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lucythefin
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9/15/2023 1:22pm Edited Date/Time 9/15/2023 1:24pm
HH4L wrote:
So I went to the Specialized shop here in Canada and the girl really didn't know about a new Enduro at all... She said to go...

So I went to the Specialized shop here in Canada and the girl really didn't know about a new Enduro at all... She said to go back in october when they'll have 2024 catalogue but for now, they don't even have an embargo for it, just nothing..!?  

I am not sure about the Slash anymore so I'll wait to see if there is something special about that new Altitude, maybe the Sight too but I think I'm gonna try to find something more like a 6bar than HP with idler. Sad   

Atherton are not talking a lot about that new 170mm enduro, only about the smaller and DH ones.... probably be a lonnggg time before we can buy the ''cheaper'' option we saw, that seems to be alloy. 

lucythefin wrote:

Just get an WAO Arrival 170. Best long travel enduro bike I've ridden period.

HH4L wrote:
I don't want to go back to a slack seatutube!  It seems like a perfect bike otherwise but that really bothers me... if I could at...

I don't want to go back to a slack seatutube!  It seems like a perfect bike otherwise but that really bothers me... if I could at least try one but that's a lot of money to send to them knowing that I'll probably be over that rear wheel, like my first Knolly. Sad  

They don't have the frame only option anymore???  Pretty sure they used to have that... now they only have the CAD 11k SP1 bike on their site. 

I am on the smaller side, 5'6" maybe 5'7", riding their size 2 or Medium and seat tube is not slack at all, maybe if you are at the very end of their largest size, I wouldn't know tall people problems. At least comparable to all the other bikes I've owned and ridden recently. 2022 Transition Patrol, Sentinel, Spire, 2023 Smuggler, 2023 Intense Tracer 279, 2023 Specialized SJ and SJ EVO, 2023 SCOR 4060, 2023 Trek Fuel. Best pedaling and climbing bike out of the bunch too.

The ProsCloset has new frames for sale, discounted too. Not the new ones with UDH and mullet rear ends but you can always upgrade to that in the future. Pink Bike also has a lot of for sale in Canada too.

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Uncle Cliffy
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9/15/2023 1:34pm

So like a shore then?

Wink

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Uncle Cliffy
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9/15/2023 1:35pm
orrhadar wrote:

Does anybody here have a release date for the norco HP's that were mentioned here?

Embargoed until spring 2024.

Primoz
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9/15/2023 2:12pm
lucythefin wrote:

Just get an WAO Arrival 170. Best long travel enduro bike I've ridden period.

HH4L wrote:
I don't want to go back to a slack seatutube!  It seems like a perfect bike otherwise but that really bothers me... if I could at...

I don't want to go back to a slack seatutube!  It seems like a perfect bike otherwise but that really bothers me... if I could at least try one but that's a lot of money to send to them knowing that I'll probably be over that rear wheel, like my first Knolly. Sad  

They don't have the frame only option anymore???  Pretty sure they used to have that... now they only have the CAD 11k SP1 bike on their site. 

lucythefin wrote:
I am on the smaller side, 5'6" maybe 5'7", riding their size 2 or Medium and seat tube is not slack at all, maybe if you...

I am on the smaller side, 5'6" maybe 5'7", riding their size 2 or Medium and seat tube is not slack at all, maybe if you are at the very end of their largest size, I wouldn't know tall people problems. At least comparable to all the other bikes I've owned and ridden recently. 2022 Transition Patrol, Sentinel, Spire, 2023 Smuggler, 2023 Intense Tracer 279, 2023 Specialized SJ and SJ EVO, 2023 SCOR 4060, 2023 Trek Fuel. Best pedaling and climbing bike out of the bunch too.

The ProsCloset has new frames for sale, discounted too. Not the new ones with UDH and mullet rear ends but you can always upgrade to that in the future. Pink Bike also has a lot of for sale in Canada too.

Seat height for tall riders often comes quite far above the top of the headset which means the actual seat tube angle affects the effective cockpit length and body position. The advertised seat tube angle used to be 3+ degrees off the effective seat tube angle at seat height.

For medium-large riders the seat height is much closer to the top of the headset and thus the advertised effective and the resulting seat tube angle are very close to each other.

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boozed
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9/15/2023 2:45pm
orrhadar wrote:

Does anybody here have a release date for the norco HP's that were mentioned here?

Embargoed until spring 2024.

Bloody hell that's 12 months away

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lloyd506
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9/15/2023 3:00pm Edited Date/Time 9/15/2023 3:00pm
orrhadar wrote:

Does anybody here have a release date for the norco HP's that were mentioned here?

Embargoed until spring 2024.

boozed wrote:

Bloody hell that's 12 months away

Norco could shut down before the new bikes are released. 

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9/15/2023 4:04pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside) https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside)

https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

chatelA

Is that Jack Moir using an OChain? That would be new for him.... have we all agreed yet if they are effective?

He did have one on the old strive for a little bit. 

Uncle Cliffy
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9/15/2023 4:36pm
boozed wrote:

Bloody hell that's 12 months away

That’s only six months for me. Laughing

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Evil96
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9/16/2023 12:48pm

IMG 0272.png?VersionId=.g25O63zvXTLLBG8EPpIAtoNew shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

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lickmycrinkle
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9/16/2023 2:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/16/2023 2:51pm
Evil96 wrote:
New shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

IMG 0272.png?VersionId=.g25O63zvXTLLBG8EPpIAtoNew shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

RT-CL900.

Seems to have dropped with the recent 12 speed mechanical GRX and 105.

RT-CL900-203-primary 1 750 750.jpg?VersionId=Dxc

 

The recent article from https://escapecollective.com/shimano-grx-rx820-12-speed-mechanical-a-hands-on-look/ suggests that the whole line of freeza rotors is going to this less polygonal shape moving forward, which was introduced with 12spd Dura-Ace.

screenshot-escapecollective.com-2023.09.16-23 39 39

Looks like while the covers are off on Shimano's website, they're not in any online stores yet (in 180 or 203).

I personally preferred the edgier look, and somehow I guess the polygons would stick out into the wind more.

Here's XT just for kicks too. Here's hoping they make a CL 220 in something higher than Deore, my fat ass needs the cooling.

RT-CL800-203-primary 1 750 750

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9/16/2023 2:51pm

Anyone know the Rocky Instinct/Altitude embargo date?

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9/16/2023 3:56pm
Evil96 wrote:
New shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

IMG 0272.png?VersionId=.g25O63zvXTLLBG8EPpIAtoNew shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

Hand is hiding the rebound knob from the new damper

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mike_dee
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9/17/2023 2:22am
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside) https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside)

https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

chatelA

Is that Jack Moir using an OChain? That would be new for him.... have we all agreed yet if they are effective?

Probably Texi, Jack doesnt use coil shock either, he has a Vivid

cprnc
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9/17/2023 6:33am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 6:41am

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

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mtbthe603
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9/17/2023 8:50am

New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

Screenshot 2023-09-17 at 8.44.04 AM

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9/17/2023 12:55pm

Is it just me or does this HP Rocky have both a double crown fork and a widerange cassette? Smile  

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9/17/2023 3:29pm
mtbthe603 wrote:
New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

Screenshot 2023-09-17 at 8.44.04 AM

Wonder why the downvote.  Man’s speaking the truth 

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veefour
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9/17/2023 5:41pm Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 5:44pm
mtbthe603 wrote:
New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

Screenshot 2023-09-17 at 8.44.04 AM

Wonder why the downvote.  Man’s speaking the truth 

I'm guessing it's because it's an ebike. But it's an ebike that used to have cable tourism and they've addressed the issue. That's a win in my book.

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metadave
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9/17/2023 9:43pm

Is it just me or does this HP Rocky have both a double crown fork and a widerange cassette? Smile  

That may or may not have been a slayer proto that didnt happen... from my understanding they couldn't get it to ride the way they wanted, which was poppy and playful instead of a full sled

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9/18/2023 3:42am

Then apparently they need to contact Devinci and ask them what they did with the Chainsaw in order for everybody to rave about it and still say it’s not a full blown dh-weapon! Smile

9/18/2023 8:24am

When’s a new ripmo coming out?

Trocko
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9/18/2023 8:30am

When’s a new ripmo coming out?

Soon

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9/18/2023 8:45am
cprnc wrote:
Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

image-20230917154015-1

1llumA wrote:

Can also see the new altitude briefly being assembled @ 6:38 and black frame hanging @ 7:01

Capture d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran 2023-09-18 a%CC%80 17.40.06

 

You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

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9/18/2023 10:51am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2023 10:58am

p3pb25560094

Fox +2022 crowns got 4 mm higher. This one looks differently. More like ext.

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PellyNH
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9/18/2023 12:04pm

When’s a new ripmo coming out?

Trocko wrote:

Soon

I'd assume we'd see a new Ripley at the same time.....no?

brewtus
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9/18/2023 12:24pm
cprnc wrote:
Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

image-20230917154015-1

1llumA wrote:

Can also see the new altitude briefly being assembled @ 6:38 and black frame hanging @ 7:01

  You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Capture d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran 2023-09-18 a%CC%80 17.40.06

 

You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Some interesting stuff hanging on the wall. Likely the new Altitude on the far right which lines up with the previous (now private) video. Beside it are what looks like the current Instinct / Altitude frame with a penalty box. Perhaps the Instinct and Altitude will have different frames, or it could be a new Element? Then the blue frame with a seat stay brace and what looks like a shock tunnel matching the aluminum mule with a dual crown. 

frames

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9/18/2023 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2023 4:03pm
cprnc wrote:
Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

image-20230917154015-1

1llumA wrote:

Can also see the new altitude briefly being assembled @ 6:38 and black frame hanging @ 7:01

  You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Capture d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran 2023-09-18 a%CC%80 17.40.06

 

You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Seems like their mule could use different "main" pivots; one for an idler and one without (and you can see the resulting differences in motion ratio in the graph, with the idler system having slightly lower leverage in the first half of travel and a barely more progressive end behavior). Probably a solid chance we'll see the 'production concept' within a year or two.

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You can also see an aluminum e-bike frame elsewhere in the video as well:

Screenshot 2023-09-18 141135

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