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3/27/2025 9:26am
Kusa wrote:
4 new colors 

4 new colors 

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don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The brown and pink combo unfortunately is the latter in my opinion. 

At least bicyclepubes is probably gonna be happy about the poopcycle. 

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3/27/2025 9:51am
Etney wrote:
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead...

I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead of buying some aftermarket €500-1000 crankset, here you get both a chainring and a crankset with built in bash guards for sub €200 euros. 

Might even be good for people or shops to buy, and just let people run them as test cranks in the shorter lengths. 

https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Eagle-90-Transmission-DUB-Crankset-55-mm-Chain…

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Edit: Forgot to even check, the Eagle 70 crankset is just about €100, available in the same lengths, with a chainring. Seems like actually a VERY good value for money.

 

https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Eagle-70-Transmission-DUB-Crank-55-mm-Chainlin…
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But limited to 55 chainline, right?

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Very funky looking dhx2

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3/27/2025 10:27am
Etney wrote:
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead...

I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead of buying some aftermarket €500-1000 crankset, here you get both a chainring and a crankset with built in bash guards for sub €200 euros. 

Might even be good for people or shops to buy, and just let people run them as test cranks in the shorter lengths. 

https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Eagle-90-Transmission-DUB-Crankset-55-mm-Chain…

71abbf4b354fcfeccb182f0f2c2cbe92.png?VersionId=KYdYgMXrzLO7xeOr

 

Edit: Forgot to even check, the Eagle 70 crankset is just about €100, available in the same lengths, with a chainring. Seems like actually a VERY good value for money.

 

https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Eagle-70-Transmission-DUB-Crank-55-mm-Chainlin…
13c272395b80cb37dbeae499644f2ccc

 

But limited to 55 chainline, right?

Yeah I mean, I guess you could probably play around with the bb spacers or put a 6mm offset chainring to get 52mm chainline if you really want. I believe wolftooth sells a 6mm offset chainring

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3/27/2025 10:41am
dolface wrote:
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...

Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?

My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.

Not sure if the SRAM B2B site was down when you posted, but confirming I can access my order on it just fine right now!

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3/27/2025 10:49am
tarekfahmy wrote:
 Very funky looking dhx2
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Very funky looking dhx2

someday new saints

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tarekfahmy wrote:
 Very funky looking dhx2
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Very funky looking dhx2

Are both the rebound knobs on the bottom? Yeah no way I could get to that on my firebird. 

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3/27/2025 11:51am
tarekfahmy wrote:
 Very funky looking dhx2
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Very funky looking dhx2

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Are both the rebound knobs on the bottom? Yeah no way I could get to that on my firebird. 

I do have the EXT Storia V3 on my firebird and I need to remove the lower shock bolt to turn the rebound knob 

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3/27/2025 11:51am
Kusa wrote:
4 new colors 

4 new colors 

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don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The...
IMG 5016.jpeg?VersionId=hqQ8q


don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The brown and pink combo unfortunately is the latter in my opinion. 

At least bicyclepubes is probably gonna be happy about the poopcycle. 

Beauty is in the (pink) eye of the beholder.

I for one think it's sweet to have brands going their own way. There is enough teal colored bikes out there.

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3/27/2025 11:58am
dolface wrote:
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...

Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?

My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.

alannz wrote:

Not sure if the SRAM B2B site was down when you posted, but confirming I can access my order on it just fine right now!

I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized the serial number for my shock (which it also didn't do a few days ago nor last week).

So, it looks like things are somewhat back to regular working order.

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3/27/2025 12:04pm
dolface wrote:
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...

Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?

My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.

alannz wrote:

Not sure if the SRAM B2B site was down when you posted, but confirming I can access my order on it just fine right now!

I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized...

I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized the serial number for my shock (which it also didn't do a few days ago nor last week).

So, it looks like things are somewhat back to regular working order.

Thanks everybody! LBS just let me know they were able to get in to the system and my warranty is in-progress.

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bigbrett wrote:
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate...

Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate limiting the shifts, vs the actual cassette design (Ofc if the system prevents you from dumping gears in a bad place or otherwise shifting like an idiot then the shifting will appear to be better…).

Also more curiosity than ever to try and run the direct mount derailleur with a shimano hyperglide chain and cassette….probably need to swap the jockey wheels but otherwise it should work?

SRAM says:

The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.

And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.

 

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3/27/2025 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 12:36pm
bigbrett wrote:
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate...

Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate limiting the shifts, vs the actual cassette design (Ofc if the system prevents you from dumping gears in a bad place or otherwise shifting like an idiot then the shifting will appear to be better…).

Also more curiosity than ever to try and run the direct mount derailleur with a shimano hyperglide chain and cassette….probably need to swap the jockey wheels but otherwise it should work?

thresh wrote:
SRAM says:The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.And apparently on battery powered you...

SRAM says:

The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.

And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.

 

Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and my only option was to replace the plate with the derailleur for $125 for the GX.  That was the cheapest option.  This would mean I could buy a whole mech derailleur for the same price to salvage for parts?

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bigbrett wrote:
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate...

Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate limiting the shifts, vs the actual cassette design (Ofc if the system prevents you from dumping gears in a bad place or otherwise shifting like an idiot then the shifting will appear to be better…).

Also more curiosity than ever to try and run the direct mount derailleur with a shimano hyperglide chain and cassette….probably need to swap the jockey wheels but otherwise it should work?

thresh wrote:
SRAM says:The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.And apparently on battery powered you...

SRAM says:

The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.

And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.

 

Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and...

Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and my only option was to replace the plate with the derailleur for $125 for the GX.  That was the cheapest option.  This would mean I could buy a whole mech derailleur for the same price to salvage for parts?

A year ago that was the case, but now they also sell just the cage assembly minus the clutch for like $30, including jockey wheels.  It's actually cheaper than just a set of jockey wheels.

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3/27/2025 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 12:59pm
thresh wrote:
SRAM says:The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.And apparently on battery powered you...

SRAM says:

The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.

And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.

 

Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and...

Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and my only option was to replace the plate with the derailleur for $125 for the GX.  That was the cheapest option.  This would mean I could buy a whole mech derailleur for the same price to salvage for parts?

AndehM wrote:
A year ago that was the case, but now they also sell just the cage assembly minus the clutch for like $30, including jockey wheels.  It's...

A year ago that was the case, but now they also sell just the cage assembly minus the clutch for like $30, including jockey wheels.  It's actually cheaper than just a set of jockey wheels.

Good to know as this was last year!  But that's charging $95 more just to include the clutch?  The same clutch that comes with the Eagle 70 derailleur for the same price?  I'm mostly calling bullshit on SRAM's spare part pricing for the electronic Transmission stuff. 

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Is it single gear pull only or can you pull multiple gears? As for contact point adjustment, Level brakes never had it. Not sure where Motive slots...

Is it single gear pull only or can you pull multiple gears? 

As for contact point adjustment, Level brakes never had it. Not sure where Motive slots in, but it seemed G2 brakes were dying a slow death anyway and were being replaced by Level. 

@Etney not much difference to Eagle GX, NX and SX cranks offer, length and price wise. And construction wise. 

Etney wrote:
Downshifting is apparently two gears per sweep, not sure about upshifting. Most likely one per sweep/click because of how transmission works. According to srams website, GX and...

Downshifting is apparently two gears per sweep, not sure about upshifting. Most likely one per sweep/click because of how transmission works.

 

According to srams website, GX and NX are available only in 165mm minimum. I can only find "previous gen" Eagle X1 with shorter cranks than that, and then you'll have to get a different chainring since its not transmission compatible afaik. And SX is not available for consumers afaik.

Sorry, missed the 155 mm and 160 mm options... 

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3/27/2025 1:08pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 1:11pm
Good to know as this was last year!  But that's charging $95 more just to include the clutch?  The same clutch that comes with the Eagle...

Good to know as this was last year!  But that's charging $95 more just to include the clutch?  The same clutch that comes with the Eagle 70 derailleur for the same price?  I'm mostly calling bullshit on SRAM's spare part pricing for the electronic Transmission stuff. 

Eagle 70 has a different (drag spring) clutch compared to 90 (and the rest of a pack), which is I assume is something like type2 design - sram claims it’s still stronger than a shitty type 3 found in 12 speed regular eagle (non ttype)

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I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're the new base version of the Mavens.

This new version has a DirectLink lever instead of the SwingLink we all love, does anyone know if the lever feel was updated or if that mushy Code R feeling is back ?

The new Motives are also DirectLink only which is surprising.

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3/27/2025 2:43pm
jonkranked wrote:

$600 for all that is a screaming deal. 

I had to buy a set and I don't even need them. I'm a sucker for limited edition. 

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3/27/2025 3:45pm
Rick26 wrote:
I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're...

I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're the new base version of the Mavens.

This new version has a DirectLink lever instead of the SwingLink we all love, does anyone know if the lever feel was updated or if that mushy Code R feeling is back ?

The new Motives are also DirectLink only which is surprising.

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Man, Santa Cruz has the nicest paint in the business, but chooses the ugliest damn colors on everything. 

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3/27/2025 4:10pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 4:12pm
Rick26 wrote:
I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're...

I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're the new base version of the Mavens.

This new version has a DirectLink lever instead of the SwingLink we all love, does anyone know if the lever feel was updated or if that mushy Code R feeling is back ?

The new Motives are also DirectLink only which is surprising.

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Man, Santa Cruz has the nicest paint in the business, but chooses the ugliest damn colors on everything. 

Someone at SC is stuck in the 1980s

And a comment on the entry Maven's "Directlink" lever.  Presumably less snappy and possibly closer to the feel of SRAM's existing DOT brakes?

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Can’t link the picture but new top cap on the boxxer on the trek? From pit bits. Like mrp noken 

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3/27/2025 7:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 8:38pm
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Would be surprised if it is just volume expansion.  Appears to be on one of the Commencals as well.  My guess would be external tunability of some kind (of something). There are a few ways you could conceivably adjust the volume without depressurizing the chamber, but not without altering the vol/pressure ratio.  Integration of flight attendant would track, but unless it's a coin cell the lack of batteries suggests otherwise.  RS hasn't put a coil spring in a fork for about 15 years, but who knows, what's old is new sometimes.

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3/27/2025 9:11pm

Spotted these on a bike in the KS booth at the Taipei Show. Anyone recognize them?


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Spotted these on a bike in the KS booth at the Taipei Show. Anyone recognize them?

Spotted these on a bike in the KS booth at the Taipei Show. Anyone recognize them?


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IIIPRO/Onirii aka Temu/AliExpress special. Looks like they were inspired by Code Ultimates for this iteration.

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Just to spin back to the 32" conversation... Does that make the 34sl and 36sl make more sense? Even if I hate that it might? 

I couldn't even stand over a 32" tire so I don't see myself being able to ride one. I'd look like a 10 year old on an XS 29 in frame. 

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3/27/2025 9:50pm
Rick26 wrote:
I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're...

I was looking at the new 2026 Santa Cruz Eagle 70 & 90 builds released today and saw these black Mavens on the spec list, they're the new base version of the Mavens.

This new version has a DirectLink lever instead of the SwingLink we all love, does anyone know if the lever feel was updated or if that mushy Code R feeling is back ?

The new Motives are also DirectLink only which is surprising.

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Other thing noteworthy is that both 5010 and Tallboy didn't get new colors or even new build kits listed for the Sram 70 & 90 transmission groupset. So most likely launch of new version later in spring.

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New Reverb in offiicial SRAM materials. Can't be far away now.

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3/28/2025 12:54am
chriskief wrote:
Both air cans are referred to as EVOL LV in the specs.Example specs from an X2 and Genie…2026, FLOAT X2, F-S, K, Parallel Rzy, No Lever,...

Both air cans are referred to as EVOL LV in the specs.

Example specs from an X2 and Genie…

2026, FLOAT X2, F-S, K, Parallel Rzy, No Lever, Evol LV, 250, 75, CS70, RL60, Rezi B80, No Decal

2025_24, FLOAT GENIE, F-S, K, 2-Pos Adj, EVOL LV, Specialized, SJ Pro/SW (S2-S6), 210, 55, SSC003, SSR01, CML, 0.7 E, 0.2 S, 1x 0.4 X

Please be the same! Specialized have something really interesting going on with the Genie and it's a shame they're only offered in 210x55 with no piggyback...

Please be the same! Specialized have something really interesting going on with the Genie and it's a shame they're only offered in 210x55 with no piggyback, I want one for my bike that currently has an x2 that sounds like it's filled with mac n cheese.

The Float X Genie already exists (seems to come on some of the eebs)Even if you couldn't get hold of one, by the looks of the...

The Float X Genie already exists (seems to come on some of the eebs)

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Even if you couldn't get hold of one, by the looks of the teardown, I don't think there's a reason all of the genie-ish parts couldn't be transferred to a regular Float X in either 210 or 185T shocks.

What a copy they have made of the Manitou Mara Pro.

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