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it was so cool to see that bike out there and for sam to see it as well! lots of cool sundays (resto-mods and stock) in our bike check section - https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/main?keyword=sunday&frame_brands=&so… this feature too from 2018 - https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/The-Sunday-Shreds-Again-A-Legend-Rebo…

We must of missed your memo in the sea2sky. Santa cruz are the best selling ebikes in our store.

Wow I too stand corrected apparently. Surprised this is not a small pull link. Rear triangle has to compress by about 5mm between main pivot and rocker.

There is only one link down by the BB so it's a flexure. In my mind there are two distinct approaches to flex that we see. There's the method where there's one particular point (realistically a short section) on either the chain stay or seat stay that is designed to provide pretty much all the flex or there's the method where you're relying on deflection of essentially a cantilevered beam. This would be the latter.

It probably doesn't have to flex much. Small change in length of the red line in the graphics above through travel.

It is in tension but anything pulling on it even remotely off axis (as will happen here) will want to pull it in line. Honest to god 4-bars are flexing A LOT. Solid rear triangle dual short link rear triangles are flexing, A LOT. It's hard to imagine that little tiny link does everything to prevent any flex of the two sides of the triangle. Especially when you have the two long sides present and are bending them more or less in line with the missing side. Though looking at the pic the short link is at an angle relative...

I stand corrected, did not see that actuating link for the rocker. It isn't a flex stay. It is just a single pivot in that case. Apologies.

No it's not. It's a regular 4-bar linkage and has one degree of freedom. Nothing needs to flex. Link 1 (Green): Frame with main pivot and rocker pivot (concentric with BB .) Link 2 (Blue): Rocker Link Link 3 (Purple): Pull Link Link 4 (Red): Rear Triangle (And then obviously the other side of the rocker with the shock (orange).) The rear triangle (Link 4) remains of constant length and does not need to flex or require compliance. A flex stay has 3 bars and 3 joints; thus 0 DoF per Gruebler's equation... which is why you need something to...

LMAO!!!

Yeah, I was referring specifically to their shock hardware, which I think was made of cheese for a long time until some of the fairly free cheeses hit the bolt market.

They've been flex stay for, what, 15 years? The 2017-2021 model was incredibly popular. If they're failing, nobody's been talking about it...

Historically speaking: fragile.

I would be curious to know how many run coils still in forks on the WCs... Id bet there's a few still

The more I think about this the more I think about the possibility: -the enduro replaces the kenevo as the long travel eeb

Maybe Scott tries to claim that - heating is definitely an issue but 95% of the time the airflow over an "external" shock is enough that they reach an equilibrium and don't normally exceed 40-50 degrees in regular use. Extreme, high speed descents might get a bit hotter but high speed = high air flow so most of the time things balance out. On the dyno though if you run a shock at a speed roughly equivalent to the average energy of a DH run, it will heat at a constant rate and can reach 60 degrees in 3 minutes...

Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know it’s been rumoured that Loic runs a coil fork, so interesting if he’s play with the sub-chamber on a coil fork now too.

Here we go!

ALSO managed to raise another $150 million, but they're not hiding from the fact that it's about much more than a couple of ebikes. They're using the data from the bikes to inform autonomous delivery vehicles for DoorDash, Amazon, etc. The valuation is now over $1B. Found the Fortune article without the paywall: https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/articles/3-500-e-bike-1-125000584…

Well, they do some, especially the Sidluxe, it'll increase about 10 psi riding hard on a hot day, but you set up for it, and the damping isn't really effected. I should add that I don't notice any issues on my gambler, but it's a vivid coil in there, a bit different. I would love to try it with an air shock to see if there is a noticeable firming of the shock.