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2manybikes
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4/11/2024 12:06pm Edited Date/Time 4/11/2024 12:45pm
2manybikes wrote:
From 'another' site. Max's Cannondale Dave has a revised looking Bomber DJ .... new air cap and Damper adjuster. Very different decals and Gloss CSU and...

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From 'another' site. Max's Cannondale Dave has a revised looking Bomber DJ .... new air cap and Damper adjuster. Very different decals and Gloss CSU and Lowers. Current bomber DJ's are on a mega sale .... Makes me think Marzocchi is getting more hand-me-down tech from Fox, since it's seems like Fox is refreshing their damper/(forks?) range ....

Maybe Marzocchi will be getting a refresh across the board around the same time and maybe the Marzocchi Super Z (38mm) will be released at the same time. 

Speaking of the new Super Z ....

Is that really the weight!?? (Starting weight of 2180grams apparently) .... if so that would be awesome to have something that looks so sick, also not be as flippen heavy as the ZEB or Fox38 .... 

*EDIT. Other site info from "The Lost Co" comment: lighter+different spring plus the obvious GripX make it lighter by 200g compared to a fox38 .... makes a nice option.

Lower weight means better maneuverability (during air time especially) btw ....

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4/11/2024 1:15pm Edited Date/Time 4/11/2024 1:16pm

Raaw sent out an email that said the new jibb is coming on the 11th. 

This could be awesome, I wonder if it’ll have the adjustability of their other bikes, and I wonder if the rear travel will change? 140 rear...

This could be awesome, I wonder if it’ll have the adjustability of their other bikes, and I wonder if the rear travel will change? 140 rear travel although a small change would make it an even more capable all rounder.

Onawalk wrote:
you believe 5mm of real travel increase would make a difference? 5mm like less than 1/8" Theres no way youre feeling 5mm of rear travel difference...

you believe 5mm of real travel increase would make a difference?

5mm

like less than 1/8"

Theres no way youre feeling 5mm of rear travel difference, give yer head a shake

Well… it Looks like Raww need to shake their darn head!

All jokes aside, the bike looks great. 

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4/11/2024 1:33pm
So Fox indeed produced a onsie for dh. I thought this was still forbidden by the rules, maybe something will change. MX and DH are now...

So Fox indeed produced a onsie for dh. I thought this was still forbidden by the rules, maybe something will change. MX and DH are now at such a level of athleticism that it is not a surprise to see this kind of sport gear.  https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5oI803JqEW/?igsh=MXB0dWlhZ2xvcTBwdw==

seems to be the case.  shorts are allowed but require knee and shin gaurds.  interesting that jerseys must be tight fitting or tucked in. 

 

§ 3 Clothing and protective accessories

4.3.011 Jersey The jersey shall be a long-sleeved shirt whose sleeves extend down to the rider's wrists. Jerseys used in downhill events should be of a type specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Jerseys designed for road cycling, skinsuits, or one-piece suits comprising the jersey and the pants/shorts are not permitted for use in downhill events. The jersey must be either close fitting around the waist or must be tucked into the pants before the start to not cause interference.

 

Pants Long pants or short pants combined with suitable knee and shin protection are authorised. Such long or short pants should be of a type that is specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Long pants of the type described above must be of one-piece construction and made of tear-resistant material. They should cover the entire length of both legs until just above the shoe or ankle. Short pants of the type described above must be of one-piece construction and made of tear-resistant material. They should be worn together with suitable leg protection, that covers the entire knee and the entire shin until just above the ankle. (text modified on 1.01.23).

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4/11/2024 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/11/2024 2:20pm
So Fox indeed produced a onsie for dh. I thought this was still forbidden by the rules, maybe something will change. MX and DH are now...

So Fox indeed produced a onsie for dh. I thought this was still forbidden by the rules, maybe something will change. MX and DH are now at such a level of athleticism that it is not a surprise to see this kind of sport gear.  https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5oI803JqEW/?igsh=MXB0dWlhZ2xvcTBwdw==

jonkranked wrote:
seems to be the case.  shorts are allowed but require knee and shin gaurds.  interesting that jerseys must be tight fitting or tucked in.    §...

seems to be the case.  shorts are allowed but require knee and shin gaurds.  interesting that jerseys must be tight fitting or tucked in. 

 

§ 3 Clothing and protective accessories

4.3.011 Jersey The jersey shall be a long-sleeved shirt whose sleeves extend down to the rider's wrists. Jerseys used in downhill events should be of a type specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Jerseys designed for road cycling, skinsuits, or one-piece suits comprising the jersey and the pants/shorts are not permitted for use in downhill events. The jersey must be either close fitting around the waist or must be tucked into the pants before the start to not cause interference.

 

Pants Long pants or short pants combined with suitable knee and shin protection are authorised. Such long or short pants should be of a type that is specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Long pants of the type described above must be of one-piece construction and made of tear-resistant material. They should cover the entire length of both legs until just above the shoe or ankle. Short pants of the type described above must be of one-piece construction and made of tear-resistant material. They should be worn together with suitable leg protection, that covers the entire knee and the entire shin until just above the ankle. (text modified on 1.01.23).

I see the pants rule was modified at the start of last year. I wonder how it was worded when Johannes Von Klebelsberg (AKA The Denim Destroyer) was racing?

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4/11/2024 2:30pm
So Fox indeed produced a onsie for dh. I thought this was still forbidden by the rules, maybe something will change. MX and DH are now...

So Fox indeed produced a onsie for dh. I thought this was still forbidden by the rules, maybe something will change. MX and DH are now at such a level of athleticism that it is not a surprise to see this kind of sport gear.  https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5oI803JqEW/?igsh=MXB0dWlhZ2xvcTBwdw==

jonkranked wrote:
seems to be the case.  shorts are allowed but require knee and shin gaurds.  interesting that jerseys must be tight fitting or tucked in.    §...

seems to be the case.  shorts are allowed but require knee and shin gaurds.  interesting that jerseys must be tight fitting or tucked in. 

 

§ 3 Clothing and protective accessories

4.3.011 Jersey The jersey shall be a long-sleeved shirt whose sleeves extend down to the rider's wrists. Jerseys used in downhill events should be of a type specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Jerseys designed for road cycling, skinsuits, or one-piece suits comprising the jersey and the pants/shorts are not permitted for use in downhill events. The jersey must be either close fitting around the waist or must be tucked into the pants before the start to not cause interference.

 

Pants Long pants or short pants combined with suitable knee and shin protection are authorised. Such long or short pants should be of a type that is specifically designed and sold for use in BMX Racing or Mountain Bike downhill events. Long pants of the type described above must be of one-piece construction and made of tear-resistant material. They should cover the entire length of both legs until just above the shoe or ankle. Short pants of the type described above must be of one-piece construction and made of tear-resistant material. They should be worn together with suitable leg protection, that covers the entire knee and the entire shin until just above the ankle. (text modified on 1.01.23).

They could have just left out the part about the tight fit as Dudes like Bruni, Iles, Goldstone and Greenland basically have the aerodynamics of a roadie

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4/11/2024 2:42pm
They could have just left out the part about the tight fit as Dudes like Bruni, Iles, Goldstone and Greenland basically have the aerodynamics of a...

They could have just left out the part about the tight fit as Dudes like Bruni, Iles, Goldstone and Greenland basically have the aerodynamics of a roadie

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4/11/2024 2:51pm
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“Tacky” isn’t just for dirt anymore. The gold on gold is objectively bad. That the dampers fit existing forks is great—an admittedly low bar but that’s...

“Tacky” isn’t just for dirt anymore. The gold on gold is objectively bad. That the dampers fit existing forks is great—an admittedly low bar but that’s what mtb manufacturers have done to us. I’ll put one in a fork and pretend I can tell what’s going on for sure. But if it were only offered in the gold/gold, I’d be rattle canning that thing immediately. No more needs to be said. 

I am honestly surprised the dampers fit existing forks. That has not been the way with fox as of late.    i have a Raaw Madonna...

I am honestly surprised the dampers fit existing forks. That has not been the way with fox as of late. 
 

i have a Raaw Madonna frame on its way to me currently and needed a fork for it. I knew fox and RS both have new dampers on the way and I actually went ZEB for this exact reason. Assuming i wouldn’t be able to swap a new damper in the 38, and would be able to on the zeb. Oh well. We’ll see how the new RS damper is soon enough. 

Huh ? 

Fox forks are actually pretty exemplary as far as backwards compatibility of dampers go.  I have a what is now a 3 generations old RC2 damper in a '23 36 chassis for example.  

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4/11/2024 7:29pm
bermed wrote:

Maxxis DHR 2.5 tire options are on their website, if you use the drop down menu. They say sold out for now though.

 

https://shop.maxxis.com/collections/mountain/products/minion-dhr-ii?_gl…

I'm not seeing it under the drop down menu, just the usual sizes. I respect wanting it so badly you hallucinated it though, I'm not there yet but I'm close

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4/11/2024 8:31pm
bermed wrote:

Maxxis DHR 2.5 tire options are on their website, if you use the drop down menu. They say sold out for now though.

 

https://shop.maxxis.com/collections/mountain/products/minion-dhr-ii?_gl…

I'm not seeing it under the drop down menu, just the usual sizes. I respect wanting it so badly you hallucinated it though, I'm not there...

I'm not seeing it under the drop down menu, just the usual sizes. I respect wanting it so badly you hallucinated it though, I'm not there yet but I'm close

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4/11/2024 8:34pm

That's all the part numbers and options…

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4/11/2024 8:57pm Edited Date/Time 4/11/2024 8:59pm

That's odd, I only see the 27.5x2.5 before clicking the box. When the drop down opens though, no listing. I'm on mobile using Chrome.

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4/11/2024 9:57pm

Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike

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4/11/2024 10:51pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike

Michelin DH34 Bike Park as works, but they're not the best made tyre, and wire bead. Cheap though. 

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4/11/2024 11:14pm
mitch160 wrote:
Not sure that this has been posted yet but first time ive seen a vivid with a flight attendant piggyback 

Not sure that this has been posted yet but first time ive seen a vivid with a flight attendant piggyback 

Last Weekend a friend send me a picture of a sram employee with a nukeproof giga and Vivid and ZEB flight attendend. He was riding in a Bikepark in Germany. So it is not really a secret. And could be released soon

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4/12/2024 3:25am

that Magic Mary/Shorty looking proto maxxis will be named Highroller 3, that's all i know, coming soon

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4/12/2024 3:47am

That's a Super Deluxe... 

No DHR 2 in 2.50 width in the list for me. 

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4/12/2024 5:20am
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike

Michelin DH34 Bike Park as works, but they're not the best made tyre, and wire bead. Cheap though. 

Terrible tires. EXO weight sidewalls and wire bead = squirmy POS that hurts to install. 

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4/12/2024 5:36am Edited Date/Time 4/12/2024 5:40am
Primoz wrote:

That's a Super Deluxe... 

No DHR 2 in 2.50 width in the list for me. 

try scrolling up in the drop down… at first i couldn‘t find it either.

edit: ok funny, can‘t see it on PC with chrome but works on iphone with safari.

 

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4/12/2024 6:23am
FaahkEet wrote:
That's odd, I only see the 27.5x2.5 before clicking the box. When the drop down opens though, no listing. I'm on mobile using Chrome.

That's odd, I only see the 27.5x2.5 before clicking the box. When the drop down opens though, no listing. I'm on mobile using Chrome.

https://shop.maxxis.com/collections/mountain/products/minion-dhr-ii

All values from the page source code...

20X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE |  | Black | TB00327500
20X2.30 | 60TPI | WIRE |  | Black | TB00327400
24X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB00143500
24X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE |  | Black | TB00153300
26X2.30 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3C/TR/DD | Black | TB73303200
26X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB73303100
26X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB73303000
26X2.40 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3C/EXO | Black | TB72907300
26X2.40 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO | Black | TB72907400
26X2.40 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | ST/EXO | Black | TB72907500
26X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB72910100
26X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB72910000
26X2.40WT | 60TPI | WIRE | ST/DH | Black | TB72907200
26X2.40WT | 60TPI | WIRE | 3CG | Black | TB72907100
26X2.40WT | 60TPI | WIRE | DH | Black | TB72907000
26X2.80 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3C/EXO/TR | Black | TB74394000
26X2.80 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB74394100
27.5X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB85927000
27.5X2.30 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/TR/DD | Black | TB85927400
27.5X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB85927200
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB85962100
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00112300
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/TR/DH | Black | TB85962700
27.5X2.40WT | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/TR/DD | Black | TB85962600
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Tan Wall | TB00220200
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB85962000
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/EXO/TR | Black | TB00354300
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | WIRE | 3CG/DH | Black | TB91051000
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | WIRE | ST/DH | Black | TB91051100
27.5X2.40WT | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/TR/DD | Black | TB00132400
27.5X2.40 | 60TPI | WIRE |  | Black | TB91051600
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00447400
27.5X2.60 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00093900
27.5X2.60 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB91149100
27.5X2.60 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB91149000
27.5X2.80 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB96909000
27.5X2.80 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00113800
27.5X2.80 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB96909100
29X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB96776100
29X2.30 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/TR/DD | Black | TB96776400
29X2.30 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB96776000
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB96797100
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00112200
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/TR/DH | Black | TB96797500
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/EXO/TR | Black | TB00143900
29X2.40WT | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/TR/DD | Black | TB00087500
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Tan Wall | TB00220400
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB96797000
29X2.40WT | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/TR/DD | Black | TB00307900
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | WIRE | DH/TR | Black | TB00368500
29X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00447500
29X2.60 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB00073100
29X2.60 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB00073200
29X2.60 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Tan Wall | TB00220300
29X2.60 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00096300
29X3.00 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | EXO/TR | Black | TB96835100
29X3.00 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO/TR | Black | TB96835200
27.5X2.40WT | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DH/TR/E50 | Black | TB00472700
27.5X2.60 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DD/TR | Black | TB00278600
29X2.60 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DD/TR/TANWALL | Tan Wall | TB00353000
29X2.50 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DH/TR | Black | TB00517800
29X2.50 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DD/TR | Black | TB00518000
29X2.50 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00518200
27.5X2.50 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DH/TR | Black | TB00518400
27.5X2.50 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/DD/TR | Black | TB00518600
27.5X2.50 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CT/EXO+/TR | Black | TB00518700
29X2.50 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/DH/TR | Black | TB00550800
29X2.50 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3Cg/DD/TR | Black | TB00551000
27.5X2.50 | 60TPI | FOLDABLE | 3CG/DH/TR | Black | TB00551200
27.5X2.50 | 120TPI | FOLDABLE | 3Cg/DD/TR | Black | TB00551400

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2.5 dhr2 is lovely, ‘bout time.   But 2.4 front/ 2.3 rear dhr2 is already dope if you can still manage to find a 25mm ID rim on the rear of your bike.

Bringing back non-wt 2.4” product would be even better for people that haven’t bought into the wide rim trend, but, alas I guess 30mm id is here to stay?

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Fascinating conversation, y’all 

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Fascinating conversation, y’all 

What kind of ebike is best?

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What kind of ebike is best?

The red one.

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4/12/2024 1:24pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike

To me it looks like ebikes have been the driver for Maxxis to make the DHRII available to the public in 2.5 and/or with harder compounds in DH casings. Shame we could have gotten there earlier with existing demand but beggars can’t be choosers. 

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4/12/2024 1:49pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike

I'm curious what you guys are stoked about with the 2.5 over 2.4? 

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