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yzedf wrote:
From the Yeti Instagram post earlier today.  

From the Yeti Instagram post earlier today. 
 

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They must have a bit too many sb160s in stock they need to get rid off 👀 

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yzedf wrote:
From the Yeti Instagram post earlier today.  

From the Yeti Instagram post earlier today. 
 

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Is enduro still a thing ? 

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How many new enduro bikes have been released in the last year or so?  Sure feels like at least from a product perspective, options are pretty limited these days.  Seems like there’s a lot of 160-170 bikes that are 4-5 years old.  Megatower, Spire, SB160, Slash.  I guess the Firebird, Rallon and Nomad are fresh. 

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jgaube wrote:
How many new enduro bikes have been released in the last year or so?  Sure feels like at least from a product perspective, options are pretty...

How many new enduro bikes have been released in the last year or so?  Sure feels like at least from a product perspective, options are pretty limited these days.  Seems like there’s a lot of 160-170 bikes that are 4-5 years old.  Megatower, Spire, SB160, Slash.  I guess the Firebird, Rallon and Nomad are fresh. 

The minimal changes to the firebird and nomad compared to the generation before shows how we almost converged in enduro bike geometry. Nothing new is needed in that saturated market.

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People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.

I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on the fleet of enduro bikes I've had over the years, but now I do it on an optic built like an enduro bike (but with 140/125 travel).

Same trails, different dynamics. lots of market lost to e-bikes obviously but for the rest, it'll come back around I think.

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AgrAde wrote:
People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on...

People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.

I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on the fleet of enduro bikes I've had over the years, but now I do it on an optic built like an enduro bike (but with 140/125 travel).

Same trails, different dynamics. lots of market lost to e-bikes obviously but for the rest, it'll come back around I think.

I still remember the Evil Following craze… 

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AgrAde wrote:
People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on...

People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.

I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on the fleet of enduro bikes I've had over the years, but now I do it on an optic built like an enduro bike (but with 140/125 travel).

Same trails, different dynamics. lots of market lost to e-bikes obviously but for the rest, it'll come back around I think.

Just like GP forums, I swear.

Where's that new specialized again? Patent for the 170mm design lodged in 2023 iirc.

Enduro is going through a multilayered image crisis, but still the largest segment of bikes within my friend group. 

Meanwhile dual sus single crown overall still seeing plenty of updates. Did rider perception/wants/needs change or should the definition of enduro bike be malleable and rhyme with mall fountain?

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we were talking on our ride last night about avinox, and a couple well placed industry friends was saying that there's a real feeling around that...

we were talking on our ride last night about avinox, and a couple well placed industry friends was saying that there's a real feeling around that they're about to devour the industry and in particular (SRAM/Shimano/Bosch/etc) as a whole given how much engineering resourcing they're putting into the whole thing (Amflow, Avinox, etc). Granted I'm deaf in one year so hearing the fine points of a conversation at speed can be challenging, but they were saying they have a many many hundreds or thousands of engineers working on the motors, batteries, frames, complete bikes and all the brands playing me too and falling over themselves to get a motor in their ebike is only contributing to the effect that will turn around and consume them when Amflow starts releasing more bikes with potential exclusivity on motor tech and can destroy those legacy brands on price. Interesting conversation and perspective, definitely gave me some stuff to ponder. 

 

They might feel that way but you can already see in the ebike site forums a few different things counter to this- first, because the motor is relatively widespread now its lost some of the allure of exclusivity or uniqueness. Second, some first movers to the A2s motor are reporting that its great but not perfect, due to excessive power delivery and energy consumption, motor knocking, etc. Its not the marketing dream that was pitched, but very good like its competitors. Third the bike industry needs to learn consumers hate pregnant downtubes and i think it’ll be fine.


I also don’t feel bad for manufacturers offering zero cross brand or even generation motor compatibility to accelerate product lifecycles. Bad for consumers, generates excessive waste,  and commoditizes frame manufacturers unless you do every motor (e la pivot).

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AgrAde wrote:
People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on...

People also just get bored of one thing. We've been riding enduro bikes for years now.

I ride exactly the same trails as I used to on the fleet of enduro bikes I've had over the years, but now I do it on an optic built like an enduro bike (but with 140/125 travel).

Same trails, different dynamics. lots of market lost to e-bikes obviously but for the rest, it'll come back around I think.

PhilNZ wrote:
Just like GP forums, I swear.Where's that new specialized again? Patent for the 170mm design lodged in 2023 iirc.Enduro is going through a multilayered image crisis...

Just like GP forums, I swear.

Where's that new specialized again? Patent for the 170mm design lodged in 2023 iirc.

Enduro is going through a multilayered image crisis, but still the largest segment of bikes within my friend group. 

Meanwhile dual sus single crown overall still seeing plenty of updates. Did rider perception/wants/needs change or should the definition of enduro bike be malleable and rhyme with mall fountain?

My prediction of super enduro bikes with dual crowns has yet to pay out, but it will. Mark my words.

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IMG 1085
New enduro bike from Nukeproof. Tracker FS. Supposedly 2000GBP as a budget friendly bike.
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hardbash wrote:
Thicker rotors only reduce lever travel (which comes from less of a gap between pads and rotor) till the pads are worn a bit and the...

Thicker rotors only reduce lever travel (which comes from less of a gap between pads and rotor) till the pads are worn a bit and the caliper seals let the pistons slip out a bit to make up for some of the wear. Then, the lever throw is only depending on the seal roll back of the caliper piston seals.

The same effect can be achieved by pumping the brakes and by that advancing the pistons slightly before you insert a thinner rotor.

Saying thicker rotors don’t work because when they’re not thicker any more they’re the same as thinner rotors is a very confusing thesis.

So my qustion is, can tin foil hats be used to thickn rotors?🤣

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tombola33 wrote:
IMG 1085
New enduro bike from Nukeproof. Tracker FS. Supposedly 2000GBP as a budget friendly bike.

Not sure if supposed to be there, but this french shop has it listed in stock
https://cycles-azam.com/velos-de-route/2569-9299-nukeproof-tracker-fs-shimano-deore-m6200-12sp-5400928761727.html#/45-taille-s
2500€ (a tad under 2200£) for M6200 12sp and a Domain

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tombola33 wrote:
IMG 1085
New enduro bike from Nukeproof. Tracker FS. Supposedly 2000GBP as a budget friendly bike.
Goupil wrote:

Not sure if supposed to be there, but this french shop has it listed in stock
https://cycles-azam.com/velos-de-route/2569-9299-nukeproof-tracker-fs-shimano-deore-m6200-12sp-5400928761727.html#/45-taille-s
2500€ (a tad under 2200£) for M6200 12sp and a Domain

Frame looks very similar to the mega, just with a different seat stay bridge and external routing on the mainframe. Great price, excellent platform to upgrade as things wear and need replacing. 

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Mega already had external routing, maybe not at the end, but at least in a generation prior it did. 

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AgrAde wrote:
I feel bad already about cluttering tech rumors with a politics post. Lets leave it here and I'll let someone make/revive a politics thread if they...

I feel bad already about cluttering tech rumors with a politics post. Lets leave it here and I'll let someone make/revive a politics thread if they want to bitch more.

In terms of thermoplastic vs epoxy carbon and the repair of frames, are carbon repairers able to work with thermoplastic? There are two carbon repairers in my city that do excellent work on bikes. All fairly affordable and straightforward. What happens if I approach them with a broken thermoplastic carbon frame? Ignoring theoretical repairability, is it currently practical/possible to fix?

Epoxy adheres really well to epoxy. Some manufacturers mold lugs with "new" epoxy prepreg over a cured tube - which is really similar to repair. So lots of value in considering repair for epoxy. For TP, there simply has not been that many bikes made so little effort in repair specifically for TP bikes. And, it depends on the thermoplastic used. Variations of Nylon have been most used, and there are adhesives that work well with Nylon. Some people are looking into reheating the area, remelting the tube's TP, then "welding" a patch to the repair area. But no one doing that reliably for bikes that I know. So, much like using the highest performing TP composites for bikes, it's possible "on paper" but no one has invested in it yet to sort all the details; that I know of. 

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MauiMax wrote:
I was gonna post this in the economics thread but its locked. I noticed knolly has nothing in stock on their site and then saw this...

I was gonna post this in the economics thread but its locked. I noticed knolly has nothing in stock on their site and then saw this. Anybody have any idea what happened? (wasnt sure if this should have its own thread or not) https://maynards.com/collections/current-auctions/products/knolly-bikes-inc?fbclid=IwY2xjawRxu3dleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFYR3F2VFpLa3VHdERJRDBtc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHo1WQKZVTSv_-Zhkx7v93JSl2O4HdB4uzNg-lgvpg6m6RynxsLYoDaUAjwcs_aem_mUNWnsCxBN09_piLl1vA6A   

heres a link to it as well

May be an image of bicycle and text

Any BC friends want to go grab a frame for me and ship it to Utah? 😁

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Primoz wrote:

Mega already had external routing, maybe not at the end, but at least in a generation prior it did. 

The latest generation of the Mega aluminium frame, released in 2021 has internal routing. The carbon frame also had internal routing on the previous generation from 2017ish, maybe earlier.

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MauiMax wrote:
I was gonna post this in the economics thread but its locked. I noticed knolly has nothing in stock on their site and then saw this...

I was gonna post this in the economics thread but its locked. I noticed knolly has nothing in stock on their site and then saw this. Anybody have any idea what happened? (wasnt sure if this should have its own thread or not) https://maynards.com/collections/current-auctions/products/knolly-bikes-inc?fbclid=IwY2xjawRxu3dleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFYR3F2VFpLa3VHdERJRDBtc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHo1WQKZVTSv_-Zhkx7v93JSl2O4HdB4uzNg-lgvpg6m6RynxsLYoDaUAjwcs_aem_mUNWnsCxBN09_piLl1vA6A   

heres a link to it as well

May be an image of bicycle and text

overbiked wrote:

Any BC friends want to go grab a frame for me and ship it to Utah? 😁

shipping would probably be cheaper with only two frames...

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To me Enduro is the most interesting and all skills encompassing form of mtb racing. It's just that bike racing (other than Tour de France, which I love watching) as a whole is difficult to package and translate to the TV screen for the masses to enjoy.

 

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looks like a new shimano saint click pedal, or even a proper xtr enduro pedal on RR special worldchamps enduro bike:

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yzedf wrote:
From the Yeti Instagram post earlier today.  

From the Yeti Instagram post earlier today. 
 

IMG 7420.jpeg?VersionId=XYJ3p4Ar2P65LSo8u38dOyir
Evil96 wrote:

They must have a bit too many sb160s in stock they need to get rid off 👀 

RR is the most successful enduro rider ever plus the sb160 the most successful enduro bike, why shouldn‘t they celebrate that with some special editions… especially when the successor bike is on the horizon Wink  

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krabo83 wrote:
looks like a new shimano saint click pedal, or even a proper xtr enduro pedal on RR special worldchamps enduro bike:

looks like a new shimano saint click pedal, or even a proper xtr enduro pedal on RR special worldchamps enduro bike:

IMG 4488
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jgaube wrote:
How many new enduro bikes have been released in the last year or so?  Sure feels like at least from a product perspective, options are pretty...

How many new enduro bikes have been released in the last year or so?  Sure feels like at least from a product perspective, options are pretty limited these days.  Seems like there’s a lot of 160-170 bikes that are 4-5 years old.  Megatower, Spire, SB160, Slash.  I guess the Firebird, Rallon and Nomad are fresh. 

Slash came out 2.5 years ago. And last year they released the fuel lx which I could see being the replacement. 

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krabo83 wrote:
RR is the most successful enduro rider ever plus the sb160 the most successful enduro bike, why shouldn‘t they celebrate that with some special editions… especially...

RR is the most successful enduro rider ever plus the sb160 the most successful enduro bike, why shouldn‘t they celebrate that with some special editions… especially when the successor bike is on the horizon Wink  

The greatest, in the same way that Jon Jones is the greatest?  Or Gordon Ryan? 

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The greatest, in the same way that Jon Jones is the greatest?  Or Gordon Ryan? 

never heard of those guys but are they also 4time overall world series champions and a world champion and have the most wins/podiums on the world stage?

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The greatest, in the same way that Jon Jones is the greatest?  Or Gordon Ryan? 

krabo83 wrote:
never heard of those guys but are they also 4time overall world series champions and a world champion and have the most wins/podiums on the world...

never heard of those guys but are they also 4time overall world series champions and a world champion and have the most wins/podiums on the world stage?

I'm thinking it's a PED reference. Some deep cut BJJ/mma lore. 

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Off topic but everyone in BJJ is on juice, it’s like saying Ronnie Coleman isn’t the greatest bodybuilder cuz of PEDs. You have to assume a lot of mtb racers are on PEDs, there’s no way the testing is any good. They can’t even figure out how to route a b line. 

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