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Vital folks will literally screenshot pinkbike comments and still call it “the other site”

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Is "I heard it on the chairlift" the MTB equivalent of "I overheard some guys talking about it in a bar"?

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Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

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joshmtb wrote:

Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

In our wildest fantasies.

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boozed wrote:

Is "I heard it on the chairlift" the MTB equivalent of "I overheard some guys talking about it in a bar"?

Screen name checks out

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joshmtb wrote:

Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

More like Cannondale engineer. 

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joshmtb wrote:

Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

More like Cannondale engineer. 

we getting square stanchions next!

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joshmtb wrote:

Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

More like Cannondale engineer. 

joshmtb wrote:

we getting square stanchions next!

Return of the Cannondale Moto fork...

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I could see a few benefits - #1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a...

I could see a few benefits - 

#1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a number of brands where the frame mount is too stiff so they get chronic bushing wear/looseness problems. Making a thinner welded part could be difficult, especially maintaining alignment so these bolted parts are probably more forgiving.

#2 eliminates the "bathtub" under the shock that collects water and mud. 

Coming soon.. Aftermarket lower shock mounts for even more or less progression than stock..

Yup! Or a Cascade Components "mullet" shock mount. Will all be cheaper than machining those huge rocker links. 

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10/10/2025 8:14am
I could see a few benefits - #1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a...

I could see a few benefits - 

#1 less rigid shock mount will be able to clamp the hardware better, this has been an issue for a number of brands where the frame mount is too stiff so they get chronic bushing wear/looseness problems. Making a thinner welded part could be difficult, especially maintaining alignment so these bolted parts are probably more forgiving.

#2 eliminates the "bathtub" under the shock that collects water and mud. 

Coming soon.. Aftermarket lower shock mounts for even more or less progression than stock..

daway wrote:

Yup! Or a Cascade Components "mullet" shock mount. Will all be cheaper than machining those huge rocker links. 

And a +50mm chain-stay dropout piece! 

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daway wrote:

Yup! Or a Cascade Components "mullet" shock mount. Will all be cheaper than machining those huge rocker links. 

On April 1st, we'll see the reverse mullet lower shock mount...

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joshmtb wrote:

Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

More like Cannondale engineer. 

joshmtb wrote:

we getting square stanchions next!

No - just one 😇

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joshmtb wrote:

Where does the podium use roller bearings?!

Haha right!

More so just fun seeing chairlift rumor of anything in the works. That’s why I had to screenshot 

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Honestly, roller bearings in a proper, non lefty modern fork with a separate damper and air Spring would be interesting to try. That was always the downfall of the long travel lefty, too many things crammed into such a small space for how much it had to move. 

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The rollers of the T-type chains are larger making the effective chain pitch different from standard, that's what makes them technically incompatible with older cassettes/ chainrings. That...

The rollers of the T-type chains are larger making the effective chain pitch different from standard, that's what makes them technically incompatible with older cassettes/ chainrings. 

That said lots of "incompatible" parts work fine together. Ive been quite happy with my XO1 AXS derailleur and shifter with an XT cassette and chain for a couple of years. 

Sorry, notifications got turned off for this thread for some reason, so I didn't see it. 

Rolled diameter doesn't affect the chain pitch. The pitch is the roller axis to roller axis distance. If you can mount it to the old stuff (after some wear), it's the same pitch. 

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10/11/2025 6:11pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 6:17pm
The rollers of the T-type chains are larger making the effective chain pitch different from standard, that's what makes them technically incompatible with older cassettes/ chainrings. That...

The rollers of the T-type chains are larger making the effective chain pitch different from standard, that's what makes them technically incompatible with older cassettes/ chainrings. 

That said lots of "incompatible" parts work fine together. Ive been quite happy with my XO1 AXS derailleur and shifter with an XT cassette and chain for a couple of years. 

Primoz wrote:
Sorry, notifications got turned off for this thread for some reason, so I didn't see it. Rolled diameter doesn't affect the chain pitch. The pitch is the...

Sorry, notifications got turned off for this thread for some reason, so I didn't see it. 

Rolled diameter doesn't affect the chain pitch. The pitch is the roller axis to roller axis distance. If you can mount it to the old stuff (after some wear), it's the same pitch. 

Roller diameter technically doesn't affect the chain pitch, but it changes the way the chain interacts with the chainring and cassette. That's why I said effective not actual pitch. 

At least in theory a T-type chain on a standard chainring has a higher chance of skipping because of the mismatch of roller diameter and tooth profile, just like an improper chain pitch.

I don't think it has turned out to be a problem in the real world, so it's mostly a technical issue. 

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metadave wrote:
Honestly, roller bearings in a proper, non lefty modern fork with a separate damper and air Spring would be interesting to try. That was always the...

Honestly, roller bearings in a proper, non lefty modern fork with a separate damper and air Spring would be interesting to try. That was always the downfall of the long travel lefty, too many things crammed into such a small space for how much it had to move. 

That's because the lefty was designed back in the olden times when 100mm was long travel.

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what a heater of a finale! i think luke meier-smith leaked the new Troy Lee D5 helmet...Bildschirmfoto 2025-10-12 um 09.38.29.png?VersionId=XcYjnbmkNhj lSp7AyFGPys

at the startgate you could see the difference of the chinbar compared to the D4 and SE5 a bit better, too bad i'm not able to screenshot the stream.

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The rollers of the T-type chains are larger making the effective chain pitch different from standard, that's what makes them technically incompatible with older cassettes/ chainrings. That...

The rollers of the T-type chains are larger making the effective chain pitch different from standard, that's what makes them technically incompatible with older cassettes/ chainrings. 

That said lots of "incompatible" parts work fine together. Ive been quite happy with my XO1 AXS derailleur and shifter with an XT cassette and chain for a couple of years. 

Primoz wrote:
Sorry, notifications got turned off for this thread for some reason, so I didn't see it. Rolled diameter doesn't affect the chain pitch. The pitch is the...

Sorry, notifications got turned off for this thread for some reason, so I didn't see it. 

Rolled diameter doesn't affect the chain pitch. The pitch is the roller axis to roller axis distance. If you can mount it to the old stuff (after some wear), it's the same pitch. 

If you can mount it to the old stuff after some wear the difference must be minuscule!

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10/12/2025 6:32am
krabo83 wrote:
what a heater of a finale! i think luke meier-smith leaked the new Troy Lee D5 helmet...at the startgate you could see the difference of the...

what a heater of a finale! i think luke meier-smith leaked the new Troy Lee D5 helmet...Bildschirmfoto 2025-10-12 um 09.38.29.png?VersionId=XcYjnbmkNhj lSp7AyFGPys

at the startgate you could see the difference of the chinbar compared to the D4 and SE5 a bit better, too bad i'm not able to screenshot the stream.

Pretty sure that's just the standard moto helmet they have been using all season.

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Pretty sure that's just the standard moto helmet they have been using all season.

found a better picture on pinkbike from race day, you're right it's a SE5, the paint scheme threw me off Smile

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Little birdy told me the d5 will have a new thicker foam core all around to help keep up with the higher speeds the riders are goin. I personally use se5 til d5 comes

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GnarShred wrote:
Little birdy told me the d5 will have a new thicker foam core all around to help keep up with the higher speeds the riders are...

Little birdy told me the d5 will have a new thicker foam core all around to help keep up with the higher speeds the riders are goin. I personally use se5 til d5 comes

was thinking something similar. too bad the D5 will probably be heavier and worse ventilated than the current D4 if the foam will be thicker. the jump from D3 to D4 in weight saving and ventilation was astonishing and makes still the best full face lid for me (park and racing on the enduro).

plus i personally think a A4 half shell won't be too far out in the future also.

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No info, just saw on IG

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KYB has been working on it for a while now

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10/12/2025 8:26pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2025 8:30pm

These forks were on display at an event in Europe. They’re 160 mm according to the eMTB YouTube channel that covered the event. Can’t remember more than that off the top of my head. 

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No info, just saw on IG

No info, just saw on IG

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Sooooo ugly but but ahh I want to try it because it’s KYB! 

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Headtube looks exactly like this turd.

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Is there anything at all out there regarding Specialized releasing a new Enduro? It almost feels forgotten about, which is quite strange for what was traditionally one of their biggest models. 

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DylanJM wrote:
Is there anything at all out there regarding Specialized releasing a new Enduro? It almost feels forgotten about, which is quite strange for what was traditionally...

Is there anything at all out there regarding Specialized releasing a new Enduro? It almost feels forgotten about, which is quite strange for what was traditionally one of their biggest models. 

I heard that the back end had too much compliance to be able to go out to the market (tyre buzzing seat stays). Charlie Murray is on the Stumpy and flying, could see them doing a LT, its not clear from his photos whether he's running a modified link, the bolt spacing between the seat stay and the shock yoke is a little further away.

With Trek launching the Fuel+, are spesh going to try and combine the Enduro/KSL/Kenevo to kill a few sku's in light of sales going back to normality ?

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