all he said was the bike was disappointing for anything other than... in his words "flying to south africa with Sam Reynolds and doing big F%$k...
all he said was the bike was disappointing for anything other than... in his words "flying to south africa with Sam Reynolds and doing big F%$k off jumps" - He was on a Spire with 190mm fork. I didnt really ride with him like I hoped because he rode off so damn fast I had no chance haha
As someone who is a huge fan of the current Float X, I don't know how you can release a 200mm DH bike with a float...
As someone who is a huge fan of the current Float X, I don't know how you can release a 200mm DH bike with a float x as the only shock option and claim it's a serious race contender with a straight face.
While I agree it seems undergunned, the fastest woman I know runs the stock shock on her TR11 and says it’s fine. She is pretty light...
While I agree it seems undergunned, the fastest woman I know runs the stock shock on her TR11 and says it’s fine. She is pretty light though.
They also chose it when the Float X2s were still exploding. My guess is they wanted to spec it with an air shock and they didn’t want to choose one that would die first ride. The Float X also helps them keep the cost down a bit.
It didn’t fit because they couldn’t get it to. Also that bike has a 40% progression rate. It’s a joke of a dh bike that people sac ride because of the bro culture.
Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons...
Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site.
I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons on them before the bearings are shot.
Making me feel easy on stuff. I've somehow got a pair of Crank Bros mallet E's from 2016 that have seen 6 bikes and 8 seasons of riding without ever even been taken apart or any service of any kind, I'm too scared to now to touch them now, it'll ruin them 😅. I feel like I'd be handing Shimano's down to my great grand kids.
I'll be interested as to how well the new One Up's hold up. I find their flats to be hit or miss and the service window is way to short for the average user. The 99% have no idea pedals need to be serviced over a 10 years, let alone 50h.I had a pair in my hands today and they looked solid, but hopefully they are a bit more robust than some of their alloy flats.
What's wrong with their aluminium flats? They've been solid for me since they dropped the three small outboard bearings...
I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I had one unscrew itself from the crank. Couldn’t even remove the axle anymore in some cases. Those might have been the old versions though.
Customer service has been great, they got me fresh pedals every time, but after getting almost stuck in some remote valley I switched to Nukeproof SH enduros and eventually back to Shimano SPDs. On the hope clip pedals right now and they’re great as well.
The upside for shimano pedals imo is that you can get spares in every bike shop. Don’t know if the oneups can get on that level.
I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I...
I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I had one unscrew itself from the crank. Couldn’t even remove the axle anymore in some cases. Those might have been the old versions though.
Customer service has been great, they got me fresh pedals every time, but after getting almost stuck in some remote valley I switched to Nukeproof SH enduros and eventually back to Shimano SPDs. On the hope clip pedals right now and they’re great as well.
The upside for shimano pedals imo is that you can get spares in every bike shop. Don’t know if the oneups can get on that level.
I've even seen brand new ones be so stiff that you actually notice a difference in resistance when pedaling. A friend bought a brand new set of alu flats, and its like the bearings are shot right out of the box. Feels like the bearing or axle is stuck.
Regardless - I took a shot in the dark now and ordered a set of these clip pedals. I like everything else I've tried from Oneup, and I have been looking to try something else than the saints I currently run. Love the SPD part of the saints, dont like how like 10% of the actual platform contacts my shoe. The oneup seems a lot better there. Only question is longevity, but I guess we'll see
Those oneup pedals are the SPD answer to CB, no rubbish 'play/icy/metal on metal feeling' anymoresolid pedal to shoe contact. Might finally make me switch to SPD...
Those oneup pedals are the SPD answer to CB, no rubbish 'play/icy/metal on metal feeling' anymore solid pedal to shoe contact.
Might finally make me switch to SPD - got my preorder in already!
Seems like no matter the platform under it, SPDs have always had this awful feel compared to Mallets for enduro and gravity riding. I am holding out because I have been burned before trying systems other than CrankBros.
It would be amazing to see some reviews (or Vital forum members) to verify this other than the fancy new OneUp advertisement saying it's the best new thing ever of the same old thing you've always used.
Give me Shimano durability with CrankBros feel. I was hoping SRAM would attempt this after they bought TIME, but they seem distracted with many other things.
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race face going short on crank length
160MM CRANKS. Get shorty.
Have you ever wondered if you’d benefit from shorter cranks? Along with reducing the chance...
race face going short on crank length
160MM CRANKS. Get shorty.
Have you ever wondered if you’d benefit from shorter cranks? Along with reducing the chance of a pedal strike, shorter cranks can improve bike fit and alleviate knee pain, all while improving descending performance. You can now get the new 160mm length in our
flagship Era carbon and Turbine alloy cranks. All cranks are covered by our
Lifetime Warranty, crashes included.
DEFY CARBON CONVENTION
Let your cranks do the talking.
Era is the strongest, stiffest and most durable carbon crank ever created by Race Face. One of the lightest in its class with boots to match your chosen colour, Era will outlast your bike while staying scuff-free and looking great. Get them now in 160mm.
THE ALLOY ANSWER
Praise the workhorse.
The most trustworthy alloy crank on the trails, thirty years running. Turbine delivers an incredibly stiff and responsive
ride with uncompromised durability. Go ahead and get rowdy. Turbine has your back. Now in 160mm.
Wish they'd do the AeffectR in the 160s too. I've had the 165s on the pedal bike for several years now and they are the best price per weight per tough cranks I've owned.
race face going short on crank length
160MM CRANKS. Get shorty.
Have you ever wondered if you’d benefit from shorter cranks? Along with reducing the chance...
race face going short on crank length
160MM CRANKS. Get shorty.
Have you ever wondered if you’d benefit from shorter cranks? Along with reducing the chance of a pedal strike, shorter cranks can improve bike fit and alleviate knee pain, all while improving descending performance. You can now get the new 160mm length in our
flagship Era carbon and Turbine alloy cranks. All cranks are covered by our
Lifetime Warranty, crashes included.
DEFY CARBON CONVENTION
Let your cranks do the talking.
Era is the strongest, stiffest and most durable carbon crank ever created by Race Face. One of the lightest in its class with boots to match your chosen colour, Era will outlast your bike while staying scuff-free and looking great. Get them now in 160mm.
THE ALLOY ANSWER
Praise the workhorse.
The most trustworthy alloy crank on the trails, thirty years running. Turbine delivers an incredibly stiff and responsive
ride with uncompromised durability. Go ahead and get rowdy. Turbine has your back. Now in 160mm.
The move to 160mm is irrelevant if, like the 165mm Turbine, they are eternally and perpetually out of stock in the spindle size needed at any given moment.
I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I...
I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I had one unscrew itself from the crank. Couldn’t even remove the axle anymore in some cases. Those might have been the old versions though.
Customer service has been great, they got me fresh pedals every time, but after getting almost stuck in some remote valley I switched to Nukeproof SH enduros and eventually back to Shimano SPDs. On the hope clip pedals right now and they’re great as well.
The upside for shimano pedals imo is that you can get spares in every bike shop. Don’t know if the oneups can get on that level.
I bought the first set in 2019 and grenaded the small bearing to the point one of them fell apart and the outer ring remained in the pedal bore. Got sent a new set but then managed to get the outer ring out of the original one and rebuilt it with the bushing rebuild kit. I even have some needle roller bearings at home, but never had correct spacers made to make it work.
I bought a new set for the new bike in 2023, so I have a total of three sets, but the pain was that I bent the axles on the older two sets where I only have one good axle out of the four. OneUp doesn't have the axle as a spare parts (which seems daft to me), so a replacement set of Ti axles from Switzerland was the saviour (2 sets were still cheaper than 1 new set of pedals). One Ti set is a backup and one is in use on my GFs bike (with the newest pedal bodies while I built a new axle-old body set for myself).
I was simply pointing out its age, and also as a reminder that saint is now shimano's longest running unchanged grouppo.
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB...
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
As a delivery driver, it was a banner day getting to deliver one of them to my frame builder buddy. 😎
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Thomson everything. I think Bruni still runs the seatpost?
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB...
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
I mean the Minion DHF celebrated a 20th anniversary. If that is not longevity in this industry, IDK what is. They have been my favorite tire nearly the entire time I have ridden bikes seriously. I try something new every year or so and end up back on the DHF. Three wheelsizes later and I am still going after DHFs for my preferred tire.
Speaking of wheelsizes, saw a post by DirtySixer showing 32" wheeled bikes 😒
It didn’t fit because they couldn’t get it to. Also that bike has a 40% progression rate. It’s a joke of a dh bike that people sac ride because of the bro culture.
We are now, still, yes.
Those oneup pedals are the SPD answer to CB, no rubbish 'play/icy/metal on metal feeling' anymore
solid pedal to shoe contact.
Might finally make me switch to SPD - got my preorder in already!
Making me feel easy on stuff. I've somehow got a pair of Crank Bros mallet E's from 2016 that have seen 6 bikes and 8 seasons of riding without ever even been taken apart or any service of any kind, I'm too scared to now to touch them now, it'll ruin them 😅. I feel like I'd be handing Shimano's down to my great grand kids.
I'll be interested as to how well the new One Up's hold up. I find their flats to be hit or miss and the service window is way to short for the average user. The 99% have no idea pedals need to be serviced over a 10 years, let alone 50h.I had a pair in my hands today and they looked solid, but hopefully they are a bit more robust than some of their alloy flats.
What's wrong with their aluminium flats? They've been solid for me since they dropped the three small outboard bearings...
I went through three pairs of them, at some point the bearings or axle eats itself and the pedal gets stuck to the point where I had one unscrew itself from the crank. Couldn’t even remove the axle anymore in some cases. Those might have been the old versions though.
Customer service has been great, they got me fresh pedals every time, but after getting almost stuck in some remote valley I switched to Nukeproof SH enduros and eventually back to Shimano SPDs. On the hope clip pedals right now and they’re great as well.
The upside for shimano pedals imo is that you can get spares in every bike shop. Don’t know if the oneups can get on that level.
I've even seen brand new ones be so stiff that you actually notice a difference in resistance when pedaling. A friend bought a brand new set of alu flats, and its like the bearings are shot right out of the box. Feels like the bearing or axle is stuck.
Regardless - I took a shot in the dark now and ordered a set of these clip pedals. I like everything else I've tried from Oneup, and I have been looking to try something else than the saints I currently run. Love the SPD part of the saints, dont like how like 10% of the actual platform contacts my shoe. The oneup seems a lot better there. Only question is longevity, but I guess we'll see
What if we call clipless pedals cleats and flat pedals cleatless? Then we are in the right and the clip vs. clipless nomenclature can also stay as is.
Cleats and flats?
Seems like no matter the platform under it, SPDs have always had this awful feel compared to Mallets for enduro and gravity riding. I am holding out because I have been burned before trying systems other than CrankBros.
It would be amazing to see some reviews (or Vital forum members) to verify this other than the fancy new OneUp advertisement saying it's the best new thing ever of the same old thing you've always used.
Give me Shimano durability with CrankBros feel. I was hoping SRAM would attempt this after they bought TIME, but they seem distracted with many other things.
Wait, have we figured out if we're all going shorter cranks yet before we switch pedals to clip(less)? This is all moving too fast for my feet.
RDR is the same old, are those just XT/XTR calipers with the Saint banjo though? Not Saint calipers but don’t look like the prototypes either
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Electrical tape, the Maxxis tire sharpie of brake calipers
and still the same saint derailleur that launched in 2012....
It straight up works. Why change it?
Man bike riders are a fickle bunch, not happy when a good product doesn't get updated or revised, not happy when a part constantly changes.
race face going short on crank length
The most trustworthy alloy crank on the trails, thirty years running. Turbine delivers an incredibly stiff and responsive ride with uncompromised durability. Go ahead and get rowdy. Turbine has your back. Now in 160mm.
Era Crankset MSRP: $499 USD / $649 CAD / 489 EURO
Turbine Crankset MSRP: $180 USD / $220 CAD / 230 EURO
Wish they'd do the AeffectR in the 160s too. I've had the 165s on the pedal bike for several years now and they are the best price per weight per tough cranks I've owned.
Is AP4 cooking something new or trolling?
It could be just tape to cover the caliper due to mucky conditions. I do that for riding in the snow.
I would assume it could be a new FRS, new Meta power with bosch gen 5, new clash, that kinda thing?
I was simply pointing out its age, and also as a reminder that saint is now shimano's longest running unchanged grouppo.
How progressive of them to offer cranks 5mm shorter...
The move to 160mm is irrelevant if, like the 165mm Turbine, they are eternally and perpetually out of stock in the spindle size needed at any given moment.
I bought the first set in 2019 and grenaded the small bearing to the point one of them fell apart and the outer ring remained in the pedal bore. Got sent a new set but then managed to get the outer ring out of the original one and rebuilt it with the bushing rebuild kit. I even have some needle roller bearings at home, but never had correct spacers made to make it work.
I bought a new set for the new bike in 2023, so I have a total of three sets, but the pain was that I bent the axles on the older two sets where I only have one good axle out of the four. OneUp doesn't have the axle as a spare parts (which seems daft to me), so a replacement set of Ti axles from Switzerland was the saviour (2 sets were still cheaper than 1 new set of pedals). One Ti set is a backup and one is in use on my GFs bike (with the newest pedal bodies while I built a new axle-old body set for myself).
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
As a delivery driver, it was a banner day getting to deliver one of them to my frame builder buddy. 😎
Thomson everything. I think Bruni still runs the seatpost?
I mean the Minion DHF celebrated a 20th anniversary. If that is not longevity in this industry, IDK what is. They have been my favorite tire nearly the entire time I have ridden bikes seriously. I try something new every year or so and end up back on the DHF. Three wheelsizes later and I am still going after DHFs for my preferred tire.
Speaking of wheelsizes, saw a post by DirtySixer showing 32" wheeled bikes 😒