Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
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Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB...
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it a different tire today? I would imagine both construction and compound have been updated. Whereas I believe the saint derailleur is literally the same one from 9 years ago.
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerdAnd yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light...
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerd
And yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light was 2010 and CX-Ray was 1997 for Sapim.
honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website
honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and...
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and...
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the...
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerdAnd yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light...
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerd
And yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light was 2010 and CX-Ray was 1997 for Sapim.
honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website
Some compo from the full ine-up (BB's, Chainrings) have been discontinued but I can confirm the cranks and hubs are still actively being produced in Japan.
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB...
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it a different tire today? I would imagine both construction and compound have been updated. Whereas I believe the...
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it a different tire today? I would imagine both construction and compound have been updated. Whereas I believe the saint derailleur is literally the same one from 9 years ago.
Not too different.
3c has been introduced about 10ish years ago, but before that there were Super Tacky and even Slow Reezay tires that used same durometer rubbers you'll find on the MaxxGrip. I don't know if there was a significant change in the compound, but you could buy a full 40a tire while now you just get 40a on side knobs and 42a on main tread.
I don't think it's fair to compare Saint to a rim or a spoke. Of all the parts that stood the test of time mentioned here, it's by far the most complex. I do still run my 2013 set of brakes and they're absolutely my favourites, yet while I got 5 seasons out of my first RD-M820, I've been getting less than a season out of the last few. So I gave up on DH derailleurs.
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and...
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the...
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!
thanks for the insight, learn something every day (or try to).
interesting! they not only moved to gearbox/beltdrive but also to an hp/idler design.
still a dw6 apparently, which jives with the rumors. I'd assume the idler was a necessity due to suspension layout and the nature of a belt driven gearbox.
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:
Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet
Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst
Interesting shock mounting position.
I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with many fast riders putting it on the limit..
Interesting shock mounting position.I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with...
Interesting shock mounting position.
I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with many fast riders putting it on the limit..
Certain hubs, spokes, EX471's are 9 years old this year. There's a bit when you look around
I wonder where the price difference for the aluminium cranks between US and EU is coming from, tariffs? Pretty much the same for carbon.
Era Crankset MSRP: $499 USD / $649 CAD / 489 EURO
Turbine Crankset MSRP: $180 USD / $220 CAD / 230 EURO
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerd
And yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light was 2010 and CX-Ray was 1997 for Sapim.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it a different tire today? I would imagine both construction and compound have been updated. Whereas I believe the saint derailleur is literally the same one from 9 years ago.
My jerseys are all (both?) from like 15 years ago
honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!
The voice I read this in
Some compo from the full ine-up (BB's, Chainrings) have been discontinued but I can confirm the cranks and hubs are still actively being produced in Japan.
Not too different.
3c has been introduced about 10ish years ago, but before that there were Super Tacky and even Slow Reezay tires that used same durometer rubbers you'll find on the MaxxGrip. I don't know if there was a significant change in the compound, but you could buy a full 40a tire while now you just get 40a on side knobs and 42a on main tread.
I don't think it's fair to compare Saint to a rim or a spoke. Of all the parts that stood the test of time mentioned here, it's by far the most complex. I do still run my 2013 set of brakes and they're absolutely my favourites, yet while I got 5 seasons out of my first RD-M820, I've been getting less than a season out of the last few. So I gave up on DH derailleurs.
4 world cup teams confirmed on gates belt-driven bikes - Aon, Atherton, MS Racing and Intense
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/2025-team-rumors?page=83#comment-56…
thanks for the insight, learn something every day (or try to).
Chris Canfield starting to roll out new frames to customers
from the other site.... what appears to be the atherton 200g
Can someone make an optional high pivot bike with a straight seat tube? These seem to have worse insertion than even the new spicy.
interesting! they not only moved to gearbox/beltdrive but also to an hp/idler design.
It's a similar layout to the Pivot overall.
still a dw6 apparently, which jives with the rumors. I'd assume the idler was a necessity due to suspension layout and the nature of a belt driven gearbox.
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:
Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet
Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst
Interesting shock mounting position.
I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with many fast riders putting it on the limit..
BRB buying Pinion stock 🤣
IIRC the Pivot DH bike uses the flex of the stays to eliminate the pivot at the dropout. There is only a few degrees of movement there.
that would be bombardier
What are the cranks? 🧐
https://northshorebillet.com/products/talon-crankset
I like how the idler is tucked up nicely on the Atherton bike.
Where's the alternator on that Atherton?
If no one said it so far, in Germany they call them “click”pedals…
Same in Norway
Those are our Pinion specific Talon cranks: https://northshorebillet.com/products/talon-crankset-pinion-gearbox