if you are putting enough wattage through them. And then they snap. Dreamy.
Except when you compare a worn chain to a new chain length the worn chain is always longer, so there has to be some stretch occurring (in addition to rollers wearing out.)
PIT BITS video Leogang World Cup DH.
Here's how roller wear manifests as elongation. Though it's perhaps inaccurate this elongation is colloquially referred to as 'stretch'.
Shimano XTR M9200 has been leaked on Reddit in all it’s wireless glory. I’m not posting a link as I assume it’s still embargoed but you will want the r/MTB sub.
I stand corrected, thanks @Digit Bikes!
After a 10 YEAR hiatus, Shimano is back in the electronic drivetrain space, this time without wires (thank god!). I've been riding the drivetrain and brakes since the beginning of December, 2024. Here's what I thought of everything -
0:00 - Di2 History
1:44 - Why it take 10 years to make new Di2?
2:48 - Derailleur & Shifter Switch Details
6:10 - New Crank Details
6:52 - New Cassette Details
7:27 - Derailleur Clutch and Design
12:04 - New XTR Brake Details
16:48 - Brake Lever Setup 18:36 - Shifter Switch Setup
22:21 - 150 Mile Test - Initial Impressions
33:39 - Final Thoughts - 6 Month Test
34:30 - XTR Brake Performance
40:20 - Shift Performance
42:46 - Component Wear
46:11 - Is it Loud??
48:08 - Weight and Price Breakdown
48:58 - The Bottom Line on XTR Di2
Xtr bits already released on the other website, have to say they went to town with the pricing 😂 I will keep my 10speed, thanks.
Anyone want to take a shot at explaining the lack of a clutch on the new shimano stuff?
watch the video. it's literally explained in detail.
It's the 5th in Japan embargo lifted today
Not the first comment like yours. Did people expect that top of the line wireless system will be around Sram GX? I don't get it...
@TEAMROBOT's XTR experience
https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/its-about-damn-time-shimano-finally-g…
Where did you see this at? I’ve got one with standard Genie and considering upgrading.