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There are already those issues with the wired in version of AXS and Di2 derailleurs on ebikes, it's actually obnoxious to work on them because of it.
An interesting rhetorical question about CVTs and MGUs coming into this space is when do these "bicycles" stop being "bicycles"? Automatic shifting and the removal of manual control seem to me like the point where bicycles are no longer bicycles. We as a community and as an industry should probably draw those lines before we get too much further from where we are now.
I'll stop my pseudo-philosophical ramblings here
Any thoughts on creating a new thread with to sole focus being DJI/Avinox/Amflow + Future (which can be technology and business)?
I know a number of you subscribe to this looking for a broader range of things to be talked about. I'm happy to start one if you guys want.
For ebike motor manufactures to cross over into the gear box makes sense. They look at the $800 derailleur $600 cassette $150 chain $150 chainring and $200 shifter and see a gap in their profits.
I forgot Pinion uses the name Motor-Gearbox-Unit, here I am thinking everyone was talking about Motor-GENERATOR- Units 😅
I would love to see someone make a crack at harvesting energy from braking or the suspension - I figure it could be a small equaliser for heavier riders who would normally have much less battery range available
And @jeff.brines maybe we do need an Avinox thread, I was reading through all this and thought it was the ebike thread.....😬
Do we need a new thread, or just to move this to the already started e-bike thread?
Back on topic though, @jeff.brines, any sense of general optimism at Sea Otter that you picked up on? The vibe I got from pinkbikes most recent podcast is that everyone was in general feeling less doom and gloom on the business side of things. I know the timing of last year was real tough with the Liberation Day tariffs announced just before the show.
Everything is peachy!!
(Except that Engulf & Devour are getting ready to stomp the rest of the industry players into the dirt)
New thread live here pertaining to all things DJI + eebs - have at it!
Yes, the vibe at Sea Otter was way, way more upbeat than the last three. Why? Marketing folks had new stuff to talk about, salespeople had the latest hype to sell (at full price), and product managers/engineers had new projects in the works. And all of these people still had jobs after years of downsizing, right-sizing, streamlining, strategic leveraging, and synergizing. So, yeah, people felt relief, the weather was good, and (for better or worse) everyone has become desensitized to global turmoil, macroeconomic uncertainty, and the daily onslaught of ridiculous political news.
Mind you, that was not intended to be a cynical take. I was glad the vibe was finally not the IRL equivalent of doom-scrolling.
For those of us living in the land of freedumb who bought bikes or components with inflated pricing, when do we expect refund checks once the brands receive their checks from the treasury? /s
(maybe those tariffs stand, it’s all very confusing)
Zero chance of tariff refunds making their way to consumers. Although I have heard of class action suits being brought against Nintendo NA and Costco to try and force that. I'm STILL waiting on my refund from UPS for an illegally collected tariff (& associated brokerage fees) on a part I purchased last August prior to the de minimus exemption expiration - $180 tariff+fees on a $320 part, bought from Germany.
I get confused why Surrons are even a topic in a mountain bike forum. More of a vital MX topic. It’s a motorcycle
Because as the line between mountain bikes and electric motor bikes continues to blur there are potentially considerable knock-on effects especially (IMHO) wth respect to access and what companies are investing or trying to sell.
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