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10/3/2025 9:36pm
You didn’t get this from me. 

You didn’t get this from me. 
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So black is the new gold now with RAD? 

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10/3/2025 10:21pm
Grip tape was added today. Coming from riding motocross bikes I totally understand his theory. I grip my seat and link all the time.  If it...

Grip tape was added today. Coming from riding motocross bikes I totally understand his theory. I grip my seat and link all the time.  If it helps him get to the next step, I’m here for it!

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I can see it helping a bit.. I'd just find some better hardware.. Also a good spot for some sponsor stickers.. Side plates coming to DH?

This would be easy to 3d print im not sure why they went with such a sketchy solution?

Because they wanted old school, sketchy ass, downhill vibes..

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I can see it helping a bit.. I'd just find some better hardware.. Also a good spot for some sponsor stickers.. Side plates coming to DH?

This would be easy to 3d print im not sure why they went with such a sketchy solution?

Because they wanted old school, sketchy ass, downhill vibes..

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TimBud
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10/3/2025 11:19pm
dolface wrote:

Is it just me or does the rebound knob cover/assembly look long?

High, low and now mid speed adjustment 😅

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10/4/2025 2:42am
Big Bird wrote:
So is that mythical fork a single crown 40? Takes me back to the slalom version of the DHO. I've got a few of those. I...

So is that mythical fork a single crown 40? Takes me back to the slalom version of the DHO. I've got a few of those. I used to know people at Rock Shox when they were still in Santa Cruz. Our team at Another Bike Shop got our OG Boxxers before the sponsored riders did. Sorry Peaty.

chriskief wrote:

New 38

dolface wrote:

Is it just me or does the rebound knob cover/assembly look long?

It looks like the castings are significantly longer at the bottom, which would allow for longer stations and thus better bushing overlap. The damper assembly would then also need to be moved down and slightly out of its usual position.

10/4/2025 4:20am
Grip tape was added today. Coming from riding motocross bikes I totally understand his theory. I grip my seat and link all the time.  If it...

Grip tape was added today. Coming from riding motocross bikes I totally understand his theory. I grip my seat and link all the time.  If it helps him get to the next step, I’m here for it!

IMG 8397

I can see it helping a bit.. I'd just find some better hardware.. Also a good spot for some sponsor stickers.. Side plates coming to DH?

This would be easy to 3d print im not sure why they went with such a sketchy solution?

Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US. He said if they don’t break in the bike bag, they will hold up riding.

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10/4/2025 5:57am

I can see it helping a bit.. I'd just find some better hardware.. Also a good spot for some sponsor stickers.. Side plates coming to DH?

This would be easy to 3d print im not sure why they went with such a sketchy solution?

Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US...

Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US. He said if they don’t break in the bike bag, they will hold up riding.

GT's 1996 Gearbox Concept Bike

Designers in the GT office in 1996Sheldon Cooper. "My brain is better than everybody's!"

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10/4/2025 6:04am
ballz wrote:

My guess is HBS MBAs with 26.2 bumper stickers on their brodozers.

Brodozers and 26.2 stickers are generally not what I'm used to seeing together.. Prius, Camary, Accord and other smaller cars are usually where I see the...

Brodozers and 26.2 stickers are generally not what I'm used to seeing together.. Prius, Camary, Accord and other smaller cars are usually where I see the 26.2 sticker..

Yeah brodozer would have the 5.56 sticker 😂

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10/4/2025 6:41am
Lacanuck24 wrote:
Designers in the GT office in 1996

GT's 1996 Gearbox Concept Bike

Designers in the GT office in 1996Sheldon Cooper. "My brain is better than everybody's!"

That bike is one that had popped into my head..  Put some modern geometry and parts on that and it's an instant revival for GT..

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10/4/2025 6:45am
ballz wrote:

My guess is HBS MBAs with 26.2 bumper stickers on their brodozers.

Brodozers and 26.2 stickers are generally not what I'm used to seeing together.. Prius, Camary, Accord and other smaller cars are usually where I see the...

Brodozers and 26.2 stickers are generally not what I'm used to seeing together.. Prius, Camary, Accord and other smaller cars are usually where I see the 26.2 sticker..

mfoga wrote:

Yeah brodozer would have the 5.56 sticker 😂

True brodozer will have either a dirt bike, DH bike, or enduro bike in the back... But, those last 2 are being replaced by ebikes.. In most of SoCal, there will be an Intense sticker, a FMF sticker, and whatever moto they own sticker.. And, keeping with current trends, the driver will be wearing Pit Vipers..

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10/4/2025 7:34am

This would be easy to 3d print im not sure why they went with such a sketchy solution?

Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US...

Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US. He said if they don’t break in the bike bag, they will hold up riding.

Lacanuck24 wrote:
Designers in the GT office in 1996

GT's 1996 Gearbox Concept Bike

Designers in the GT office in 1996Sheldon Cooper. "My brain is better than everybody's!"

Azonic so ahead of their time  😂s1200 2 Big Hit as of 3 9 03 %281%29 0

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10/4/2025 8:37am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2025 8:46am
Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US...

Reece dad has a metal shop. He said this was the easiest way for him to make a quick version to test before flying to US. He said if they don’t break in the bike bag, they will hold up riding.

Lacanuck24 wrote:
Designers in the GT office in 1996

GT's 1996 Gearbox Concept Bike

Designers in the GT office in 1996Sheldon Cooper. "My brain is better than everybody's!"

w4s wrote:
Azonic so ahead of their time  😂

Azonic so ahead of their time  😂s1200 2 Big Hit as of 3 9 03 %281%29 0

If this shit takes off I may have to quit bikes. ‘Cause I survived the 00s one time already.

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10/4/2025 9:28am
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10/4/2025 9:37am
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In response to that insane faring thing on the AON bike. The mechanic said it was so he could get more feel/grip. WHY WHY WHY does...

In response to that insane faring thing on the AON bike. The mechanic said it was so he could get more feel/grip. WHY WHY WHY does it not have grip tape on it then. 

Why why why does it not have counter sunk screws from either side?

Yeah that was my next thought. I guess all ideas start somewhere but I’m my opinion showing that off in public is a bad look. It would not be too difficult to use some pan head screws at the very least. Also, make it one piece and fold it over with a nice radius so it can’t slice your gooch wide open. 

Idk I’m just a dumb electrician but I feel like I could make a much nicer one with a beer box template some tin snips and the random hardware in my garage.

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10/4/2025 11:57am
frtachi wrote:
Specs of the upcoming Botterocket. Found i a norwegian webstore, link below.https://www.bcsport.no/transition-bikes/01.26.10.55.bot5/transition-bottlerocket-dual-crown-snowstormPriced at 59,999 NOK which is 5140 euro.

Specs of the upcoming Botterocket. Found i a norwegian webstore, link below.
https://www.bcsport.no/transition-bikes/01.26.10.55.bot5/transition-bottlerocket-dual-crown-snowstorm


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Priced at 59,999 NOK which is 5140 euro.

What idiot spec trail casing tires on this

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10/4/2025 12:01pm
nskerb wrote:
In response to that insane faring thing on the AON bike. The mechanic said it was so he could get more feel/grip. WHY WHY WHY does...

In response to that insane faring thing on the AON bike. The mechanic said it was so he could get more feel/grip. WHY WHY WHY does it not have grip tape on it then. 

Grip tape was added today. Coming from riding motocross bikes I totally understand his theory. I grip my seat and link all the time.  If it...

Grip tape was added today. Coming from riding motocross bikes I totally understand his theory. I grip my seat and link all the time.  If it helps him get to the next step, I’m here for it!

IMG 8397

I really wanna like this, but when he was on a stock bike, he was doing much better than this crazy contraption with all these extra things just to barely make it through Q2 twice this year

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10/4/2025 3:51pm
Lacanuck24 wrote:
Designers in the GT office in 1996

GT's 1996 Gearbox Concept Bike

Designers in the GT office in 1996Sheldon Cooper. "My brain is better than everybody's!"

That bike is one that had popped into my head..  Put some modern geometry and parts on that and it's an instant revival for GT..

Also from the 90's and the same guy who later founded Zerode bikes! I think a few brands did something similar? Scott and intense come to mind

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10/5/2025 2:58am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2025 3:04am
You didn’t get this from me. 

You didn’t get this from me. 
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the top fox enduro rider still skipping the podium… can fox spell FAIL?!

And the first versions of their RAD forks have always been non kashima.

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10/5/2025 3:49am

Kashima means nothing on brand new forks IMO, the advantage of kashima is that it stays low friction long-term. So not much of a need for it on development forks I suppose?

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10/5/2025 7:11am
AgrAde wrote:
Kashima means nothing on brand new forks IMO, the advantage of kashima is that it stays low friction long-term. So not much of a need for...

Kashima means nothing on brand new forks IMO, the advantage of kashima is that it stays low friction long-term. So not much of a need for it on development forks I suppose?

Guessing it's just easier to make in black too

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10/5/2025 8:33am

From what i understand, Kashima coating isn't exactly a cheap process, so why use it if they are working on something new internally? 

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10/5/2025 4:18pm

Appears the update to the Canfield lithium and tilt was UDH and adjustable chainstay via replaceable dropout. And pepto colorway IMG 7356.jpeg?VersionId=gFNBzvjjPj DDEbjyxPAPJVLbyUo

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10/5/2025 6:44pm

Saw a couple SRAM sponsored teams running transmission DH cassettes and Xo1 mechanical with non flat top chain at lake placid WC. 

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10/5/2025 7:27pm
ahleic09 wrote:
Appears the update to the Canfield lithium and tilt was UDH and adjustable chainstay via replaceable dropout. And pepto colorway

Appears the update to the Canfield lithium and tilt was UDH and adjustable chainstay via replaceable dropout. And pepto colorway IMG 7356.jpeg?VersionId=gFNBzvjjPj DDEbjyxPAPJVLbyUo

Walked into the Canfield shop a couple weeks back. They are doing lithium / tilt mx flip chips and 8mm I believe chain stay adjustments next year. 

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10/5/2025 7:28pm
roost66 wrote:

Saw a couple SRAM sponsored teams running transmission DH cassettes and Xo1 mechanical with non flat top chain at lake placid WC. 

On Troy’s vlog looked like he was running wireless drivetrain.   Not sure how long that has been the case.  

Jackson had a rad 40 in the race.  Not sure how long he has been running it either.

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10/5/2025 8:19pm
roost66 wrote:

Saw a couple SRAM sponsored teams running transmission DH cassettes and Xo1 mechanical with non flat top chain at lake placid WC. 

Now that is interesting. I thought Transmission cassettes and non-flattop chains were a no-go.

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10/5/2025 10:50pm
roost66 wrote:

Saw a couple SRAM sponsored teams running transmission DH cassettes and Xo1 mechanical with non flat top chain at lake placid WC. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

Now that is interesting. I thought Transmission cassettes and non-flattop chains were a no-go.

I have always wondered....both the chainring and the cassette only touch the inside (not the flat bit) of the chain so I assumed that wouldn't be what affected compatibility, maybe just shift speed. If anything I assumed it was something to do with chain widths that made the compatibility an issue but then the cynic in me says its just an OEM pumping its own stuff. Anyone had any experience on running any old 12spd chain on a transmission setup?

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10/6/2025 12:27am
roost66 wrote:

Saw a couple SRAM sponsored teams running transmission DH cassettes and Xo1 mechanical with non flat top chain at lake placid WC. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

Now that is interesting. I thought Transmission cassettes and non-flattop chains were a no-go.

Hixee wrote:
I have always wondered....both the chainring and the cassette only touch the inside (not the flat bit) of the chain so I assumed that wouldn't be...

I have always wondered....both the chainring and the cassette only touch the inside (not the flat bit) of the chain so I assumed that wouldn't be what affected compatibility, maybe just shift speed. If anything I assumed it was something to do with chain widths that made the compatibility an issue but then the cynic in me says its just an OEM pumping its own stuff. Anyone had any experience on running any old 12spd chain on a transmission setup?

I always assumed the flat top was for strength (i.e. any other differences/incompatibilities are independent of that aspect of the design)

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10/6/2025 1:06am
Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial...

Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial version, but Gravity casing and the graphics are strong hints for it being indeed a radial version.

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Evil96 wrote:
these have been around for a while, but yes when i messaged Schwalbe about it they told me it's not in the works, i still hope...

these have been around for a while, but yes when i messaged Schwalbe about it they told me it's not in the works, i still hope for it tho

schwalbai wrote:

Big Betty Radial pls

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10/6/2025 3:39am
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Now that is interesting. I thought Transmission cassettes and non-flattop chains were a no-go.

Hixee wrote:
I have always wondered....both the chainring and the cassette only touch the inside (not the flat bit) of the chain so I assumed that wouldn't be...

I have always wondered....both the chainring and the cassette only touch the inside (not the flat bit) of the chain so I assumed that wouldn't be what affected compatibility, maybe just shift speed. If anything I assumed it was something to do with chain widths that made the compatibility an issue but then the cynic in me says its just an OEM pumping its own stuff. Anyone had any experience on running any old 12spd chain on a transmission setup?

boozed wrote:

I always assumed the flat top was for strength (i.e. any other differences/incompatibilities are independent of that aspect of the design)

As I have understood it, T-type chains have a slightly larger roller than normal... I wonder if we are seeing a derailleur with UDH mounting combined with existing DH chain and cassette? 

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