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Two layers of Stans tape is a little generous for DT Swiss rims since they are typically bang-on with ETRTO spec. But otherwise nothing seems too off...
For context, the kevlar bead cores used among all folding MTB tires gets plucked off a rack, and then gets folded into a casing execution (Gravity in this case). Then the blank gets impressed and vulcanized into the tread pattern mold of choice.
Little chance for deviation among tread types with the same casing.
Regardless I hope both have preformed well for ya.
Schwalbe North America has a warranty policy if things are seeming defective.
Did you trim the shredda ?
Noted a post from downamics and he’s cut a bit off them
Yes I trimmed mine down. I wanted to try the radial but couldn’t find Mary’s. I got these for cheap because they say shredda rear on them. Page 31 has my post.
The durability of the doubledown maxxterra dissector v2 isn't proving to be very good on the back of my RAAW Madonna. I have 7 big rides on it with total of 104km/6200M (64mi/20,000ft) and the side knobs are falling apart. Some of them are half torn and might fall off pretty soon. The center tread looks pretty fresh considering how bad the side knobs are. The Assegai Maxxgrip I installed at the same time looks almost brand new in comparison. My riding consists of rocky/loose/very steep trails in the Canadian Rockies. I am 165lb, ride aggressive but don't drag my rear tire.
Can anyone relate to this or do I have a lemon? I really love this tire but I can't spend $150 CAD every two weeks. Funny enough the Maxterra EXO version on my Stumpjumper flexstay does not show this tearing and almost looks brand new.
EDIT: this turned out to be a manufacturing defect and Maxxis has issued a replacement. Stoked to keep running this tire.
This post seems to have aged well. Although a bit of a bummer, the tire looks like a cool tread. I guess I'll stick with the Xynotol.
Yikes that’s not what you want to see. I just got a pair in maxxgrip EXO+ for use on the front - hopefully my experience is different.
Somewhat relatedly, what do the tire nerds think of pairing the Dissector V2 in the front with the Xynotal (soft, enduro) in the rear for a fast-rolling short travel trail setup?
Just sent you a DM. It shouldn't be wearing that fast.
Thank you @ARonBurgundy Maxxis issued a replacement due to my tire being defective. Looking forward to riding a whole lot more on it!
Switched up my light trail bike to Forekaster 2.4 Maxterra front and Ikon 2.2 maxxspeed rear. Honestly blow away how much grip this setup has, both braking and cornering. The local trails are all mild cross country loops, but still these tires kinda rip.
That's cool to hear. Most of the stuff around me is also mild XC hardpack (and moondust) so it sounds like I'm in a similar position and can grab that little extra piece of info and put it in my back pocket for the future. Thanks for including the compound info!
I'm looking forward to the spring when I put on my just-got-'em-the-other-day Forekaster/Rekon MaxxTerra pair on. I suspect I'll be seeing snow soon so I'm going to keep my DHF/Aggressor combo for now.
Slipping in for a selfish question. Looking to upgrade now. 200 pound rider who rides like shit (former BMXer, bad lines good times).
From what I've read, I'd like to try a DH krypto rear, and a radial DH Magic Mary(/Albert?) front (mullet). Only alternatives that I've seen but not understood much about would be High Roller 3 (apparently front and rear) or matching radials front and rear as well. (To be fair, I suppose I'll add in dual Conti... But I've heard better things about its rear performance, not as much its front.)
Current issues (same ones I've always had) are pinging rims way too much when running lower pressures for traction, as well as rear tire roll EVEN when at higher psi. So, goals are being able to run higher pressures with some traction retention (without the use of inserts).
(Not concerned about rolling resistance/speed. Not racing, up or down. Local conditions are SoCal hard pack or moon dust. Hero dirt is a theory to a person like me, something I imagine what it feels like, yet will never experience. Bike is a mid travel mullet, meant for all around riding.)
dh krypto soft rear, dd highroller 3 front for socal.
big fan of radial magic mary front and tacky chan rear, but I could see why people may not get along with the mm radial upfront.
I think an underrated conti combo is the kryptotal front - in the front and rear.
What tires / casings are you currently running?
I'm up on the NorCal coast where local conditions look similar to what I've seen in SoCal videos - hardpack with a coating of powder / loose sand / gravel. I personally found the MM to be too squirmy for this - the rubber itself is quite soft and the side knobs are pretty small. I'd suggest taking a good hard look at the High Roller 3 in DH or at least DD. The side knobs are burly, and the center tread is open enough to penetrate loose over hard (especially decomposed granite & gravel), but not too spiky to cause squirming when it's just hardpack.
Have had a few rides on radials.
MM trail pro US up front
Albert gravity pro soft rear.
Albert's feel like a much faster rolling assegai. Kind of reminds me of a more sure footed dissector v1/eliminator. Driftier than a DHRII which I kinda enjoy. We'll see how it handles on some steeper terrain as I'm moving from softer compound rubber to a "medium soft" compound.
Need more time to formulate my opinion on MM's. They have the grip but a bit more vague than Assegai/E13 Grapplers I've run more recently.
Literally just came to the forum today to ask about opinions on the dual krypto fr combo. I'm running krypto fr/xyno right now and it's fun till you hit the steep and loose stuff. I'd just get the krypto Re, but this way I could potentially run the same tire front and back while keeping a little of the zippiness from the Xyno. (Enduro/soft if you're wondering with a CC trail insert in the back, I'm 215 over here)
@TEAMROBOT's favorite rear tire
Is the 2.5 a true 2.5? I know the 2.4 version runs a bit narrow. I haven't bothered getting the 2.5 version just because I run a 2.4 HR3 in the front.
Strictly comparing the 2.4 to 2.5, are there any differences in knob size, etc?
Yeah good question. The 2.5 DHR2 measured out at a true 63mm at the casing and 64mm at the knobs on my 30mm rear ethirteen rim, which is 2.48” and 2.52” respectively. So I’d say yes, that’s a true 2.5”. I always thought the 2.4” DHR2 was undersized and didn’t love it as a rear tire for that exact reason- I’m hard on rear wheels and tires and I want that extra volume as insurance for bad decisions. On the one hand, I feel like a crazy person if I say I can feel an additional 0.1” of tire width, but I think it’s a little more than that in practice.
I'm curious, why do you say you wouldn't pick the DHR for a race? And what type of race are we talking about, downhill or enduro? And what would be your pick for that? 😁
I was running the DHR2 2.5 F/R MG/MT DH, this is my favorite Maxxis setup but I haven't tried the HR3. I will say nothing beats the lifespan of the conti's. I am currently on the cannibals and think its better than the DHR in most ways minus wear (rear only). It would be nice if they came out with a bike park edition of that tire.
Had conti on last winter for riding on Vancouver island. The contis latest longer than maxxis, front had great support and grip. Rear was generally good, but didn’t provide as much traction for technical climbing compared to a dhr2.
Have had a hr3 on front for most of summer and it will be go to front from now on (vs aggesi and conti). Have hr3 on rear overall good, again not as well for technical climbing as dhr2, but for wet season it’s been good.
Overall maxxis wear quicker than conti
Great question, I guess I wasn't very clear about that. I was unconsciously thinking of a DH race when I said that, where I would always pick the full MaxxGrip setup front and rear for maximum grip, braking, and damping. For an enduro race, it would depend on how much flat and pedaling there was. If it was a very DH-style Enduro race I would lean towards a MaxxGrip rear, but if it had a lot of flat and pedal sections in the race stages (who cares what the transfers are like) I would be stoked to have the MaxxTerra.
For anyone looking for a HR3, Argotal, Shorty and that kind of tire I recommend Specialized Hillbily
Like this tire fucks :D 2.4, T9, Grid gravity and damn it is good.
Ran Argotals Dh super soft in the front before and it is almost as good in the wet and on loamers, but way better when it is dry, especially in loose over hard.
Casing is nicely damped,cornering is predictable and super nice, and from first impressions I think it will last longer.
Like I had Argotal side knobs undercutting after 3 months, like 2000 meteres of elevation per week, which made it very sketchy to ride.
+it is cheaper, and it has way cooler name
Two things I really like about the Conti Kryptotals in DH casing SS compound-
1. The grip is predictable and it's easy to feel. No, I don't think they have as much maximum grip as the Maxxis maxxgrip compound but when the maxxis gives, it just goes. The kryptotals have a lower ceiling but falls off in a slower and predictable way.
2. They last longer. Putting a DH maxxgrip DHRII on my rear lasted me barely a month in bikepark season, but the Kryptotals usually can last at least half a season.
Just my 2 cents, 195lb 5'11'' rider.
You got almost a month out of a MaxxGrip DH2 in the bike park?! How many rides? <5?
I did a 25,000ft day at Whistler two summers ago and totally roached a brand new Kryptotal Rear Super Soft (on the rear wheel) in that single day. Tire knobs were ravaged. And I've found MaxxGrip to wear faster than Conti Super Soft, because it's softer and stickier.
Creek is only 800ft elevation so it's not that bad. I did 5 days at whistler and only went through 2 Kryptotal Rears
I’m not too sensitive with rolling resistance so can’t comment on that but it sounds like a kryptotal super soft will be fine for you. Don’t overthink it.
So for those of us radial curious, it sounds like it's not worth the premium yet?
Minions/Assegai have good wear life, handle very predictably, and as they wear out they maintain performance better than most. They also have great puncture resistance.
Is extra raw grip worth that trade off?
They’re way better than those minions so 100% worth it
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