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There's a Maven forum. Petition to rename it "Brake Lever Tech Rumors and Innovation"
I was hoping the Devinci release would be a new Troy but based on their teaser saying "getting more power, getting more trails etc" sounds like another eeb
Sounds like another Ebike with Bosch SX like everyone else
Yeah my bad, I didn't read the fine print that they are "sinter" brand, not sintered.
Thank you. Yeah Id love to buy an all mountain Troy from them that they make in house like the Chainsaw. At the moment in the US Im trying to find an Orange. But man those are hard to come by. (Yeah Im a little weird.)
DM me! I have an Orange Stage 6 that needs a good home.
An update to the Saint brakes have been in the rumor mill for over a decade now.
probaly in aluminium, so not even light. yay
New E-Troy lite already out on Devinci's website, official release at 10 AM EST.
https://www.devinci.com/en/bikes/e-mountain-2024/e-troylite-gx-axs-12s-…
because it normalizes overall brake performance with regards to varying pad compound. its no secret that a good brake system can be hindered by mediocre pads and that you can improve performance of otherwise meh brakes with better pads.
i agree that there is value in testing brakes wholistically as people will buy them (including OEM pads & rotors as you mentioned), or a bike that they are spec'd on. however the kind of bike nerd that's reviewing a table comparing peak brake forces and deceleration times is also the kind that is more likely to not replace their pads with stock ones.
ronan dunne's prototype summum bike check
That would actually be really interesting to test the brakes both ways.. Stock and then with a control pad and rotor set up. Then compare the results.. Especially when you look at some cheaper Shimano brakes.. A pad and rotor swap typically makes a huge difference there.. Some say they are even better than some of the higher end brakes..
another thing I think would be cool to see is pick one caliper, then test as many different pad compounds as are available. would need to be a common brake (probably shimano or sram) that has the most aftermarket / 3rd party pad compounds.
You could use something like a Code brake and then use pads and rotors from aftermarket companies... I think we just gave Vital some content ideas...
I'm most interested in pad life tests.
All the top brakes are fantastic in my eyes, they all behave slightly differently but all provide more than enough power to lock a wheel, anything more than that is unnecessary.
It's about lever feel and heat dissipation for me, lever feel is subjective. But I'd love to see heat dissipation tests.
Some brakes are absolutely cooked after a DH run, and power at the first corner is great, but by the last it's gone.
Try the yt thirstmaster 4000 fidlock bottle
Hmm, pad life test would be interesting. Difficult to correlate directly to real world usage. Maybe one test run runs with a fixed pressure applied to the brake lever with the hub/rotor in a fixture spun at a constant rpm, then measure how long for the pad thickness to reduce by 50%?
Another idea would be to have an "averaged" pressure/time profile created from brake telemetry data (from real world bike park runs), see how many cycles (runs) it would take to reduce the thickness by 50%?
My quick thoughts on two of the brakes tested by Enduro. For context, I am lucky enough to own and ride a fleet of 5 bikes consistently; from DH to XC
Formula Cura 4: been running these since 2019 on my Trail and XC bikes. Getting a good bleed is paramount to good performance. Sintered pads definitely add extra bite, which I prefer. They require a bleed every couple months to avoid a soft lever feel. Lever bushings get sloppy after a few hundred miles and require replacement. Fully rebuildable if you are mechanically inclined (which I am and have done at least twice on mine)
Trickstuff Diretesimas: not the Maximas but mechanically the same. Run them on my Enduro and DH bikes. Amazing, consistent performance with the power+ pads. Very linear lever throw and rarely require a bleed. Lever hardware is like new after nearly a 1000+ miles. My personal favorite.
pretty sure there must be a thread regarding brakes… back to rumors please!
Magura MT8 brakes on sale for a while in German webshops. Maybe a new version comes?
(No major change to MT8 brakes since late 2014/early 2015 except for the flat mount caliper, which was introduced a few years later.)
let's hope they update the whole thing, calipers are perfect, cnc or alloy masters, rebuild kits and resolve that poor spring technology on the lever blades is what they need to focus
To talk brakes: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/nerding-out-brakes-shall-we-not-ano… enough said here
New session in the works. Screen grabs from team video.
Looks like some kind of stiffness around seat tube/BB area. Maybe frame enclosure around shock for lateral stiffness? Chainstay, seatstay look the same.
Calling it now, its going to be an Intense clone (mid high pivot, faux-6 bar suspension) except for the ABP instead of a true Horst link.
I'd say that's a very good guess.
I feel like most of these bikes are similar to the sender, no?
Wasn't it you who coined the sex bar naming? Sorry I forgot who it was...
BRAKES
Doesn't... look like a session?!?!
Some brands really do the frame wrapping thing better than others.
sick pirellis