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Huh. Frame seems to be identical to the Meta V5, just with a different set of links and a 170mm fork.
that would be cool to buy some links to go back and forth for a few hundred $$$
And a shock
Bird does that with the aeris 9, a 180 mm link is just over 100 eur. Same shock though.
Rocky Mountain does too. with the Altitude and Instinct (link and shock).
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pit bits 2 (now working) from vds - https://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/pit-bits-2-val-di-sole-world-c…
Hilarious from Commencal to mark the launch of the Meta SX V5: https://discover.commencal.com/landing-meta-sx-v5-eu-en/.
My bike came with Alloy RaceFace 35s and the difference going to the OneUp carbon was insane, so much less feedback through the hands.
That's prob one of the best recommendos I've seen a co make. If it goes against their financial interests and they say it anyway, that's not to be taken lightly. Kudos!
The shape of that bar is super unique and allows for more vibration damping in it. Without sounding too product preachy, it was that bar that made us really rethink bar design and why our new alloy has a very similar profile to take the jar and buzz out of hits.
it's 140mm, but in 2019 the Stumpy Evo. 63.5 deg Head angle.
That's just off the top of my head
But yeah, maybe I was overzealous in my comment, god forbid lol.
Well, looks like Jesse's got the new Vivid Air. It can only be so long now... Right?
I was looking at the Canfield brothers' CBF suspension patent when I noticed Chris has two pending patents under his Suspension Formulas kinematics company, and they seem pretty interesting. One is essentially a frame with different main pivot locations to provide a "selectable axle path" (seen here), while the other is a new 4- or 6-bar suspension system with the BB located on the lower link (here). At the bottom of Suspension Formulas' website they list their available designs, with the addition of two new ones: "Chris' Formula Zero/CFZero" which mentions the moving-BB design patent in its description, and "Chris' Formula Three/CF3" which is described as a "quiver killer" (which I assume is the adjustable axle path design). No idea when these may make it to market, but I can't wait. (The CF1 design is the existing one on the Canfield Jedi for those wondering)
I heard Chris was racing a CF3 bike at enduro of nations or some race like that. Never saw any pictures though.
CF3?
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There are more photos: https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider4964/chris-canfield/photos/filters/page1/
CF1:
no 12° backsweep, no buy
In theory, a moving BB mounted on the lower link could pass without an idler while still having a rearward axle path because of a high pivot, right? The only questionable point in all this would be how will the rider feel with this moving BB - guess in order for it to not feel weird, the BB must move only several mm (may be equal to the axle path). Am i correct in these assumptions?
Previous issues with URT designs were that pedal pressure from your feet is counter to the suspension movement of the BB and resists suspension action in small bump compliance.
Was more curious than anything,
my V1 Sentinel was 140 with a 64HA, it was a blast to ride.
‘but I think the Stumpy EVO, and Sentinel were sorta in a class of their own, you could easily classify them as Enduro bikes, especially as they run 160 forks, and Transition even have the green light for 170’s
Lol, I’m 100% ok with that. I prefer a 12 also. 🤷🏽
Just out of curiosity what do you think the main benefit of a 12° (or just more backsweep than normal) is? I’ve seen guys like Paul Aston and the NSMB guys preach about it but can’t really see how it would be that game changing. Is it just personal preference or do you believe there’s some performance gains made using more sweep than standard.
angle of the joint of my hands is relaxed, or not. for me the difference in being able to ride through or needing to take a break for the hands
This 100%
I switch to the PNW Range Bar with a 10° backsweep and it made a big difference over the 8° stock bars.
You guys add longer stems when using that much backsweep? Actual reach must be shortned a lot?
40mm stock replaced with 50mm PNW Range.
I'm curious to hear from other folks on this. Currently on renthal bars. I think they have 7° backsweep? I think I like the forward aggressive position they put me in. Been very curious about the pnw bars especially for the price!
Uh oh, we're verging on "Backsweep Rumors and Innovation."