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took this from forbidden group Interesting

Unovation? I vote for the SRAM 70/90 mechanical derailleurs. The average rider has no idea that their bent derailleur hanger is ruining their shifting. In terms of performance improvement for the masses, this is one of the best advances ever.

what was not newsworthy (because nobody buys ads or sends free product for "review"): how a small company from freiburg, germany with a few employees beats the big companies in fork and brake performance and quality craftmanship

Isn't Trump trying to make America great again ?

Can I be honest, if I can't just click on one thread and read the entire conversation, I probably won't read the forum at all. I find this thread pulls me in and then when I have more time or I'm curious, I check out other threads. But without this main one, I wouldn't bother visiting vital. Wish it were different but I hope I'm at least helping by giving voice to some other people out there. I enjoy catching up on 6 pages of inane comments to find a nugget of cool rumors. Others might be different.

The "old" Devinci HP Proto

Orbea also uses a concentric pivot at the rear axle, but considering they've already released their Rallon EN/DH in carbon, it would be surprising to see them testing another alloy prototype so soon. Devinci seems more plausible to me.

That pic is from a graphic artist on IG who does MTB related stuff. Pic is a few years old now but definitely not Ai slop

In honor of the 1000th page, we should vote on the best meme of 2025: 👍🏻 for “Crab” 👎🏻 for “6-7” edit: Carcinization is the antithesis of innovation. Maybe we should keep crab talk on the crab talk forum and keep this thread focused on MTB tech rumors and/or innovation.

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I'm just excited for the 2028 Enduro that takes cues from the DH bike.

A water bottle *is* a range extender. And it gives you more range than any battery 😜

That proto frame goes way back. I shot this photo of it in the early fall of 2023. Sorry for poor quality. The obvious heel rub and linkage swap-out (on your more current photo) shows it's seen a lot of hours. The guy riding it started working for a different bike company, so he may have offloaded this one to another industry friend. At the time, I was thinking it was maybe a Diamondback prototype that got canceled/never saw the light of day. He was fairly open with it; it was spotted at local Seattle area watering hole(s), etc.

I think I’m going for my next bike get it repainted a plain color and buy one of those diapers and ride it everywhere so people will think it’s a prototype 😂

How many links is to many? By that i mean, does the extra complication add so much benefit compared to a crab?

More on this, the shape says Yeti but it's not their usual Sixfinity layout? I know from messing with 6-Bars in Linkage that you can get a similar effect from those twin chainstay links as you can from the sliding link too. The shock layout compromised water bottle mounting and the sliding link compromised seatpost insertion, so IF (and it's a big if) this is a Yeti, it seems like they'd be moving away from their old platform for quality of life reasons?

Headtube cable insertion design should help give it away

Not sure why you find it necessary to act like anyone who doesn't know the same things as you is an idiot, but perhaps don't?

Giant will stop manufacturing bicycles and shift all R&D and manufacturing to pickleball paddles.