2025 World Cup Downhill / EDR - Bielsko-Biala, Poland

BGoldstone
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5/16/2025 10:31am
sspomer wrote:

agreed on cold being the reason for a breakage. doesn't seem right.

Cold usually causes shrinkage. 😒 which would tension the chain and snap

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Andy72
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5/16/2025 10:33am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2025 10:36am

I don't see any of the Frameworx folks. I viewed the full list of practice times.

earleb
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5/16/2025 10:35am
sspomer wrote:

agreed on cold being the reason for a breakage. doesn't seem right.

BGoldstone wrote:

Cold usually causes shrinkage. 😒 which would tension the chain and snap

Tensioner would accommodate any change in belt length. 

How long are these in the cold? Trip up the gondola and some time at the top before drop in. Once they start moving there is some friction that will warm it back up some. Not like these things are sitting in sub zero temps for 10 hours before drop in. 

wims
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5/16/2025 10:43am

It's super muddy, perhaps that plays a role in the belt breakage?

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5/16/2025 10:49am
luisgutrod wrote:
I totally disagree with Brunis words in that video of Adding WEIGHT to DH BIKES - PIT BITS, when he says that he wants a...

I totally disagree with Brunis words in that video of Adding WEIGHT to DH BIKES - PIT BITS, when he says that he wants a fast race start with the good stuff and not a mudder/carnage.. he is clearly aligned to spectator friendly . Dont get me wrong, he is a boss, can ride any condition.. but mudder/carnage will make it skill based more than reckless-deathgrip-kamikaze  type of race.. 

mfoga wrote:
Sounds like he doesn’t like not being protected and the fact he could crash in qualifying and he could have a massive hole to climb out...

Sounds like he doesn’t like not being protected and the fact he could crash in qualifying and he could have a massive hole to climb out of for the overall.  To me mud races are fun because anyone can win not the teams who spend the most money having an advantage.

Bruni has had a couple of different interviews where he comes off as very self centered and he doesn't care about the sport as a whole. 

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yzedf
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5/16/2025 10:49am

Considering the temperature range their automotive belts have to deal with I would think these belt failures (if they are that) aren’t temperature related. Rock strikes would be my guess. 

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yzedf
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5/16/2025 10:50am

Bruni has had a couple of different interviews where he comes off as very self centered and he doesn't care about the sport as a whole. 

All racers are self centered… it’s the job. 

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slyfink
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5/16/2025 11:10am

people use belt-driven bikes for winter commuting in north-eastern north america (i.e. in much colder conditions, with slush and snow and ice and salt). belts seem to work just fine in those conditions. sounds to me like they're just looking for an excuse people will buy. 

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ballz
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5/16/2025 11:23am
sspomer wrote:

agreed on cold being the reason for a breakage. doesn't seem right.

BGoldstone wrote:

Cold usually causes shrinkage. 😒 which would tension the chain and snap

Riding belt-less with shrinkage does not sound optimal. 

w4s
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5/16/2025 11:24am
Andy72 wrote:

I don't see any of the Frameworx folks. I viewed the full list of practice times.

Asa has a clip on insta and says he's looking forward to quali's tomorrow but yeah, not much from frameworks is kinda weird, it looks like the only one who did a timed training run was Anna.

5/16/2025 11:26am

Didn't blenki and Taylor Vernon have quite a few problems here last year with their zerodes throwing belts? Maybe was just a mud thing then and it seemed drier today

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5/16/2025 11:29am

Bruni has had a couple of different interviews where he comes off as very self centered and he doesn't care about the sport as a whole. 

yzedf wrote:

All racers are self centered… it’s the job. 

Never meet your heroes 

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5/16/2025 11:38am
sspomer wrote:

haven't confirmed but have heard of two belts broken in practice today. "too cold."

veefour wrote:
Hmm, perhaps not the game changer some were thinking? For sure if true it's a bit of a roller coaster for Gates after the highs at...

Hmm, perhaps not the game changer some were thinking? For sure if true it's a bit of a roller coaster for Gates after the highs at the IXS race in Fort Bill and Hattie's result in Pietra Ligure.

Anyone count how many broken chains/derailleurs occurred during practice as well? 

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Mr.Nally
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5/16/2025 11:47am

The Bruni hate is interesting, time and again he elevates and proves the haters wrong, but no doubt mud is still an achilles heel to a point

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cegg
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5/16/2025 11:48am

Reece the belt goes on the bike not your shoulder!

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5/16/2025 12:17pm

Bruni has had a couple of different interviews where he comes off as very self centered and he doesn't care about the sport as a whole. 

yzedf wrote:

All racers are self centered… it’s the job. 

Never meet your heroes 

Hahaha, but all these doods are super nice. Go to a race and hang out…

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Oz_Taylor
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5/16/2025 12:29pm
Mr.Nally wrote:
The Bruni hate is interesting, time and again he elevates and proves the haters wrong, but no doubt mud is still an achilles heel to a...

The Bruni hate is interesting, time and again he elevates and proves the haters wrong, but no doubt mud is still an achilles heel to a point

Exactly. Seems pretty normal to want to race in predictable conditions where you know you are strongest. Ask any racer in the top 30 if they want a mudder at the opening round and you’ll probably get the same answer. Whilst mud races are fun for the spectators and are somewhat of a leveller, this is a fast track and the chances of a season ending injury would be higher. 

5/16/2025 12:46pm

Bruni hate for not wanting a mudder which introduces a bunch of randomness is unjustified. People are allowed to have their favourite conditions. 

I disagree with him on the protected rider status though, I think that change is a vast improvement. They get 2 chances to get to final now, vs having to do well twice in a row to get through like last year.

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5/16/2025 12:49pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2025 12:49pm

Not that I would ever presume to know better, but the Raw footage of Jackson looks like his bars are a bit wide for his frame. His arms look almost fully extended in normal riding stance, with no extra slack to adjust body position on the bike. Perhaps as a more compact rider that's just what works for him, and clearly he's not struggling to ride the bike, but compared to everyone else he looks to be 'prone' on the bike with minimal room for body english. Just an observation.

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5/16/2025 12:53pm

I don't think I have ever seen riders go that fast on day one. I wonder if the new rules are making them push early to be near top speed for qualifying. The track helps too. 

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5/16/2025 12:54pm
My racing hot take for the hour:I dont like doubling up Enduro and DH on the same weekend.  Too much content to watch.  If they want...

My racing hot take for the hour:
I dont like doubling up Enduro and DH on the same weekend.  Too much content to watch.  If they want to use the same venu do them on back to back weekends.  Then we get more racing spread out throughout the year and multi discipline athletes can race both. 

 

In other news, cold seems like a weird reason for a belt to break.  Especially since its not that cold out and most other applications those things are used for are operating in much worse temp ranges.   

Wait...  there is Enduro content???  

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johann377
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5/16/2025 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2025 1:12pm
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This has got to be the worst looking kit in existence. Who thought that accentuating Goldstone’s hips would look good? Got to be the exact same design as Tahnee’s been wearing

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5/16/2025 1:24pm
johann377 wrote:
This has got to be the worst looking kit in existence. Who thought that accentuating Goldstone’s hips would look good? Got to be the exact same...
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This has got to be the worst looking kit in existence. Who thought that accentuating Goldstone’s hips would look good? Got to be the exact same design as Tahnee’s been wearing

That's hilarious. Reminds me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on it...

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StudBeefpile
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5/16/2025 1:30pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2025 1:31pm
Batts wrote:

Wait...  there is Enduro content???  

Heh well I mean from the riders.  I will say last week had a good amount of it for the first Enduro, but either it gets lost in the noise, the resources are used for DH or it got forgotten about AGAIN. 

 

But even just watching riders content, there is just too much and I have to do actual work at some point today. Also it gives each discipline a chance to shine rather then enduro feeling like an afterthought. 

5/16/2025 1:39pm

Lloris with a suspension locking mechanism and a light on his steerer tube to indicate it.

...give the whole video a watch because it's funny to hear him deal with talking and riding but around 2:45 he says "locking my suspension" and you see his steerer tube cap light up orange.

 

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5/16/2025 1:46pm
My racing hot take for the hour:I dont like doubling up Enduro and DH on the same weekend.  Too much content to watch.  If they want...

My racing hot take for the hour:
I dont like doubling up Enduro and DH on the same weekend.  Too much content to watch.  If they want to use the same venu do them on back to back weekends.  Then we get more racing spread out throughout the year and multi discipline athletes can race both. 

 

In other news, cold seems like a weird reason for a belt to break.  Especially since its not that cold out and most other applications those things are used for are operating in much worse temp ranges.   

Batts wrote:

Wait...  there is Enduro content???  

Yeah, they put out a 30 min practise video. I got half way through it before I remembered that watching enduro (especially practise) isn't all that exciting.

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5/16/2025 1:53pm
yzedf wrote:

All racers are self centered… it’s the job. 

Never meet your heroes 

Hahaha, but all these doods are super nice. Go to a race and hang out…

I meant that as a joke! I've been fortunate enough to meet many racers including some that were my heroes coming up. All overwhelmingly positive.

As for the mudder, I agree with Bruni. I already saw plenty in Supercross this year! 

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PhilNZ
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5/16/2025 2:28pm
wims wrote:

It's super muddy, perhaps that plays a role in the belt breakage?

For what it's worth I've snapped a gates belt on a power stroke immediately after a nose pick. It wasn't a fresh belt by any means but my legs are lacking watts, probably a combination of the compression and crank input stressing it.

I know a gent with thighs the size of my torso on a Zerode, he couldn't stop destroying belts and 12 speed pinions under warranty so ended up getting rid of his bike.

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5/16/2025 2:47pm
Lloris with a suspension locking mechanism and a light on his steerer tube to indicate it....give the whole video a watch because it's funny to hear...

Lloris with a suspension locking mechanism and a light on his steerer tube to indicate it.

...give the whole video a watch because it's funny to hear him deal with talking and riding but around 2:45 he says "locking my suspension" and you see his steerer tube cap light up orange.

 

"suspension locking mechanism" haha it's the same Flight Attendant that's been raced on the world cup since the start of last season and available to the public for a couple years. Did however give him a LED disk on top of his steerer to remind him if he's locked or unlocked since the lights on top of the Flight Attendent fork lockout are too hard to see when fighting for .01's of a second. 

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