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12/17/2015 2:18am
Graves words on pinkbike :

Hey team, cheers for the words, and support, ive had a quick read through here to see what you all are up to, and I thought i'd touch on a few points you seem curious on.
Ive had an awesome time with Yeti over the past 12 years, they are a great group of people, led by truly passionate and plain good people, and that is the number one reason I have stayed with them so long, and would also be perfectly happy to stay with. I have always been open to riding for other companies, but Yeti always presented me with what I felt was right for me at the time. On the other hand, Im a bike rider first and foremost, and there are also other brands I have a lot of respect for, Specialized is a company that for probably the past 5-6 years has been at the top of that list. Ive always thought they have had awesome product, and to me, they way the go about searching for the next innovative and evolution of product, not just to do with their bikes, but all their range of other parts and riding gear are no compromise performance parts, which is something that always attracted me.

As a kid I was always a huge Palmer fan, and I can honestly say that Specialized was the first company that I would lay in bed at night as a teenager and dream of riding for.

When they approached me earlier this year, from the first time I spoke with them, it was clear to me that they would be a perfect fit. Their current and future product lines, goals with the team, and results aside, other things that were important to them and myself all lined up. Something ive noticed at the EWS round the past year is the positive atmosphere going on at all times in their pits, Everyone always has a smile on their face and they all seem to be having a great time. This is super important to me. If it's not fun, I don't want to be anywhere near it.

Skype Conversations and emails went back and forth flat out for well over a month, and by that time I knew it was where I wanted to be. A week stay in Morgan Hill early November eased any concerns I had, when I saw the headquarters first hand, and was blown away. Not just by everything they have going on their, but that the atmosphere was amazing, Just like Yeti is, only on a bigger scale. Every employee there is a super motivated, passionate, bike fanatic! That was apparent with how competitive the employee rides were haha.

to clear up few points
- enduro 650 and Stumpy 650 will be my "go-to's" but a 29er at certain races is for sure on the cards if its right. Horses for courses!
- Yeti's focus is 100% on Enduro, as is Richies, If you hold your breath waiting for a World Cup DH team to start up, you will definitely pass out. But Richie is keen on doing some DH racing, as am I if the calendar permits, and you can prepare to be competitive. Both Richie and Myself arent interested in racing World Cup DH for shits and giggles.
- While there has been surprisingly few people saying "I sold out" which to be honest I expected more of. to the ones that did say it....Are you freaking serious? Do you know how little Pro MTB riders make? I couldnt afford a Ferrari this year and I certainly Still cant afford one next year (for the record I drive an 8 year old Volkswagen van, with over 200,000km on the odometer that im the 3rd owner of, And will be for many years yet) If a company didnt make top notch product, there is no way I would ever sign with them. Theres a handful of people close to me that know that Specialized is a company I have always said I would ride for.
- Im impressed by the bikes, the limited riding ive done on them has eased any concerns I had initially, after so long with Yeti. Honestly, these days there are a lot of damn good bikes out there, theres a lot of companies that have good people and know what they are doing. While Yeti is super innovative, but as a small company they have to be careful what they throw their money into. And picking and choosing what they throw their money at when it comes to developing bikes is something they do very well, i'd almost say they have it down to an art. Specialized approaches things the same, but due to their size have the ability to try a few more ideas without it majorly financially hurting the company. This is something that will always give the big guy an edge over the small guy.

Anyways, cheers for the support guys, bring on 2016!




So no Graves or Rude in WC DH and i can understand.

For Gwin, i'm really surprised, his season was just unbelievable on the Demo like Brosnan. Have no idea where he's gonna land.... YT or Canyon ?!? I don't see others brands who can afford a contract with him.
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12/17/2015 8:34am
bizutch wrote:
Man, people trying to bang on Keene's results is hilarious. He is absurdly fast and plus he is a HUGE guy in person. Know that sounds...
Man, people trying to bang on Keene's results is hilarious. He is absurdly fast and plus he is a HUGE guy in person. Know that sounds silly, but his presence at a race is obvious. He's infectious and there are tons of reasons to sponsor the guy. Feedback, his blistering schedule, talent, focus, determination, marketing knowledge, communication skill.

Tough to put into words, but I fully understand why he's there. Dude is a grinder.
First, I didn't mean for my statement to be overly dickish. He's a good dude for sure.

But yeah, to have full factory support and a paycheck usually takes better-than-Keene's results, especially at his age. There are a lot of guys who have presence at a race, there are a lot of guys who give awesome R&D feedback, ambassadors are in no short supply (one reason the sport is awesome!).

Some guys are uber factory pro, some are not...but a company like specialized and brand like red bull usually doesn't care about the riff raff. They want a contender or they want nothing at all. Put another way, that red bull helmet is akin to the white helmet of the stig (top gear reference). I don't think his past results warrant it, "presence" or not.

Don't forget, the pie is only so big. Specialized/Red Bull going out of their way to support Keene's lackluster results means another up and comer is going without support.

That all said good for him for having one more year to crack the formula. He's an American, he's fast, he's hard working and he's a good dude. Of course I'm rooting for him. (unless I'm "racing" him...I put it in quotes because I've never beat him and likely never will...so yeah, not much of a race).

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12/17/2015 9:39am
Kurtis is a really good talker, he's easy to listen to, his rhetoric is good. Jared is similar in this way.

As for results, look at Jon Olsson. It is _NOT_ about the results, it is about crowd appeal. Jon Olsson hasn't had a result in years, yet he's still sponsored by Red Bull. And more and more new people are his fans, even though he hardly even skis anymore.
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12/17/2015 9:46am Edited Date/Time 12/17/2015 10:02am
Primoz wrote:
Kurtis is a really good talker, he's easy to listen to, his rhetoric is good. Jared is similar in this way. As for results, look at...
Kurtis is a really good talker, he's easy to listen to, his rhetoric is good. Jared is similar in this way.

As for results, look at Jon Olsson. It is _NOT_ about the results, it is about crowd appeal. Jon Olsson hasn't had a result in years, yet he's still sponsored by Red Bull. And more and more new people are his fans, even though he hardly even skis anymore.
Again, I'm not saying Keene isn't well spoken, a good dude and above all else *valuable*. I'm just saying Specialized usually wants the complete package (results being part of it) and he hasn't delivered.

To compare Keene to Jon is a joke. His social following is triple to 5x of Keene. Keene has never been best in the world at any point whereas Jon was the best big air skier in the world for a number of years. He changed the sport. I think he was the first dude to do a double in competition (kangaroo flip). Jon was an icon...and in many ways remains that icon. His reach is *massive*. He also has a much longer standing relationship with Red Bull (from the early days)...oh and he's a total playboy to boot with a super interesting life (in the reality tv since of things).

Your analogy doesn't hold water.







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12/17/2015 10:12am Edited Date/Time 12/17/2015 10:14am
Steve Smith looks like he's getting back to his old self. One can only hope he's recovered and got his mojo back. The WC has sorely been missing him since he won his title. He never got a proper chance to defend the title. I feel bad for the guy.



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12/17/2015 11:16am
Gwin's profile in "I Am Specialized" (Rider section) does not exist anymore...
Where?
Nteague1 wrote:
I believe they were referring to this list

http://www.iamspecialized.com/riders/?team=Specialized-Racing-Mountain

It definitely is strange that Gwin is no longer listed as one of the MTB athletes.
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Where?
Nteague1 wrote:
Democho wrote:
I believe they were referring to this list

http://www.iamspecialized.com/riders/?team=Specialized-Racing-Mountain

It definitely is strange that Gwin is no longer listed as one of the MTB athletes.
Mitch is also missing.
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12/17/2015 9:30pm
Where?
Nteague1 wrote:
Democho wrote:
I believe they were referring to this list

http://www.iamspecialized.com/riders/?team=Specialized-Racing-Mountain

It definitely is strange that Gwin is no longer listed as one of the MTB athletes.
it depends on the device - on my mobile gwin has left spesh (can´t find him) and on my computer he is still riding for them ;-)

I guess it is a feed that takes all the social media posts and shows them there - troy brosnan would otherwise be payed 5 to 6 times for riding :-)
12/18/2015 5:49am
New title sponsors, new bikes, and a couple of new riders for Ben Reid's Dirt team for 2016, now the "Propain Dirt Zelvy" team.

Here is what Ben Reid had to say:

“When one door closes another one normally opens and I am pleased to say we couldn’t have been more welcomed by our new title sponsors Propain Bikes and Zelvy Carbon who will make up the new title position of team ‘Propain Dirt Zelvy’ for 2016 and 2017. I’ve been really happy with how the team has progressed this past few seasons and its nice to see the hard work by everyone paying off, having more choice for sponsorship than any other off season in the past it has really allowed us to pick and choose and I feel really confident in the brands we are moving forward with.



Within days of talking to Robert Krauss from Propain it was clear that the understanding of what it takes to support a World Cup race team was there, and from some of our first chats with Robert he was already offering custom frame sizes to insure the bikes would be a perfect fit for each individual rider considering their size, style and preferences. I spent a fair amount of time looking around the Propain booth at Eurobike this year and the undeniable quality and attention to detail of these bikes stood out to me, following this up by studying the suspension kinematics of the Propain Rage it was clear what I was looking at had a lot of thought put into every detail. At that time we had several frame manufacturers to consider but testing the Propain bikes sealed the deal for us.

Zelvy Carbon is a company who make a lot of high tech carbon products and they will be supporting us with their carbon wheelsets whilst joining Propain and Dirt to make up the team title. I was really impressed by the information Greg Geldard from Zelvy was able to show me from all the testing they have carried out. Zelvy make some of the fastest and best value carbon wheels on the planet and we had been eyeing them up for some time and watching them sell their wheels all over the world. I know Steve Jones, Deputy Editor at Dirt, has been testing a pair for almost a year now and from what I understand he might never give them back! We know they’ll give our team an advantage over the rest, with the added stiffness of the carbon riding with precision it is a lot easier and even keeping the bike rolling as things flatten out is much more efficient. Greg had talked about improvements they made to help tyre stability and to eliminate burping, which has been a problem in the past, so it’s great to know they have covered every detail. Our partnership with these guys is something we are very excited about and I firmly believe their products will go a long way in helping our guys in their chase for results.

We have had a great first season with X-Fusion suspension this year and I know I can speak for everyone on the team to say how happy we are to continue with them, out of the box these are truly outstanding products with quality far greater than the price tag. We are also very pleased to continue with our clothing and protection partner Bliss, the team has been working closely with them as they developed their first line of race kit and again these guys put in so much effort into making sure their products are top notch, they also go over and above to make sure the team has its own unique kit, and as you can see they are on it already having our 2016 kit well under way.

Bell helmets, Giro shoes, Schwalbe tyres, Works Components headsets, all long term supporters of the team who we couldn’t be happier to continue with. Juice Lubes will be keeping our bikes and truck shiny clean and well lubed all season, which is other new partner we are pleased to welcome on board. You might have seen some of their ‘Home To Roost’ episodes showing a bunch of fast UK riders at their local trails, if not it is worth logging onto their website or Facebook page and checking these out. It’s clear to see the company is made up of true bike enthusiasts.

Another welcome partner to the team in Funn Components who we have signed with for both season as well and I am pleased to say they will be decking our bikes out with their bars, stems, grips, cranks, chain guides, chain rings, seat posts, saddles and seat clamps. Funn is a company I used ride for myself back in my Iron Horse days, for me these guys really set the standard with modern handlebar geometry that a lot of companies seemed to follow. I remember getting way too attached to my Funn ‘Full On’ handlebars and have since found it hard to have the same comfortable feel. The team is also proud to be working with Crank Brothers pedals and again the passion these guys are showing for the team at such an early stage is unbelievable and they are already talking about custom team coloured pedals, a relatively small detail but pretty cool all the same. X Force will be keeping the muck out of our eyes as the team’s new eye wear partner, another company getting on board and offering the team custom colours. Last but not least Slik Graphics have been a big part in the image of the team and will continue to make all our team graphics for the frames and forks.”

Full sponsor list for 2016:
Propain, Dirt, Zelvy, X-Fusion, Bliss, Funn, Juice Lubes, Bell, Schwalbe, Giro, XForce, Crank Brothers, Works, Slik and Atlas.


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12/18/2015 7:41am
Can anybody

guess the frame based upon this photo?
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12/18/2015 7:49am
NóiNPO wrote:
Can anybody [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2015/12/18/3035/s1200_Bruni_hallj.jpg[/img] guess the frame based upon this photo?
Can anybody

guess the frame based upon this photo?
Well it is pretty clear the photo touching up of Joystick handlebar was not great. Nothing to see here. (yet at least) http://ridejoystick.com/team/
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12/18/2015 8:06am
NóiNPO wrote:
Can anybody [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2015/12/18/3035/s1200_Bruni_hallj.jpg[/img] guess the frame based upon this photo?
Can anybody

guess the frame based upon this photo?
whats up with the non red bull helmet?
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12/18/2015 8:26am
Holy horse stories Batman...there's no bike in the reflection. I think they've hit him in the arse with a hallucinogenic dart!
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12/18/2015 8:57am
iceman2058 wrote:
New title sponsors, new bikes, and a couple of new riders for Ben Reid's Dirt team for 2016, now the "Propain Dirt Zelvy" team. Here is...
New title sponsors, new bikes, and a couple of new riders for Ben Reid's Dirt team for 2016, now the "Propain Dirt Zelvy" team.

Here is what Ben Reid had to say:

“When one door closes another one normally opens and I am pleased to say we couldn’t have been more welcomed by our new title sponsors Propain Bikes and Zelvy Carbon who will make up the new title position of team ‘Propain Dirt Zelvy’ for 2016 and 2017. I’ve been really happy with how the team has progressed this past few seasons and its nice to see the hard work by everyone paying off, having more choice for sponsorship than any other off season in the past it has really allowed us to pick and choose and I feel really confident in the brands we are moving forward with.



Within days of talking to Robert Krauss from Propain it was clear that the understanding of what it takes to support a World Cup race team was there, and from some of our first chats with Robert he was already offering custom frame sizes to insure the bikes would be a perfect fit for each individual rider considering their size, style and preferences. I spent a fair amount of time looking around the Propain booth at Eurobike this year and the undeniable quality and attention to detail of these bikes stood out to me, following this up by studying the suspension kinematics of the Propain Rage it was clear what I was looking at had a lot of thought put into every detail. At that time we had several frame manufacturers to consider but testing the Propain bikes sealed the deal for us.

Zelvy Carbon is a company who make a lot of high tech carbon products and they will be supporting us with their carbon wheelsets whilst joining Propain and Dirt to make up the team title. I was really impressed by the information Greg Geldard from Zelvy was able to show me from all the testing they have carried out. Zelvy make some of the fastest and best value carbon wheels on the planet and we had been eyeing them up for some time and watching them sell their wheels all over the world. I know Steve Jones, Deputy Editor at Dirt, has been testing a pair for almost a year now and from what I understand he might never give them back! We know they’ll give our team an advantage over the rest, with the added stiffness of the carbon riding with precision it is a lot easier and even keeping the bike rolling as things flatten out is much more efficient. Greg had talked about improvements they made to help tyre stability and to eliminate burping, which has been a problem in the past, so it’s great to know they have covered every detail. Our partnership with these guys is something we are very excited about and I firmly believe their products will go a long way in helping our guys in their chase for results.

We have had a great first season with X-Fusion suspension this year and I know I can speak for everyone on the team to say how happy we are to continue with them, out of the box these are truly outstanding products with quality far greater than the price tag. We are also very pleased to continue with our clothing and protection partner Bliss, the team has been working closely with them as they developed their first line of race kit and again these guys put in so much effort into making sure their products are top notch, they also go over and above to make sure the team has its own unique kit, and as you can see they are on it already having our 2016 kit well under way.

Bell helmets, Giro shoes, Schwalbe tyres, Works Components headsets, all long term supporters of the team who we couldn’t be happier to continue with. Juice Lubes will be keeping our bikes and truck shiny clean and well lubed all season, which is other new partner we are pleased to welcome on board. You might have seen some of their ‘Home To Roost’ episodes showing a bunch of fast UK riders at their local trails, if not it is worth logging onto their website or Facebook page and checking these out. It’s clear to see the company is made up of true bike enthusiasts.

Another welcome partner to the team in Funn Components who we have signed with for both season as well and I am pleased to say they will be decking our bikes out with their bars, stems, grips, cranks, chain guides, chain rings, seat posts, saddles and seat clamps. Funn is a company I used ride for myself back in my Iron Horse days, for me these guys really set the standard with modern handlebar geometry that a lot of companies seemed to follow. I remember getting way too attached to my Funn ‘Full On’ handlebars and have since found it hard to have the same comfortable feel. The team is also proud to be working with Crank Brothers pedals and again the passion these guys are showing for the team at such an early stage is unbelievable and they are already talking about custom team coloured pedals, a relatively small detail but pretty cool all the same. X Force will be keeping the muck out of our eyes as the team’s new eye wear partner, another company getting on board and offering the team custom colours. Last but not least Slik Graphics have been a big part in the image of the team and will continue to make all our team graphics for the frames and forks.”

Full sponsor list for 2016:
Propain, Dirt, Zelvy, X-Fusion, Bliss, Funn, Juice Lubes, Bell, Schwalbe, Giro, XForce, Crank Brothers, Works, Slik and Atlas.


Why don't they just run the Zelvy carbon Sunday?



12/18/2015 9:03am Edited Date/Time 12/18/2015 9:05am
Wonder what the cable is thats zip tied to the underside of the bar in that picture? Maybe data logging.
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12/18/2015 9:25am
Wonder what the cable is thats zip tied to the underside of the bar in that picture? Maybe data logging.
We heard Loic is running gears for 2016.

So maybe it's a gear cable.

No way.
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12/18/2015 10:02am
Wonder what the cable is thats zip tied to the underside of the bar in that picture? Maybe data logging.
We heard Loic is running gears for 2016.

So maybe it's a gear cable.

No way.
new DH front derailleur gears?
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12/18/2015 10:14am
NóiNPO wrote:
Can anybody [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2015/12/18/3035/s1200_Bruni_hallj.jpg[/img] guess the frame based upon this photo?
Can anybody

guess the frame based upon this photo?
dh_nisse wrote:
whats up with the non red bull helmet?
loic is running joystick bars you can see they have been photo-shoped to try and blur the label
12/18/2015 10:29am
Wonder what the cable is thats zip tied to the underside of the bar in that picture? Maybe data logging.
Micro- seat dropper post for tracks like South Africa. hehe
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12/18/2015 11:29am Edited Date/Time 12/18/2015 11:37am


could that be a canyon team car in the reflection? Only company I can think of that would be blue.
12/18/2015 1:43pm
If you look really closly at the van in the background you can see a brand logo.


12/18/2015 1:58pm
I love team rumors season, the true internet stars come out...I have been having my share of fun over on RM, but this is just as good...Keep up the good work folks.
12/18/2015 2:02pm Edited Date/Time 12/18/2015 2:16pm
Wonder what the cable is thats zip tied to the underside of the bar in that picture? Maybe data logging.
We heard Loic is running gears for 2016.

So maybe it's a gear cable.

No way.
Don't be a pleb all your life. Why on a DHer why would he use a front shifter, or have you never taken a look at a DH bike? Its clearly not a shifter cable or a brake cable.
12/18/2015 2:28pm Edited Date/Time 12/18/2015 2:29pm
So MS Mondraker are now two riders less with Innes and Ragot gone, so who will fill the gap/s?
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12/18/2015 2:56pm
We heard Loic is running gears for 2016.

So maybe it's a gear cable.

No way.
Nope, not with those kinks and pinches. It might as well be single speed. And I run my rear shifters on the right.
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12/18/2015 3:19pm
I think he might be on a antidote lifeline.
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12/18/2015 4:06pm
matt? wrote:
[url=http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/team-propain-dirt-zelvy-go.html#ZQlevpEU5Qy9ry4v.97]http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/team-propain-dirt-zelvy-go.html#ZQlevpEU5Qy9ry4v.97[/url] Propain / Dirt is official, with added carbon [img]https://coresites-cdn.factorymedia.com/dirt_new/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/2016-PropainDirtZelvy-Race-Visuals-1-FINAL.jpg[/img]

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